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From Jaguar to Panther
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Originally Posted by Troy
That's a flanged piano. I brung it fwd in the mix between the sax riffs and used it for rhythm. There's still some screwball dissonance I don't like about it, buit I sat down with one of my neighbors today (a piano teacher w/ PhD in music) and he explained the harmonic formulas and how scales work to me, so I should be able to weed out the bad notes. Sounds remearably hi-fi on the big rig in the livingroom. I'll send you a CD when I get a pile of decent songs done, if you want.
You don't need Panther to run it. X.2 is all you need.
Neal Morse. When I've seen him live, he always seems a little uncomfortable.
My Network guy needed to upgrade me to Panther in the office to get my iMac to work properly with the Airport network, so I decided to install it at home as well, but thanks for letting my know it isn't needed. I tried to pick up iLife at the closest seller to me and they were sold out except for the Family edition. Can I install Garageband on more than one computer (work and office)? Or do I need the Family edition to do that? Don't see why I wouldn't be able to do the former. It'll save me $40 bucks.
Yeah, I'd be interested in hearing the disk when you have enough stuff. As to whether it makes you a musician, the answer is easily: no. It does, however, make you a music composer! Any monkey can be a musician...but to be a composer takes true talent! ;-)
I've been planning to put some recording software on my computer for years now, but I know I won't have the right amount of time to make good use of it. Garageband sounds like the perfect low-cost introduction to the technology, and it looks like it can be a barrel of fun. Sucks you in just like video games, huh?
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Originally Posted by nobody
Electric Skychurch - Sonic Diary
Anybody else listen to this?
You and me buddy. I've probably already mentioned that it took me a while to appreciate this album. First listen fell flat but that was in the beautiful minivan. This needs a better system to get to the point where the music envelopes you.
Might need to look into "Nobody" the album.
jc
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Originally Posted by Jim Clark
You and me buddy. I've probably already mentioned that it took me a while to appreciate this album. First listen fell flat but that was in the beautiful minivan. This needs a better system to get to the point where the music envelopes you.
Might need to look into "Nobody" the album.
jc
Yeah, that Nobody album does sound cool. Hopefully someone will report.
Hey Jim, speaking of first listens falling flat and all that, have you revisited the Moonbabies much? And if so, has your opinion changed much? The reason I ask is that I just read a review yesterday over at DOA that was very positive. I'll just copy the last paragraph below and the link and if you want you can go there to read it. Guess I'll have to check it out myself one of these days since that's the only opinion that really matters, eh? :)
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Moonbabies proves that the best European pop music today is coming from Sweden (and Hives be damned). The Orange Billboard sounds so good, plays so fluidly, feels so tight that it has a timeless quality, and there is not a single weak track on this album. In short, the duo of Ola and Carina has crafted a stellar pop album worthy of worldwide recognition.
http://www.adequacy.net/reviews/m/moonbabies.shtml#4
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Originally Posted by BarryL
Can I install Garageband on more than one computer (work and office)? Or do I need the Family edition to do that? Don't see why I wouldn't be able to do the former. It'll save me $40 bucks.
Doesn't sound like a problem at all. Keep in mind that the computer has to be able to play DVD in order to install this. For some reason, the install disc is a DVD. There are 500 MB of premade songs on there I haven't even begun to look at yet.
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Originally Posted by BarryL
Yeah, I'd be interested in hearing the disk when you have enough stuff. As to whether it makes you a musician, the answer is easily: no. It does, however, make you a music composer! Any monkey can be a musician...but to be a composer takes true talent! ;-)
It's a strange combination of things. A composer doesn't make the sound, just the notes on paper. I'm not making notes on paper. I'm making what are essentially punch cards for each instrument, so I guess that's the same kinda thing. But I'm making ther sound and arrangement. At some point I will be plugging a keyboard into it (if I can ever find the cheap one Apple is selling) and playing simple chords into the system. Am I a monkey (musician) then?
The whole thing has skewed the meaning of musician.
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Originally Posted by BarryL
I've been planning to put some recording software on my computer for years now, but I know I won't have the right amount of time to make good use of it. Garageband sounds like the perfect low-cost introduction to the technology, and it looks like it can be a barrel of fun. Sucks you in just like video games, huh?
Better and worse than video games. Worse because it is actually MORE addicting than video games. I know, I have that addiction too! Better because you are creating. You have something to keep for your time and efforts. Having a finished song is much more gratifying than a high score.
