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    Super Stones let down

    Ok people. Can we finally close the book on the superbowl halftime show...can we? They just cannot get it right. I don't think its the peformers, its the staff and sound crew that seem to have no clue. Aaron Nevill looked like he was having trouble hearing or there was something wrong with his earpiece, the vocals for all the performances were way too hot...I'm convinced you can't do any act justice by trying to put on a first rate show in a 30 minute timeframe...it isn't working; bad sound, bad mixing, stupid, fake concert audience on the field. Now people are talking about how bad The Stones sounded/looked, and why are they still playing and why won't they hang it up...

    I don't care who you put out there at haltime; unless they lipsync, they're going to sound bad. Let's let the Superbowl be about football and stop trying to cater to the non-fan. Screw the non-fan! Go watch Lost or Desperate Housewives or whatever tired old hopital show they've recycled (code black, anyone?)...stop having Superbowl parties...stop asking stupid questions - how many of those people would like it if I broke right in the middle of '24' or 'Lost' and said, "Catch me up"?

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    Dood,

    they gotta continue to do halftime entertainment so we cannot miss any ball and go to get more beer or pills or have sex or kill the neighbor's dog or start a fire or wash the car or mow the lawn or clean an lp.

    I would watch it if the halftime show was a Victorias Secret modeling session.

    LOL!!!!!

    Maybe next year they will have The Flower Kings play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_G
    I would watch it if the halftime show was a Victorias Secret modeling session.

    LOL!!!!!

    Maybe next year they will have The Flower Kings play.

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    My gripe is:

    Why let a band play songs that have been censored?

    You make a dead man.....................................

    Also, in Satisfasction, doesn't he say Can't get no Girly Action more than one time?

    The Stones sounded like crap 30 years ago, why would they be any different now?

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    I couldn't agree more

    Lets end the half time shows, and stop having people butcher the national anthem. Just play a recorded version with no vocals, and get the game started!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 3-LockBox
    Ok people. Can we finally close the book on the superbowl halftime show...can we? They just cannot get it right. I don't think its the peformers, its the staff and sound crew that seem to have no clue. Aaron Nevill looked like he was having trouble hearing or there was something wrong with his earpiece, the vocals for all the performances were way too hot...I'm convinced you can't do any act justice by trying to put on a first rate show in a 30 minute timeframe...it isn't working; bad sound, bad mixing, stupid, fake concert audience on the field. Now people are talking about how bad The Stones sounded/looked, and why are they still playing and why won't they hang it up...

    I don't care who you put out there at haltime; unless they lipsync, they're going to sound bad. Let's let the Superbowl be about football and stop trying to cater to the non-fan. Screw the non-fan! Go watch Lost or Desperate Housewives or whatever tired old hopital show they've recycled (code black, anyone?)...stop having Superbowl parties...stop asking stupid questions - how many of those people would like it if I broke right in the middle of '24' or 'Lost' and said, "Catch me up"?

    At least we could laugh at Up With People

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    The Stones performance was more "real" than most of the pompus performances of years past. They might have been sloppy and yes, they're old, but to me, they rocked. The sound over my tv was good, in that I thought the mix was good, I could hear everything, even the bass.. I guess I didn't have high expectations, so I was able to relax and enjoy it. I don't know, I don't care much about the Stones, so I'm glad to see the old geezers still rocking out. Given everything that *could* have gone wrong, they were on. Probably because they know how to play stadiums. Unlike some of the crap bands and singers they've had on in past Superbowls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Jar-
    The Stones performance was more "real" than most of the pompus performances of years past. -jar
    Oh I didn't have real high expectations for this SB's halftime anyway. Its got to be a logistics nightmare. Yeah, The Stones are used to playing large arenas and stadiums, but with their own gear. You just can't pull off the kinda show w/ a 10 min set-up the way they (SB crew) are trying to do it. Anyone is going to sound 'off' because they either can't hear themselves, or the sound in their ear is ahead of or lags the rest of the band.

    I for one am not saying The Stones are washed up. This just serves as exhibit 'XL' as to why it doesn't work.

    But Tagliabu himself has as much as conceided that the SB is an event that transcends the game. That is a shame.

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    I'm with Jar on this one. I really didn't mind their set. I probably would have opted for a closer besides the incredibly shop-worn 'Satisfaction'...but hell, at least they rocked.

