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    Quote Originally Posted by 3-LockBox
    Is that why you include an Australian band on a Canadian list?

    You card, you...
    You are thinking of Men at Work, Men without Hats are indeed a Canadian band, Montreal i think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by musicman1999
    You are thinking of Men at Work, Men without Hats are indeed a Canadian band, Montreal i think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by audiobill
    I'd also include up-and-coming bands such as The Constantines
    Gotta agree with you there. I was just listening to Shine a Light last week, and thinking that it has aged incredibly well compared to most other albums that came out around the same time (2004, I want to say?). I really played the shit out of it when it was new but was almost stunned to come back to it and realize that it was such a tour de force. Just incredibly soulful, lyrically complex, clamorous yet hooky... rarely have I heard such a moving, sustained paeon to youth & the living city (I would guess that it's Toronto in this case? But I don't know where they're from). I picked up Tournament of Hearts a few years later and was enamored with it as well at the time although it hasn't held up as well (not as thematically cohesive, and there are a few real clunkers on it too). Have they done anything since then?

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    As a proud Canadian ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr MidFi
    Well, it's not really the list I would have picked...but here it is.

    http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/268022
    I actually own ... umm ... two of these albums: Mitchell/Blue & Cohen/Songs. Both bought back in the day on vinyl.

    Well, maybe three if I can include "Best of the Band".

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    Lightfoot

    Quote Originally Posted by RoyY51
    I'm also a bit taken aback by the exclusion of Gordon Lightfoot. After all, wasn't he the first Canadian superstar musician? Didn't he really put Canadian music on the world-wide map? Don't all the other acts mentioned owe a dept of gratitude to Gordon for plowing the way?

    Methinks that whoever put this list together has yet to hit forty.
    I actually have two or three Lightfoot LPs from back in the day, (early '70s).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    I actually have two or three Lightfoot LPs from back in the day, (early '70s).

    Two words come to mind when the thought of playing them comes to mind:
    1. pee
    2. yook
    pls define yook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    I don't mind Sloan, I think that they deserve to be on the list. I just don't think that they are Top 20 material over acts like Gordon Lightfoot, Barenaked Ladies, April Wine or Kim Mitchell. Just a personal opinion.
    Ah! To your opinion, I shall concede, as it is wise and just.

    Seriously, though, if we're talking about top 20, I'll agree that Lightfoot and Ladies are higher. Not really familiar with April Wine and Kim Mitchell, though.

    Oh, and I really might be stepping in it here, but I really do love Men Without Hats. No joking no kidding. Totally underrated. Whenever I hit my vinyl haunts, I'm always looking for Pop Goes the World. No luck yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rae
    pls define yook.

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    NOT Ukranian.

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    OMG! How could I forget Saga? I wonder where/if they sit on the top 100?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rae
    Gotta agree with you there. I was just listening to Shine a Light Have they done anything since then?

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    No, Rae. The Constantines haven't done much since then. I see them touring quite regularly in southern Ontario. They're mostly from Guelph, Ontario, which has quite a cool university/music vibe. Guelph is only one hour from Toronto.

    Shine a light on this list, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    NOT Ukranian.
    Mind -> Blown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlumpBuster
    Oh, and I really might be stepping in it here, but I really do love Men Without Hats. No joking no kidding. Totally underrated. Whenever I hit my vinyl haunts, I'm always looking for Pop Goes the World. No luck yet.

    Yeah, that makes two of us! If I ever find doubles, I'll let you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Clark
    Umm, I'd put the Arcade Fire in the top 10. They'll be in my top ten this year and I'm not limiting my selections to Canadians : )

    Any list with no mention of Men Without Hats is just plain wrong...

    I have no credibility to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim goulding
    Kate and Anna McGarrigle (self titled on Warner Bros records)
    Wow. A very interesting bio from Wikipedia. Some of the highlights are reproduced below. Rufus and Martha Wainright's mom! I've never heard of them. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find any songs or samples on-line.

    Kate McGarrigle and Anna McGarrigle are sisters who write and perform together. ...Their careers in music began with the 1960s folk combo Mountain City Four, in conjunction with Jack Nissenson and Peter Weldon.

    Their songs have also been covered by a variety of other artists, including Maria Muldaur, Linda Ronstadt, Emmylou Harris, Billy Bragg, Chloé Sainte-Marie and Anne Sofie von Otter. ... Most of their French songs have been co-written by Philippe Tatartcheff, with occasional input from Kate McGarrigle's son, Canadian-American solo artist Rufus Wainwright. Rufus and his sister Martha Wainwright, also a singer, are the children of Kate and her former husband, singer-songwriter Loudon Wainwright III.
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    They provided backing vocals on Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds's 2001 album No More Shall We Part.
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    They appear in the 2006 Leonard Cohen tribute film Leonard Cohen: I'm Your Man. Cohen, like them, originates from Montreal.

