What do you think of the Eagles/Wal-Mart relationship?

I know the bottom line must have money in it for the Eagles but can Wal-mart sell through more titles than all other distributors. I'd love to see the details of this contract. The exclusive clause is only for a year. REO did the same thing and was doing little promo gigs in the stores, very sad. I never expected the Eagles to go this route, hopefully they won't do in store promos. The anticipation of an Eagles album may be big enough for this to help Wal-Mart but I fail to see what could be in it for the Eagles other than money. For most, I guess that's enough.

I don't shop at Wal-Mart, eat at McDonald's, or watch prime time TV. Am I on the verge of losing my citizenship?

I think they richly deserve each other.

I don't.

I think that what they do behind closed doors is none of my business.

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Originally Posted by Slosh

I don't shop at Wal-Mart, eat at McDonald's, or watch prime time TV. Am I on the verge of losing my citizenship?

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No, but your Eagles fan club membership is on shakey ground.

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Originally Posted by Mr Peabody

I know the bottom line must have money in it for the Eagles but can Wal-mart sell through more titles than all other distributors. I'd love to see the details of this contract. The exclusive clause is only for a year. REO did the same thing and was doing little promo gigs in the stores, very sad. I never expected the Eagles to go this route, hopefully they won't do in store promos. The anticipation of an Eagles album may be big enough for this to help Wal-Mart but I fail to see what could be in it for the Eagles other than money. For most, I guess that's enough.

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I guess a band has the right to sell their music any way that they want. But personally, I don't like this new trend of exclusive sales. As a consumer, I should have a choice of retailers to make my purchases from. Whether or not I would purchase this CD is unknown since I haven't heard anything from it...it's unlikely. But it's even more unlikely now since I never step foot in Wal-mart.

I like Wal-Mart better than the Eagles.

I think the Eagles should be greeters at WalMart rather than put out CDs.

I know how this will end.

Wal-Mart will withhold some of the Eagles royalties, demand to renegotiate the terms of the deal and put the squeeze on the Eagles.

I'll be more interested when the Eagles start playing at Wal-Marts.

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Originally Posted by kexodusc

I know how this will end.

Wal-Mart will withhold some of the Eagles royalties, demand to renegotiate the terms of the deal and put the squeeze on the Eagles.

I'll be more interested when the Eagles start playing at Wal-Marts.

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When are they coming to PA/NY/NJ?

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Originally Posted by kexodusc

I know how this will end.

Wal-Mart will withhold some of the Eagles royalties, demand to renegotiate the terms of the deal and put the squeeze on the Eagles.

I'll be more interested when the Eagles start playing at Wal-Marts.

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You're referring to Donovan MacNabb and the Philadelphia Eagles, right? I heard WM is organizing a team of cartpushers that shows a lot of promise and is confident in their ability to, at the least, beat the hapless Eagles...


<wink wink> you out there Swishy?

I don't like it - Wal-Mart will edit out all the bad words and sexual references.

Yeah, those old Eagles songs wouldn't be the same without the sex, violence and colorful language.

I sense some Eagle negativity here.....

So Wal-Mart is in Canada? I wonder if it differs from those here.

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Originally Posted by Mr Peabody

I sense some Eagle negativity here.....

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Myself, I don't get it. OK, so they're terribly over exposed, but so what. Either ya listen or ya don't.

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Originally Posted by Mr Peabody

So Wal-Mart is in Canada? I wonder if it differs from those here.

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Wal-Mart is all over Canada. It's the same cookie cutter store here as in the US. The only difference that I can see is that they can't sell guns or ammo here, which I believe they can south of the border.

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Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn

Wal-Mart is all over Canada. It's the same cookie cutter store here as in the US. The only difference that I can see is that they can't sell guns or ammo here, which I believe they can south of the border.

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Actually the one down here that I poke my head in from time to time stopped selling guns which I thought was kinda cool. I don't know if this is indicative of overall policy or, more probably, policy concerning city stores. Nothing good comes from selling shotguns and 30-06's in the hood.

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Originally Posted by bobsticks

Nothing good comes from selling shotguns and 30-06's in the hood.

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Nope. As a matter of fact, they should put a hault to selling illicit grugs in the parking lot too.

Ban drugs, ban guns, and while we're at it, ban alcohol.

Why not? It worked before...

Dang it! My sarcasm detector is still in the shop.

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Originally Posted by 3-LockBox

Nope. As a matter of fact, they should put a hault to selling illicit grugs in the parking lot too.

Ban drugs, ban guns, and while we're at it, ban alcohol.

Why not? It worked before...

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Well, until you've walked a mile...

