100$ or less subs

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  • 01-22-2007, 09:00 AM
    SpankingVanillaice
    100$ or less subs
    I found a Yamaha YST-SW015 sub and I'am looking for the lowest prices subs like $100 or less.
  • 01-22-2007, 09:20 AM
    SpankingVanillaice
    I even found the Jensen powered sub for $67. Model JS650. I would like the lowest priced subs.
  • 01-22-2007, 09:20 AM
    emorphien
    Ohhh Lawwwd, that we would be blessed with another SVI thread so soonly, thank theeeee

    order that 10" sub from parts express... here we go
    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=300-633

    I don't know how that compares to its predecessor, but I recommended the old version to a friend 2 or 3 years ago and he loves it and it still works without trouble.

    or you could get the 8" version:
    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=300-631

    I realize you won't pay attention to either suggestion.
  • 01-22-2007, 09:22 AM
    SpankingVanillaice
    Ok guys this time I am serious I need a sub that is lowest I can get.
  • 01-22-2007, 09:23 AM
    basite
    a real sub, under $100

    you must be kidding, right?
    cheapest you can go is (new) DIY, or used, but really, even then, 100? do you expect that a sub from that 'price class' can even produce sounds lower as the noise your speakers make?

    seriously,
    save on, then come back.

    Greetings,
    Bert.
  • 01-22-2007, 09:26 AM
    emorphien
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
    Ok guys this time I am serious I need a sub that is lowest I can get.

    you have my suggestions. Those are the cheapest subs I have anything close to experience with and can say will actually give you some decent bass without too much of a midbass hump (a lot of cheap subs get excited around 80-120Hz).

    good luck mr takebayashi


    personally, if you have $100 to spend on a sub, you would have been better off (except for extreme low frequencies) to consider combining that with your original speaker budget and end up getting better speakers.
  • 01-22-2007, 09:32 AM
    SpankingVanillaice
    Ok how about this what's the cheapest sub I can get that is a little better than my JBL SUB135?
  • 01-22-2007, 09:38 AM
    SpankingVanillaice
    The speakers I will be using is the JBL HLS410 so I need the cheapest sub I can get for those speakers please.
  • 01-22-2007, 09:39 AM
    basite
    erm, why don't you just use the jbl?
    since you won't accept anything else then jbl,
    so,
    and why buy a new one when you already have one,
    you're going to do the same thing as before, you have something, and you buy the same in a different package.

    try to remember stuff that we tell you...
  • 01-22-2007, 09:42 AM
    SpankingVanillaice
    So if I want to get a sub that is around $100 is my sub alot better than other $100 subs. Remember that I will be adding a sub to my JBL HLS410.
  • 01-22-2007, 09:46 AM
    emorphien
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
    So if I want to get a sub that is around $100 is my sub alot better than other $100 subs. Remember that I will be adding a sub to my JBL HLS410.

    You missed the point. Are you having a problem with your JBL? If not, then don't spend money because you won't be able to gain enough by just spending around $100. If you had at least $200 to spend then I'd say it may be worth it.


    put simply, $100 doesn't buy you enough subwoofer to be worth spending the money when you already have a $100 subwoofer... even if you could buy a new one that was a tiny bit better (which I'm sure you can). Save your money so you can really buy something that is superior to what you have. If you WERE going to buy something at the $100ish price point, the suggestions i made would be your best bet IMO.
  • 01-22-2007, 09:46 AM
    noddin0ff
    I believe emorphien gave you the best advice given your budget. And he made this insightful comment as well.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by emorphien
    I realize you won't pay attention to either suggestion.

  • 01-22-2007, 09:50 AM
    N. Abstentia
    Maybe you should take that $100 and buy a clue?
  • 01-22-2007, 09:52 AM
    markw
    I agree. You would be wise to heed it.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by noddin0ff
    I believe emorphien gave you the best advice given your budget. And he made this insightful comment as well.

    Now, if you persist in whining about this, you'll open yourself to more abuse and ridicule.

