• 10-22-2008, 04:05 PM
    audiobill
    Top 25 Indie Break-up Songs
    Hi Ravewreckers,

    Stumbled upon this cool "stumble upon" list. The awesome thing is that you can stream all 25 of these very cool songs. Give it a try by checking this addie out.

    http://www.stumbleupon.com/toolbar/#...break-up-songs

    My favourite is Ryan Adams' "Come Pick Me Up": “I wish you would. Come pick me up. Take me out. **** me up. Steal my records. Screw all my friends, they’re all full of ****. With a smile on your face, and then do it again…”

    What other "indie breakups" would you add to the list??

    Enjoy,

    audiobill
  • 10-22-2008, 05:31 PM
    emesbee
    Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is "Indie"? Its a term I hear bandied about a lot, but I have no idea what it is. Does it mean independant perhaps?
  • 10-22-2008, 07:58 PM
    audiobill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by emesbee
    Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is "Indie"? Its a term I hear bandied about a lot, but I have no idea what it is. Does it mean independant perhaps?

    Hey emesbee,

    The term "indie" has been used in a variety of ways. To many of the Rrer regulars it means punky cool below the radar. But a quick inventory of definitions yields a clearer or sometimes blurred picture. As evidenced below.

    Ryan Schreiber, the editor and founder of Pitchfork Media, a popular online magazine that chronicles the indie music scene, said the definition also embodies a sense of idealism and an anti-corporate attitude.

    "[The term] has also, for years, been sort of the de facto label for an entire subculture of idealistic artists and music fans who place a lot of stock in the idea of making music for yourself or your friends, rather than for profit or popularity," he said.

    According to critics, indie is now nothing more than a branding tool: a highly commercial and money-driven movement, more concerned with marketing a particular image instead of culture with a truly independent nature and passion for its art.

    In May, Dave Cool, a Montreal-based filmmaker, released "What is Indie?" -- a documentary that takes a look at indie musicians and attempts to determine what being indie actually means.

    With major labels and corporations now handling distribution for some indie record labels and major film studios buying or inking deals with what were once independent film studios, the definition has become "irrelevant at this point," Cool said.

    Another way of looking at the term "indie": (from The Urban Dictionary)

    A gloriously vague term for Independant Music. Basically unsigned or more obscure bands (It's odd that Radiohead and REM are considered indie...). While the indie scene is known for it's jackass elitism, this doesn't spill over and hurt what's most important....the music. One of the few generas left that can at least carry a ****ing tune without screaming like a retard or crying.

    (Examples of Indie music)

    80's- Joy Division, Sonic Youth, The Smiths

    90's- Pavement, Radiohead, The Pixies, Happy Mondays (Are they considered dance music or indie rock?).

    Now- The Shins, Bright Eyes, Death Cab For Cutie/The Postal Service, Rilo Kelly, Modest Mouse.
    Indie Kid- "Do you guys carry Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain by Pavement or Closer by Joy Division?

    Confused FYE Employee- "Uhh, no. We do have a wall of My Chemical Romance albums on the wall behind you".

    Indie Kid- "****"


    Hope this helps and that it does not add more confusion.

    Check out the music and get a feel for yourself,

    Bill
  • 10-22-2008, 08:45 PM
    emesbee
    Thanks for that. Actually, I think I've come to the conclusion that all the labelling of music into different categories is rather pointless. I've heard people having heated arguments over whether a particular song is this style or that style. As far as I am concerned they are just splitting hairs. I just listen to music.
  • 10-22-2008, 11:36 PM
    Slosh
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audiobill
    What other "indie breakups" would you add to the list?