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    Wow, the Stones sucked and appeared old. Who'd a thunk it? This has been old news for 20+ years.

    People still pay literally thousands of dollars to see them, why SHOULD they stop? When the boomer generation ever grows up and stops trying to constantly relive it's youth, that's when The Stones will fade away. Until then, we continue to see Charlie Watts stare blankly off into the middle distance like he's got alzheimers, while he boom-chucks off into the sunset.

    I love the planted "audience" all wearing color-coordinated pastel colors too. Pretty. Again, old news.

    But to me the big thing was, as HyFi said, the censoring of "Cocks" from that awfully boring new song that is really nothing but a corporate jingle. It flies in the face of EVERYTHING the Stones were supposed to stand for.

    The Super Bowel has gone SO FAR past being about football. And that's a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy
    The Super Bowel has gone SO FAR past being about football. And that's a shame.
    Now with pre- and post-game 'entertainment', throw in a third rate officiating crew and the Superbowl is inching ever closer to being as superfilous as the Pro Bowl. Since when did Vince McMahon start running the Superbowl anyway?

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    First off I totally agree that the entire event should be about football. I'm mean, look who was playing. The Steelers don't even have cheerleaders for jah's sake. Also the halftime should be 15 minutes like every other game.

    But if you are going to do a halftime show why not get a local act? What, they couldn't find anyone in MoTown? Sheesh. Or at least get The White Stripes.

    I'll give the Stones a little credit here for not doing any of those annoying medlies, however.
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    They were sloppy as hell. Outside of the vocals, which I thought just plain sucked, I loved how sloppy it was, especially at an event like that. Their guitars sounded like guitars. Through overdriven amps. Which generally don't sound good at all in large spaces.

    I just don't understand what anyone who claims to be disappointed expected. Top-notch musicianship? Stellar vocals? Guitars firmly at 440? I was indifferent before, and in spite of how much I hate the 1st song they did, I don't think I've heard a live performance by them in more than 30 years that sounded as good as this. And it's not like I thought it was all that good, either. But the complaints I'm seeing seem to be predicated on what I thought were the positives in the performance.

    As for what the Stones 'were supposed to stand for...' what is that, exactly? These are the same people who agreed to 'Let's Spend Some Time Together...' 39 years ago, at a time when I think people who didn't know of Jagger's study in economics might've actually had a reason to think they stood for something resembling rebellion. Maybe they did...but it seems to me that rebels wouldn't have agreed to have Jovan sponsor a tour...in 1981. Or for Atlantic Records to change the name of a song to Star Star. Or allow Microsoft to license the rights to Start Me Up. Or do credit card commercials. Or to present School Boy Blues to Decca knowing that was the ONE way to assure that it'd never see the light of day. Or to choose to not issue 'Claudine.' Or to have booted Eric Easton in favor of Andrew Loog Oldham (who has a good program on Sirius on Little Steven's channel, btw).

    These are business moves, and they don't strike me as insane, but then I'm pretty skeptical on the topic of what they're supposed to stand for, I guess. There's an element of rebellion there, obviously. But only an element, firmly held in check by good business sense going back more than 40 years at this point. Outside of that, I agree with most of what Troy said.

    That they would've gone ahead knowing that with a delay there was a possibility that a censor might bleep out a word or phrase that someone might find offensive if they could even understand the delivery enough to grasp the context...seems like something that's very consistent with many decisions they've made over the course of their career. And it was good business sense to risk being censored in order to be seen by more people at one time than they probably ever have, and almost certainly than they ever will be again.

    I don't think they'll lose too many sales over a misguided view that all of a sudden, NOW they're sellouts. And I don't understand how it is that people think that sounding like...the Rolling Stones...is somehow disappointing.

    I don't like others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindGoneHaywire
    They were sloppy as hell. Outside of the vocals, which I thought just plain sucked, I loved how sloppy it was, especially at an event like that. Their guitars sounded like guitars. Through overdriven amps. Which generally don't sound good at all in large spaces.
    The event isn't condusive to anyone sounding good or coming across well. You throw together a good anything in the 5 or so minutes they have after the 2nd quarter ends. I don't think The Stones sucked any worse than any other act has under the circumstances. My only point is that it isn't working, no matter who is up there.

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    Can we just let the cheerleaders do the halftime show?
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