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    For those who like to see a bit different technology

    Well i think that this might be interesting. There are box speakers, planar speakers, electrostatics etc....

    These are my Scintilla's and you can see how they are build and it might be interesting to some.

    Thsese were made in 82 and have been completely rebuild.







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    Different Technology

    Flo Nice pick of inside view .Before seeing the inside I really tought they were room divider.Are they still built like this or are they in the digital age ?Pat.P

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT.P
    Flo Nice pick of inside view .Before seeing the inside I really tought they were room divider.Are they still built like this or are they in the digital age ?Pat.P
    Well Apogee unfortunatly had to close in the mid 90's. All Apogee speakers were build like this (in general) and used the same ribbons. The old ribbons had a fault tollerance of 3% which was quite high (ribbons were handcut), the new Ribbons you see there have a fault tollerance of 0.3% which makes for impecable channel matching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    Well i think that this might be interesting. There are box speakers, planar speakers, electrostatics etc....

    These are my Scintilla's and you can see how they are build and it might be interesting to some.

    Thsese were made in 82 and have been completely rebuild.


    The insides are made of 3 little red "X"s???

    jk, I'm not able to see the pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_Klim
    The insides are made of 3 little red "X"s???

    jk, I'm not able to see the pics.
    Sorry Peter i screwed up the webserver. Should work now
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    Thanks for the pics. I hope you enjoy them as much as you anticipate.
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    Cool, thanks for the fix.

    1 - What are the ribbons actually made of? Some sort of metal?

    2- Is that your actual Apogee?

    BTW, cool looking Palm trees

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_Klim
    Cool, thanks for the fix.

    1 - What are the ribbons actually made of? Some sort of metal?

    2- Is that your actual Apogee?

    BTW, cool looking Palm trees
    1A.The ribbons are made out of Aluminum and Kapton. 1/3 the thickness of your hair and only helo at the top and bottom. The swing free in the magnetic field.

    2A. That is my actuall Apogee at my friends house during the rebuild.

    -Flo

    PS: Palm trees help me relax ;-)
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    Way cool..

    Very large and impressive. Do they sound as good as they look? How do they reproduce the base?
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    Apogee

    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    Well Apogee unfortunatly had to close in the mid 90's. All Apogee speakers were build like this (in general) and used the same ribbons. The old ribbons had a fault tollerance of 3% which was quite high (ribbons were handcut), the new Ribbons you see there have a fault tollerance of 0.3% which makes for impecable channel matching.

    -Flo
    Flo Thought I would add the site for others see other Apogee www.apogeespeakers.com/ Pat.P

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Very large and impressive. Do they sound as good as they look? How do they reproduce the base?
    They sound better than they look ;-)

    The bass is absolutly amazing and goes down to 22Hz in my room. Well and they are very uncolored, fast, details over details and a perfect integration as far as i can hear ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT.P
    Flo Thought I would add the site for others see other Apogee www.apogeespeakers.com/ Pat.P
    Good site, but the specs are not all right and the prices are wrong.

    -Flo

    PS: Good read tough
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    Oops,

    I am glad to hear that they go down to 22htz. Must sound great. But I meant to say, how do they mechanicly create the base? How are they moving the air?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    I am glad to hear that they go down to 22htz. Must sound great. But I meant to say, how do they mechanicly create the base? How are they moving the air?
    Well these speakers actually MOVE air. The foil is the driver and the magnetic field moves the whole membrane. They have a surface area of 12in by 53in = 636square inches for the bass alone !! per side. Then you have the midrange ribbon and the 4 tweeter ribbons per side.

    :-)
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    Sounds like they'll knock you over

    if you stand too close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    if you stand too close.
    At 242lbs a piece, they sure will.
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    Different technology

    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    Good site, but the specs are not all right and the prices are wrong.

    -Flo

    PS: Good read tough
    Flo thats weird saind updated April 18/2005.I aso check out this site www.gilmoreaudio.com Full range ,planar,line source dipoles .Very nice looking speaker.Pat.P

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    Those do look nice. I wonder how the integration is tough. The only over speakers i know that are true fullrange ribbons are Perigee and Analasys Audio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    Those do look nice. I wonder how the integration is tough. The only over speakers i know that are true fullrange ribbons are Perigee and Analasys Audio.
    Flo I would like to listen to these ,fat chance I live in Canada. Flo I was trying to find info on cross-over and landed on this site www.lenardaudio.com and went to Education.He talks about alot of different issue on speaker ect ect.Pat.P

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