    But, then again, some of us don't think you really post here for audio advice anyway.
  • 01-22-2007, 09:54 AM
    basite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spanky
    So if I want to get a sub that is around $100 is my sub alot better than other $100 subs.

    no, it's about the same, $100 subs are crap, and your jbl isn't alot better, it's the same as the $100 subs,

    answer this: Why buy new things that aren't better than the things you have now?

    do you like the jbl sub's sound? if yes, then that's great for you, then don't waste money on buying another one that's the same. if you don't like it, then why did you buy it in the first place?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spanky
    Remember that I will be adding a sub to my JBL HLS410.

    so?

    do you expect me to say: "OoOh, that sub might not be good enough for those speakers"
    well, big suprise, it isn't. both aren't really good,

    you have a sub, you don't need a better one because you don't want to pay for a better one. if you really want to buy a new sub for $100, you'll end up with the same sub, only it looks different, and you still lose money. on crap.

    think before you say.
    Bert.
  • 01-22-2007, 09:55 AM
    SpankingVanillaice
    How about the Yamaha YST-SW216? This sub is $150 and is this sub better than my JBL SUB135?
  • 01-22-2007, 09:58 AM
    emorphien
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
    How about the Yamaha YST-SW216? This sub is $150 and is this sub better than my JBL SUB135?

    die in a fire man... die in a fire.

    That or ESTABLISH a BUDGET. Is it $100 or $150 or $200 or what? And then LISTEN TO US. There are much better sub choices than Yamaha.

    I swear, I wouldn't be here if this wasn't more fun than studying right now :lol:
  • 01-22-2007, 09:59 AM
    SpankingVanillaice
    Here's the specs for this sub.


    Yamaha YST-SW216

    http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/p...9&CTID=5003300
  • 01-22-2007, 10:07 AM
    SpankingVanillaice
    What's the best sub I can get for $150???
  • 01-22-2007, 10:11 AM
    emorphien
    take that $150 and go get yourself some therapy
  • 01-22-2007, 10:16 AM
    SpankingVanillaice
    Ok it seems like you guys are saying that $150 is still not better than my sub so how much do I have to pay to get a little better sub the my JBL SUB135? What's the cheapest sub I can get the is better than my current one?
  • 01-22-2007, 10:23 AM
    basite
    maybe, you still don't get it completely...
    we don't live in a imagined world where the difference between $100 and $150 is enourmous...

    WRONG

    It isn't, going from a $100 sub to a $150 sub isn't going to make any audible difference for you. going from a $100 sub to a $500 sub will.

    think about that.

    keep the jbl, use it, save on (not just $50 on) and buy something new that really makes a difference later,
    LATER, NOT NOW.

    keep them spinning,
    Bert.
  • 01-22-2007, 10:27 AM
    emorphien
    It takes $200+ for a halfway decent subwoofer these days (if you order internet direct). You'd still be better off just spending all this money and the money for your speakers on one single pair of speakers and get rid of the crappy sub entirely.

    In reality, your best course of action would be to save it and learn about audio before spending any more money.
  • 01-22-2007, 10:28 AM
    SpankingVanillaice
    Well in that case will getting a $250 or higher speakers will be better or just get the $250 or higher sub be best?
  • 01-22-2007, 10:28 AM
    basite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
    Ok it seems like you guys are saying that $150 is still not better than my sub so how much do I have to pay to get a little better sub the my JBL SUB135? What's the cheapest sub I can get the is better than my current one?


    now, the "better" you'll get with what you can possebly pay is best explained as this,

    (the "1" and the "1000000" are representing the sound quality)
    "1" being where you are now (crap-phase) and 1000000 is the best of the best (The audio nirvana)

    the difference you'll get buying a new sub in the price range you're saying is this: from 1 to 1,
    really much eh?
    maybe (read very exclusively rare) you'll go from 1 to 1,000000000000000000000001

    and no, that's not something very high,
    it's a waste of money
  • 01-22-2007, 10:29 AM
    emorphien
    were you home schooled Spanking?




    and basite, you're confusing me. Do you think SVI has a chance?
  • 01-22-2007, 10:36 AM
    basite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by emorphien
    and basite, you're confusing me. Do you think SVI has a chance?


    nah, not really (read as: not at all)
    doing what he's doing now, he doesn't have any chance on earth.

    the only moment where he will might have a real chance is when he gets really really rich and that his therapist happens to know alot about audio stuff...
    and even then, chances are quite small because, probably, spanky won't listen at all.

    and the getting rich part is even more difficult, it's like winning the lottery, it never happens to you.:cornut:

    (by which I mean that he absolutely doesn't have any chances at all)

    Keep them spinning,
    Bert.
  • 01-22-2007, 10:38 AM
    emorphien
    are we on the same page, I should have clarified that I was wondering if you think he has a chance of understanding you :)
  • 01-22-2007, 10:40 AM
    noddin0ff
    My opinion...if you spend more than $200 you'll have a sub that will outclass your speakers. What you need to ask yourself is do you want thumping base or good audio reproduction.

