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    You play. I listen. Enochrome's Avatar
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    Splitting Hairs or Big Divide

    So I have settled on the fact that my place is too small for electrostatics.

    I am now looking at a pair of Thiel CS1.5 or a pair of Vandersteen 2C
    What am I sacrificing if I take one over the other?

    I think I can get the Thiel for $350 and the 2C's for $300.

    Also, I was considering a nostaglia buy of Rectilinear lll high boys for $80. Is that a waste?

    I have never heard any of these speakers.

    Thanks

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    Both are good speakers and you cant go wrong with either one. Just but what sounds best. Those are great prices if they are in good condition. I have always been a fan of Theils, very detailed neutral sound. However I cant say that I have every listened to a Vandersteen speaker.
    Pass Labs X250 amp, BAT Vk-51se Preamp,
    Thorens TD-145 TT, Bellari phono preamp, Nagaoka MP-200 Cartridge
    Magnepan QR1.6 speakers
    Luxman DA-06 DAC
    Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid Tube DAC
    Dual Martin Logan Original Dynamo Subs
    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
    Adcom GFR 700 AVR
    Cables- Cardas, Silnote, BJC
    Velodyne CHT 8 sub

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    How would you compare the Thiel sound to your MMG's?

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    Forum Regular blackraven's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enochrome View Post
    How would you compare the Thiel sound to your MMG's?
    They have totally different sounds. Think out side the box with Maggies. You have to hear a planar speaker and hear the difference yourself. The sound is not for every one. They produce a wall of sound. The Theils will have better bass and probably better detail. Midrange will be better with the MMG's. You will have small sweet spot with the MMG's as well as they tend to beam some. If you listen to a lot of vocal or acoustical music the MMG's age great.

    Both speakers need good amplification 100wpc for the Maggies (high current and at least 100wpc if you like to listen at loud volumes and want to get the best dynamics) and MMG's will reveal weaknesses in your sytem. The Theils are not very efficient ( I think that they are between 83 and 85 dB sensitivity) and will need a good amp as well. Speaker placement is an issue with Maggies, they need to be about 2.5-3 feet from the wall. They will produce more bass if placed near the corners of the room.

    My favorite speakers are Maggies, Salks, Theils and the upper level PSB's.


    This review may help-

    SoundStage! Equipment Review - Thiel CS1.5 Loudspeakers (8/1999)
    Pass Labs X250 amp, BAT Vk-51se Preamp,
    Thorens TD-145 TT, Bellari phono preamp, Nagaoka MP-200 Cartridge
    Magnepan QR1.6 speakers
    Luxman DA-06 DAC
    Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid Tube DAC
    Dual Martin Logan Original Dynamo Subs
    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
    Adcom GFR 700 AVR
    Cables- Cardas, Silnote, BJC
    Velodyne CHT 8 sub

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    wow. those are not cheap speakers.

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