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I ain't got Nobody.
No, I don't have Nobody. Sorry guys. But I have seen it in a local store. If I remember which one, I'll pick it up and report back.
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Originally Posted by Davey.
Hey Jim, speaking of first listens falling flat and all that, have you revisited the Moonbabies much? And if so, has your opinion changed much? The reason I ask is that I just read a review yesterday over at DOA that was very positive. I'll just copy the last paragraph below and the link and if you want you can go there to read it. Guess I'll have to check it out myself one of these days since that's the only opinion that really matters, eh? :)
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Moonbabies proves that the best European pop music today is coming from Sweden (and Hives be damned). The Orange Billboard sounds so good, plays so fluidly, feels so tight that it has a timeless quality, and there is not a single weak track on this album. In short, the duo of Ola and Carina has crafted a stellar pop album worthy of worldwide recognition.
http://www.adequacy.net/reviews/m/moonbabies.shtml#4
Wow, that is quite the glowing review isn't it? Well, yes I have listened a couple of additional times and can vouch for the fact that there are some perfectly gorgeous tunes on the disc. At this point however, if it were me I'd reverse the author's preference on these two discs. After reading the review I'd guess that anyone who is at all familiar with my own peculiar tastes would be able to guess that there are parts of this I'm not going to fall in love with, at least not at first. I guess the author summed it up fairly well when he noted: "While many bands are playing modern indie-pop with a knowing debt to the stalwarts - Beatles, Beach Boys, etc. - Moonbabies effortlessly mix their influences, combining bits of that timeless pop with Sonic Youth-esque rock, keyboard-driven pop, and more modern indie rock." What I seem to hear so far is more of the Beatles and the Beach Boys and a bit less of the Sonic Youth and keyboard driven pop this time around. There are passages in the album that definetly evoke a 60's type of feel for me and I'll bet cash that this is the reason for my initial reluctance to embrace it with open arms.
I know others have a good chance of reacting differently which is why I have taken steps to let them form their own opinion. And who knows, it may grow on me! I was going to listen to Yello as I shoveled later today but perhaps I need the Moonbabies to listen to instead.
Regards,
jc
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Originally Posted by Troy
Doesn't sound like a problem at all. Keep in mind that the computer has to be able to play DVD in order to install this. For some reason, the install disc is a DVD. There are 500 MB of premade songs on there I haven't even begun to look at yet.
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DVD? That means another upgrade to my G4 at home. And no way am I putting that thing on my work computer. It would be too distracting. I was hoping to play on the weekend, but if requires DVD, it'll have to wait until I can get one. I think I'll do an accellerator board at the same time.
Those Apple guys certainly know how to make you keep upgrading!!
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Originally Posted by BarryL
DVD? That means another upgrade to my G4 at home. And no way am I putting that thing on my work computer. It would be too distracting. I was hoping to play on the weekend, but if requires DVD, it'll have to wait until I can get one. I think I'll do an accellerator board at the same time.
Those Apple guys certainly know how to make you keep upgrading!!
I thought all G4's had DVD capability?
Yes, Jobs knows his job alright.
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I'm Both A Type-A And An Early Adaptor
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Originally Posted by Troy
I thought all G4's had DVD capability?
Yes, Jobs knows his job alright.
While I would consider myself ignorant about most things related to computers and technology, I'm an early adaptor for some things. I was early out of the blocks buying my G4 when they were a roaring 400mhz. That was just before they lowered them to 350 to keep up with demand. I don't think DVD burners were even on the market then.
Then I upgraded to a new iMac with a Superdrive, and about three months later they introduced a 17" version, which I would have much preferred. Oh well. Another year or two with this one and I'll buy the latest new product of the month and then be disappointed because I didn't wait one more month!
I'm off to get my Pioneer 106 DVD burner right now, and will try to install it tonight. If all goes well, I'll get to play in the basement on the weekend (maybe).
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Originally Posted by Troy
That's a flanged piano. I brung it fwd in the mix between the sax riffs and used it for rhythm. There's still some screwball dissonance I don't like about it, buit I sat down with one of my neighbors today (a piano teacher w/ PhD in music) and he explained the harmonic formulas and how scales work to me, so I should be able to weed out the bad notes. Sounds remearably hi-fi on the big rig in the livingroom. I'll send you a CD when I get a pile of decent songs done, if you want.
You don't need Panther to run it. X.2 is all you need.