    "Hopeless" - The Wrens is the first thing that came to mind.
  • 10-23-2008, 04:33 AM
    Swish
    They missed an obvious one and a fave for many on RR.
    The Shins - Gone For Good -

    Untie me, I've said no vows
    The train is getting way too loud
    I gotta leave here my girl
    Get on with my lonely life

    Just leave the ring on the rail
    For the wheels to nullify

    Until this turn in my head
    I let you stay and you paid no rent
    I spent twelve long months on the lam

    That's enough sitting on the fence
    For the fear of breaking dams

    I find a fatal flaw
    In the logic of love
    And go out of my head

    You love a sinking stone
    That'll never elope
    So get used to the lonesome
    Girl, you must atone some
    Don't leave me no phone number there

    It took me all of a year
    To put the poison pill to your ear
    But now I stand on honest ground, on honest ground

    You want to fight for this love
    But honey you cannot wrestle a dove
    So baby it's clear

    You want to jump and dance
    But you sat on your hands
    And lost your only chance

    Go back to your hometown
    Get your feet on the ground
    And stop floating around

    I find a fatal flaw
    In the logic of love
    And go out of my head

    You love a sinking stone
    That'll never elope
    So get used to used to the lonesome
    Girl, you must atone some
    Don't leave me no phone number there


    Swish
  • 10-23-2008, 04:40 AM
    Swish
    And one more that's one of my all-time faves...
    ...regardless of lists. It may not be abut an actual break-up, but one that's about to happen. Read the lyrics and decide. If you haven't heard this from their stellar Ohio double cd, you need to get your hands on it. Karin Bergquist's vocals are nothing short of incredible, and the song, while only 4 simple chords (G, D, Em, C I think), is pretty much perfect.

    Over the Rhine - Long Lost Brother

    I thought that we’d be
    Further along by now
    I can’t remember how
    We stumbled to this place

    I loved you like a long lost brother
    On a bad day maybe I thought why bother
    I’ve seldom seen so much anger
    In a face

    I wanna do better
    I wanna try harder
    I wanna believe
    Down to the letter

    Jesus and Mary
    Can you carry us
    Across this ocean
    Into the arms of forgiveness

    I don’t mean to laugh outloud
    I’m trying to come clean
    Trying to shed my doubt
    Maybe I should just keep
    My big mouth shut

    More often than not
    When it comes to you
    You want whatever’s not in front of you
    Deep down I know this includes me too

    So tell me your troubles
    Let your pain rain down
    I know my job I’ve been around
    I invest in the mess
    I’m a low cost dumping ground

    Trouble is I’m so exhausted
    The plot, you see, I think I’ve lost it
    I need the grace to find what can’t be found

    Swish
  • 10-23-2008, 06:14 AM
    bobsticks
    Top 25 Indie Break-up Songs ?
    I thought they were all about tight sweaters and bad haircuts and retro-hippie environmental stuff...
  • 10-23-2008, 11:33 AM
    Stone
    Ramones - "I Remember You"
    Cursive - "The Casualty"
    The Wrens - "Happy"
  • 10-23-2008, 11:50 AM
    Davey
    Who would know? Most singers in indie bands mumble so much that you can't tell what they are singing about. So I'll go with "Fake Palindomes" by Andrew Bird. I mean, really, who wouldn't stay away from a chick that had blood in her eyes and power tools in her hands?

    Is Elliot Smith really indie? Ya know, if he is, then maybe Richard Thompson is too, and if that's the case. "I Misunderstood" is it for me. "I thought she was saying good luck, she was saying goodbye", ouch, that's the worst goodbye. Think that wound up on one of my comps. Or it should've. Brilliant.
  • 10-23-2008, 12:19 PM
    ForeverAutumn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Davey
    So I'll go with "Fake Palindomes" by Andrew Bird. I mean, really, who wouldn't stay away from a chick that had blood in her eyes and power tools in her hands?

    Man, you must've had some rough break-ups to think of that one as a breakup song. I've always though it to be more about a psychotic killer.

    I'm going to go with Luke Doucet's song Broken One.

    One day you're gonna miss me.
    One day you're gonna wake up cold.
    Then you'll wish that you could kiss me
    when you're old and you're alone.
    So cry if you want to.
    Yeah, you can come undone
    but you've gotta have a heart to have a broken one.