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    Linda Ronstadt did a cover of Heart Like A Wheel which was written by Anna and is sung on this album as a duet with both girls trading parts. It'll plum tear your heart out. Here's a line from it . . "a heart's like a wheel- if you bend it, you can't mend it".
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    Well I wasn't going to dump on any choices for this list - but after re-visiting this thread and seeing that Sloan and Arcade Fire are the only bands singled out for criticism for being included on the list, I can't hold my tongue.

    I'm much more appalled by not one but two albums by The Tragically Hip in the top 20 than by including Arcade Fire or Sloan, but than I don't subscribe to the much held Canadian belief that "The Hip" are the greatest band ever. Just about as overrated a band, in these parts, as I can think of. Have they sold anything outside of Canada? After 20 some odd years in the business and who knows how many albums, how can they still be our little Canadian secret?

    I don't know how it can be argued about the impact of The Arcade Fire and Funeral on music and to not include them in a list like this would be rediculous. And when The Hip gets the kind of attention outside of Canada that almost all of the acts on that top 20 list have received, maybe I'll start paying attention.

    Look, I don't mean to dump on anyone for enjoying The Hip, but what makes them better or more deserving of inclusion on a list like this than The Arcade Fire? ...And maybe flavour of the month stuff is playing too big a part in my opinion of them, but when the likes of David Bowie and Bruce Springsteen and David Byrne and U2 are sharing stages with The Arcade Fire - I do take note and I do pay attention and I do think it says something about the band. So, am I wrong? So are we wrong? Is Jim Clark wrong? Is Audiobill wrong?

    It's not normally my style to dump on someone else's tastes but hey...I didn't start it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex Lion Tamer
    Well I wasn't going to dump on any choices for this list - but after re-visiting this thread and seeing that Sloan and Arcade Fire are the only bands singled out for criticism for being included on the list, I can't hold my tongue.

    I'm much more appalled by not one but two albums by The Tragically Hip in the top 20 than by including Arcade Fire or Sloan, but than I don't subscribe to the much held Canadian belief that "The Hip" are the greatest band ever. Just about as overrated a band, in these parts, as I can think of. Have they sold anything outside of Canada? After 20 some odd years in the business and who knows how many albums, how can they still be our little Canadian secret?

    I don't know how it can be argued about the impact of The Arcade Fire and Funeral on music and to not include them in a list like this would be rediculous. And when The Hip gets the kind of attention outside of Canada that almost all of the acts on that top 20 list have received, maybe I'll start paying attention.

    Look, I don't mean to dump on anyone for enjoying The Hip, but what makes them better or more deserving of inclusion on a list like this than The Arcade Fire? ...And maybe flavour of the month stuff is playing too big a part in my opinion of them, but when the likes of David Bowie and Bruce Springsteen and David Byrne and U2 are sharing stages with The Arcade Fire - I do take note and I do pay attention and I do think it says something about the band. So, am I wrong? So are we wrong? Is Jim Clark wrong? Is Audiobill wrong?

    It's not normally my style to dump on someone else's tastes but hey...I didn't start it!
    As a fellow Canadian who criticized both choices I'll respond.

    I never said that I didn't think that Arcade Fire or Sloan should be on this list. I just don't feel like they are top 20 material. And I'm not judging bands by their appeal or success outside of Canada. This is a a list of Canadian bands as chosen by Canadians. Who cares what the Americans or the Europeans think (in the context of this list anyway).

    My thoughts around this list is that Arcade Fire in the top 20 is just a flavour of the month pick. Flame away. Time will tell if I'm right or wrong.

    For what it's worth, I did catch Arcade Fire on ACL recently and have a greater appreciation for them having seen them live. But I'm still not a fan and stick with my own personal opinion that they would not make the top 20 on MY list.

    I agree that two Hip CDs in the top 20 is excessive. As are three Neil Young CDs and, as much as I love them, two Rush disks, when there are so many other great and influential albums missing.

    It would be interesting to see a list of top 20 Canadian albums by sales. First Canadian sales only and then by worldwide sales.

    My issue with this list in general is that it is list picked out by music industry insiders and not the general Canadian public (although, I'm sure if it were the general Canadian public the list would likely be much worse). But I have a problem with the author of this list publishing a book about "the top 100 Canadian albums" when the folks who have chosen these albums are not really a proper cross-sample of Canadians.

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