    If you want bass, I'd go to the PartsExpress Subwoofer page and get the best sub you can afford.

    This one looks pretty reasonable for the price.

    If you really really care to get into a good sub the cheapest you can go for a serious sub (i.e. one that actually starts to be musical and make real bass) the best you can do new is a kit like this one. But now you're over $300.

    If you actually cared about the quality of the music you listen to you would save all your money for a while until you are in the $300 range. Then you'd look into better bookshelf speakers...

    But despite your protestations to the contrary, if you actually cared you would listen to the advice given.
  • 01-22-2007, 10:54 AM
    basite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by emorphien
    are we on the same page, I should have clarified that I was wondering if you think he has a chance of understanding you :)


    ooh, sorry, didn't get it,

    and no, there is no chance at all that SVI will understand my replies, but who cares?


    Keep them spinning,
    Bert.
  • 01-22-2007, 11:23 AM
    blackraven
    Save your money and buy new speakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
    But if you insist on a new sub check out the Mirage Omni S8. Its a very nice sounding sub for the money.
  • 01-22-2007, 11:25 AM
    SpankingVanillaice
    Well I was asking is that if I get a sub that is at least $250 will it be better than my sub? Or do you guys think that getting a new pair of speakers for $250 will be better? But wait you guys told me that the sub in parts express is good even its $150. I can't remember but I think it was a 10in or 12in sub.
  • 01-22-2007, 11:30 AM
    SpankingVanillaice
    So the Mirage Omni S8 is the upgraded version of my JBL SUB135? Is there any good subs for $250?
  • 01-22-2007, 11:39 AM
    N. Abstentia
    Did your mother have any children that lived?
  • 01-22-2007, 11:41 AM
    markw
    I can't really believe you're really this clueless
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
    So the Mirage Omni S8 is the upgraded version of my JBL SUB135? Is there any good subs for $250?

    ...and unable to comprehend what's being said.

    You're just confirming my belief that you just want to play with strangers since playing with yourself is getting monotonous.
  • 01-22-2007, 11:57 AM
    anamorphic96
    Yes the Mirage Omni S8 is far superior to the JBL you have. Get the Mirage if you can.
  • 01-22-2007, 12:01 PM
    noddin0ff
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
    But wait you guys told me that the sub in parts express is good even its $150. I can't remember but I think it was a 10in or 12in sub.

    No, we suggested that it was likely the best you could do if you were limited to $150. That does not mean it is 'good'. In the $150 range it's pretty good. Compared to a good $300 sub it likely sucks.

    At least you're talking $250 range now. You're in a range where you might hear real improvements in quality. The more you save the more noticible the improvement can be.

    $250 will buy you better speakers or better sub. Which would you rather have? Since you've claimed to hear above 20kHz (or so I remember) you might prefer better speakers. But if you'd rather annoy your parents, go for the sub.

    Think about your audio goals in real definable terms. Not vague terms like 'better' or 'best'. You could even try describing the kind of music you listen to. If you listen to harps and chamber music, you don't need a sub as a priority. If you listen to vocals primarily you don't need a sub. Most instruments don't really play below 40Hz. If you want more bang and thump and that's your priority then you want a sub. If you want the magazine cut outs of your ideal boys on the wall to shake and shimmy, then get an oscillating room fan.

    This oughta be fun...
  • 01-22-2007, 12:09 PM
    anamorphic96
    You know what. I have an Energy S8.3 which is the same sub as the Mirage. I will sell it to you with all shipping paid for 250. The sub is in pristine condition and has not been used for more than a few hours.

    http://www.energy-speakers.com/v2/pr...page.php?id=40
  • 01-22-2007, 12:52 PM
    emorphien
    Did you never buy new speakers like you wanted to in your other thread?
  • 01-22-2007, 01:44 PM
    Florian
    Dear Moderating team and site owner. Can we please bann this spammer? There is not one single thread that shows any credibility or intelligence. This is Spam!