Neal Morse. When I've seen him live, he always seems a little uncomfortable.
Hi Troy, I had a listen (5MB!!, dump the bitrate down to 128 and have some mercy on those of us on dialup). The sound quality is great isn't it. I think that's probably got something to do with the fact that the mix isn't "busy" so you've escaped having multiple instruments fighting for the same space. I really like the drums, not so much the heartbeat intro, but when you start playing with the little fills and crash cymbals that seems tasty. Personally I'm not so into the abrupt changes (like when the sax comes in) for me there should be some kind of build to the change. Maybe try reversing a crash cymbal sound so there's a rising whoosh before the Paaaarp? Lots of nice instrument voices too. You are such a prog boy ;-)
Does the program come with a synth instrument that you can actually program the patch yourself?
I haven't got around to building a homepage where I could post one of my own tunes, mebbe I'll get around to mailing one your way.
Keep up the good work, Chris.
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Nick Lowe, Dig My Mood. NO THANKYOU! I doubt even DLD would like this although [B
Failed Christian[/B] and Man That I've Become are listenable.
jc
Hey, ya gotta include High On A Hlltop as a keeper too. One of his best. And to me, Failed Christian justified the purchase price. I'd throw in two or three others that Mr. Mind just can't come up with names for right now along with The Man That I've Become.
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Originally Posted by chrisnz
Hi Troy, I had a listen (5MB!!, dump the bitrate down to 128 and have some mercy on those of us on dialup). The sound quality is great isn't it.
Sorry 'bout that. Fidelity geek that I am, I just can't bring myself to step on it any more than that. Apple is making a big deal about how this is CD quality etc. It really does sound great on a good stereo.
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Originally Posted by chrisnz
I think that's probably got something to do with the fact that the mix isn't "busy" so you've escaped having multiple instruments fighting for the same space. I really like the drums, not so much the heartbeat intro, but when you start playing with the little fills and crash cymbals that seems tasty. Personally I'm not so into the abrupt changes (like when the sax comes in) for me there should be some kind of build to the change. Maybe try reversing a crash cymbal sound so there's a rising whoosh before the Paaaarp? Lots of nice instrument voices too.
Thanks for the compliments! Yeah, just because you can lay 64 tracks doesn't mean that you should, eh? 5 at any one time is plenty. I'll consider your suggestion, but I'm a bigger fan of abrupt change ups than you . . . Remember that on about the 3rd listen you are anticipating (and hopefully looking forward to!) it. I think that's one o' them prog things.
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Originally Posted by chrisnz
You are such a prog boy ;-)
Wait til you hear what the next one I've been working on sounds like!
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Originally Posted by chrisnz
Does the program come with a synth instrument that you can actually program the patch yourself?
Not sure I understand your terminology. What does "patch" mean?
There are 8 different synthesizers to work with (named things like analog basic, digital stepper, analog pad etc.) and each one has about 15 different factory sound settings and each of those settings can be tweaked manually a million different ways which you can then save.
Plus there are settings for about 2 dozen things like echo, reverb, flange, phased, hi pass, gateing, overdrive and many more that can be attributed to any instrument.
Not to mention the 1000's of possible combinations of different attributes to the overall soundstage . . .
It's quite overwhelming.
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Originally Posted by chrisnz
I haven't got around to building a homepage where I could post one of my own tunes, mebbe I'll get around to mailing one your way.
I'd LOVE to hear what you're doing. You or anybody else.
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Originally Posted by chrisnz
Keep up the good work, Chris.
Thanks mang!
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I would imagine someone's already asked, but is there anything similar to the GarageBand thing for Windows? I've always used Apple until the last computer I bought, and just had to make the switch because of price. I think I may be sorry now.
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Originally Posted by nobody
I would imagine someone's already asked, but is there anything similar to the GarageBand thing for Windows? I've always used Apple until the last computer I bought, and just had to make the switch because of price. I think I may be sorry now.
Try ACID. It sounds similar, but less flexable.
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Originally Posted by Troy
Try ACID. It sounds similar, but less flexable.
Oooof! That sounds like Apple marketing flufffff. Acid's been around for about a decade and Garageband is a straight out copy. There's one cool thing about it that Acid doesn't have and that's the loop format that holds both MIDI, audio and instrument patch information.
From a previous question about synths Troy. It does sound like Gband does have it's own incorporated synths that you can program. A patch is just a synth sound, ie. the sum of all the control settings.
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