    You can take your accusations.
    You can have all your records back.
    You can have an opinion or a heart attack,
    'cause if you lose a kindred spirit, you'll find another one.
    But you've gotta to pull the trigger to have a smoking gun.

    Oh my girl, it must be so tight in your skin
    'cause there's no room to breathe- this fantasy you're living in.

    I need a new perpective, I need a fresh start.
    I need a girl like you like a stolen car
    because we all love the joyride until you wind up dead.
    You see, you don't need a heart to have a swollen head
  • 10-23-2008, 03:25 PM
    3-LockBox
    Is indie-ish close enough?

    Elbow - Grounds For Divorce
    Porcupine Tree - Shesmovedon
    Ben Folds Five - Song For The Dumped
  • 10-23-2008, 03:29 PM
    Swish
    I should have mentioned the Ben Fold tune.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 3-LockBox
    Is indie-ish close enough?

    Elbow - Grounds For Divorce
    Porcupine Tree - Shesmovedon
    Ben Folds Five - Song For The Dumped

    It was so freakin' obvious. And great lyrics too:

    So you wanted
    to take a break
    Slow it down some and
    have some space
    Well f<a>uck you too
    Give me my money back
    Give me my money back
    you b<a>itch

    I want my money back
    (And don't forget to give
    me back my black T-Shirt)
    Wish I hadn't bought you dinner
    Right before you dumped me
    on your front porch
    Give me my money back
    Give me my money back
  • 10-23-2008, 05:05 PM
    audiobill
    It's all over now baby blue
    Bob Dylan I'm sure once qualified as indie. In fact, he's at the top of the register in my books.

    How's about these lines from "It's All Over Now (Baby Blue)":


    (The Opening salvo)
    You must leave now, take what you need, you think will last.
    But whatever you wish to keep, you better grab it fast.

    (The Cryptic "ha!")
    All your reindeer armies, are all going home.
    The lover who just walked out your door
    Has taken all his blankets from the floor.
    The carpet, too, is moving under you
    And its all over now, baby blue.

    (The Final Burn)
    Leave your stepping stones behind, something calls for you.
    Forget the dead you've left, they will not follow you.
    The vagabond who's rapping at your door
    Is standing in the clothes that you once wore.
    Strike another match, go start anew
    And its all over now, baby blue.

    Dylan has a way of putting the shovel down once he's buried the relationship.
  • 01-27-2010, 08:29 AM
    thetasteofink
    I don't believe this is a break up song.. but definitely a sad one about loss:

    Set The Fire To The Third Bar - Snow Patrol
  • 01-27-2010, 11:53 AM
    Mr MidFi
    The Ten Silver Drops album by The Secret Machines includes several songs about the course of an ugly break-up. The first song is entirely from the guy's perspective, and then a couple of songs carry the theme in a back-and-forth, he said/she said way.

    The last song on the disc, "1000 Seconds" wraps it all up. And it seems like it could have been written from her perspective... standing in her shoes, saying these things back to the singer. It's chilling, because this is what a breakup sounds like. And feels like.

    I must admit it's a balancing act
    It looks dangerous, that's part of it
    Remember, don't look down
    You and I standing in a crowded room
    We were pressed together but we're holding on
    Like we're all that was
    That's all there was

    In a flash of light
    We were drunk, we were having a fight
    I was wrong, that don't mean you were right
    Then you played that song
    It was a thousand seconds long
    It didn't end, it seemed to play on all night
    'Cause if I remember right I fell asleep there

    Rainclouds passed and darkened more
    An evening touched by waiting for the sky burst
    Storms had gathered in crushing lines
    I surrendered to a way that I remembered you
    That's all there was

    If I were forced to choose
    What I have, I have to lose
    I need love, that don't mean I need you
    It started with that song
    It was a thousand seconds long
    It didn't end 'cause we never got through

    And did you think that I had planned it all along,
    Hoping not to be alone?
    Well I was there on the edge of the rush
    And did you leave because you thought that I would stay,
    Stricken with a holy fright?
    And it was clear as the night in the cold
    And I won't ever know what you're afraid of