Don't for a second think that I'm recommending a state or federal law or even involvement here. I'm talking about a responsible decision made unilaterally by a retailer based in the needs of it's community. There are still plenty of firearms available in areas outside the beltway where y'know actual hunting (of animals) oocurs.

First, the 30-06 is illegal to fire in the state of Indiana. Period. This is not exactly the most progressive state, we like our NASCAR and hunting so it would then seem that this decision was made with some deliberation. That's because the 06 is a bigass round that will go through a deer and over a cornfield and into the cute farmer's daughter that we all want to plow. This is exacerbated by the fact that there's not one darn hill in the entire state. Why sell a firearm that can't even be legally fired within the state lines?

Also, we're talking about Wal-Mart here. How good do you think the record keeping system is? Not to mention the fact that at some point in every gun transaction is the necessity for a human being to make a decision based on whether the prospective buyer is actually the person on the ID. Do we really want the kid working the midnight shift that couldn't get the higher paying job at the Department of Motor Vehicles making that determination?

I'm not talking about "banning" anything. I suspect that with two-hundred-and-twenty-million guns already in circulation that the ships already sailed on that one, but we can at least be responsible with who gets the new ones...and I think WM did that. Good for them.

And btw, I'm all for as many illicit grugs(sic) as you can get your hands on. Just make sure to share the wealth...

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Originally Posted by Mr Peabody

I know the bottom line must have money in it for the Eagles but can Wal-mart sell through more titles than all other distributors.

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Here'e what I think. I paid $11.99 for a two-disk CD. Gotta love that for value. I hope Wal-Mart does more of these deals.

On the other hand, I had to pay 15.99 for the new Joni Mitchell CD at HMV, which was a buck cheaper than buying it at Starbucks, even though it was released on Starbuck's Hear Music label. Starbuck's went for wider distribution. Given that the Eagles CD appears to be self-published, it's a win-win-win for eveybody. I get the CD at a great price, the Eagles probably make more money even if they sell fewer CDs, and Wal-Mart has a reason to get new shoppers into the store.

Of course, the new business model in the music business follows the thinking that few of the big bands makes money selling CDs. They make money touring. Expect a big summer Eagles tour with Wal-Mart support. I love it.

By the way, thanks for the post. I wouldn't have know that the Eagles had a new album out if you hadn't posted.

Barry, what did you think of the album? I haven't bought it yet. I really hate to buy music I haven't at least heard something from.

I've only listened to the first disk, and had it on as background music, so I haven't given it a good listen.

The band will never produce another Hotel California, so it will never meet that standard. But I was impressed by what I heard in that the band seemed to be making an effort to produce a real album, not just whipping something together. A two CD set today would be the equivalent of releasing either a three or four album set of new material on vinyl. Nobody did that back in 1976.

I'll give it a listen this week and post a review. But on first listen, there was enough there to justify the purchase, even if you whiddled it down to a 60 minute CDR of the best.

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Originally Posted by bobsticks

First, the 30-06 is illegal to fire in the state of Indiana. Period.

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Really?!? I did not know that. 30-06 is like required for Michigan citizenship. The 30-06 is the round that shocks the uninitiated and illicits a bunch of false bravado from shooters. I still remember my first time with a 30-06 on the range. My buddy's grandpa gave him the rifle. We were both 13 years old. Both of us were very experienced shooters even at that age. We just sat there at the bench starring in awe at the size of the round. After we each took a shot, we just starred at the rifle. Each shot was like a barely controlled catastrophe and was impossible without hearing protection.

I have never understood how the 30-06 M-1 Garrand and M-14 were standard issue in the Army. How does a 17 or 18 year old kid handle that? It's like giving them all Ferraris.

I read that the Marine sniper corp in Bahgdad got special permission to redeploy the M-14 because of its power and reliability in the desert sands.

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Originally Posted by Mr Peabody

REO did the same thing and was doing little promo gigs in the stores, very sad.

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Back on topic. I am an unappologetic Speedwagon fan, I don't care what anybody says. :cornut: The band is actually really humble and good natured about their past and the path of their career. After the band broke up and reformed without Gary Richrath, Kevin Cronin was very honest about having to start over from scratch playing dives with groups of 50 people. On top of that they were doing it in a grunge era when they were practically a punch line. But, funny thing happened when they started inexplicably selling out major amphitheaters and halls. So a schlocky match with Wal-mart isn't surprising. For a band that was unfairly (IMHO) labled as Corporate Rock in the 70s and 80s, it is fitting that they were sponsored by Wal-Mart. If you can't beat them, might as well join them. There are a ton of old bands like that that are quietly playing to 20,000 people 3 nights a week during the summer with very little attention paid by the mainstream industry. Everyone from Huey Lewis to Poison. And frankly, some of those shows are really top notch.