What I have been using

[SpankingVanillaice]

I have been using these speakers and amp for a while and they sound good. I have a pair of JBL Balcony speakers and a Insignia NS-R5101 Home Theater Receiver. The receiver goes upto 500 watts and the speakers goes upto 100 watts and 200 watts peak power. I got a very good deal on the speakers and the receiver. I got the receiver for $100 and normaly they cost close to $200 and the speakers I got them for $56 and normaly they cost $180. I got them both at Best Buy.

[Ajani]

Congratulations... for $156, I doubt you could have done much better...

[GMichael]

Hey. I have a pair of the JBL E10's as well as a couple pair of the E20's. All use the same drivers as the new Venue series you have. They sound surprisingly well for the cost. Congrats Spanky. Enjoy them.

[SpankingVanillaice]

I did look up the E10 and I see that they look really alike only difference is that mine can go low as 65hz and the E10 goes only down to 75hz. Also I see that the bass ports are on the front on the E10 and mine is on top. Other than that they look like the same speakers.

[SpankingVanillaice]

Can you use speakers like the Balcony as mains for stereo listening? Or are they only suppose to be used as surround sound speakers? I know that if I had a sub it would have better low end but I was wondering if you can use them without a sub and listen them as mains like how I' am using them now.

[GMichael]

I did look up the E10 and I see that they look really alike only difference is that mine can go low as 65hz and the E10 goes only down to 75hz. Also I see that the bass ports are on the front on the E10 and mine is on top. Other than that they look like the same speakers.

Yes, it is the porting that makes the difference. The E20's have them in the rear and go lower than the E10's as well.

[SpankingVanillaice]

One thing I' am upset about is that JBL doesn't make anyone affordable speakers like the Venue Series. They now added that ultra high drivers and makes them cost twice as much than the Venue Series did. I hope that JBL will soon start making the affordable series again and keep them.

[GMichael]

They will come out with a new line. This is why you were able to get the Venues at such a low price. They list for much more than you paid. I got a great deal on my E20's ($40 a pair) because the Venues were coming out and they were making room for them on shelves. Before that they were selling for over $100 and listed at almost $300/pr.

[SpankingVanillaice]

Well the new line is called the ES series and thay are the replacement of the Venue Series and the ES Series costs twice as much. They just tried to make the speakers to go higher than 20kHz which I think is pointless since humans can only hear upto 20kHz and me I can barely hear 18kHz. I can forsure hear 17,500hz clearly.



Anyways how I know that the ES series is the replacement is since I called JBL and asked them.

[SpankingVanillaice]

I did just find out one other thing that the Venue Series didn't have is neodymium-magnet motor structure tweeters. The ES series has 3/4" titanium-laminate dome with neodymium-magnet motor structure. Well I think that the Venue Series doesn't have it but it might have neodymium magnets for the tweeters. I just don't see anywhere on the site where it tells that the Venus Series has neodymium tweeters.

[GMichael]

I see the ES20's available for under $200 already. When the next line comes out, these will drop too. My E20's were going for about the same price when they first came out. So were the Venues.

[SpankingVanillaice]

Hmmm interesting the last time I saw them they were like twice as much. Maybe the prices are going down that's good. The last time I saw the prices was a year agao.

[SpankingVanillaice]

Anyways do you guys think that I will need to upgrade to the ES10 just because it has that ultrahigh frequency driver? I never heard these speakers before but if someone has let me know what you think about them. I can't afford the ES10 now but maybe in few years or less I can get one but that's if it's really worth it. Of cource then I can just sell my Balcony when I do get the ES10. I just want to know the sound difference in the two speakers first.



Thank You

[GMichael]

I haven't heard the ES models yet. My guess is that they would only be an incremental increase in quality, if any at all. You'd be better off hanging on to your Venues while you save for a bigger step up. Do you get a chance to go to any audio stores? Maybe you should listen to as many speakers as possible before you lay out anymore cash.

[SpankingVanillaice]

I was wondering about this but which speaker is better? The Balcony that I have or the Monitor? I was wondering that if I should return the Balcony and get the Monitor instead since it's normal shaped. I just think the Balcony looks kinda weird since it's not shaped normal like most speakers.

[SpankingVanillaice]

I think I probley should get the Monitor instead since it looks like a normal speaker so I probley will return the Balcony.

[JSE]

The general theme of every SVI thread....

I got these speakers
Are these other speakers better?
Should I get the other speakers?
I think I'get the other speakers.
I got the other speakers.
Are these new other speakers better?
Should I get these new other speakers?
I think I'll get these new other speakers.
and on
and on
and on
and on................................................ ..............

[GMichael]

The general theme of every SVI thread....

I got these speakers
Are these other speakers better?
Should I get the other speakers?
I think I'get the other speakers.
I got the other speakers.
Are these new other speakers better?
Should I get these new other speakers?
I think I'll get these new other speakers.
and on
and on
and on
and on................................................ ..............

It's good to have a hobby.

[SpankingVanillaice]

It's good to have a hobby.

That is correct my big hobby is into speakers. I have been into speakers since I was a little boy but back then I didn't know much about speakers. I also am into computers too since I can build, repair and install Windows. But me getting into computers was after the speakers since when I was little my parents didn't own any computers.

[basite]

That is correct my big hobby is into speakers. I have been into speakers since I was a little boy but back then I didn't know much about speakers. I also am into computers too since I can build, repair and install Windows. But me getting into computers was after the speakers since when I was little my parents didn't own any computers.

THAT'S GREAT svi...

now, did you know you could actually learn about your hobby???

you made a big step forward by stepping of buying virtually the same pc speaker every week. now you just gotta learn that before you actually buy something, remember that you should listen to the speakers, or amps, or whatever, and then buy it, so you don't end up buying new speakers again every week.


Keep them spinning,
Bert.

[Ajani]

That is correct my big hobby is into speakers. I have been into speakers since I was a little boy but back then I didn't know much about speakers. I also am into computers too since I can build, repair and install Windows. But me getting into computers was after the speakers since when I was little my parents didn't own any computers.

Here's a serious suggestion for you:

Since you really love changing speakers all the time, and just playing around with them in general... then why not try building your own? Given you obsession with minor spec details on speakers, you might really enjoy a never ending DIY speaker project...

[Florian]

wow....... 156$ for two seakers? And you are upset about this price because it is not affordable?

In production that ting aint even worth 5 bucks.... let the poor sales person, transport logistics, goverment, quality control etc.. make a living too. Will ya?

[Florian]

That is correct my big hobby is into speakers. I have been into speakers since I was a little boy but back then I didn't know much about speakers. I also am into computers too since I can build, repair and install Windows. But me getting into computers was after the speakers since when I was little my parents didn't own any computers.

Update of 2008.

You still dont know anything about speakers.
You still dont know anything about computers.
You still are not into anything except beeing mentaly retarded. <-- No discriminartion, just a fact.

[SpankingVanillaice]

Today I just got the JBL Monitor and they sound better I think since it has a bigger woofer. Plus they go upto 125 watts.

[Florian]

Mentally ........ challanged! Like i said!