So do I watch the Eagles or the Eagles tonight?

[Swish]

The Philly Eagles, my team, win or lose, are facing insurmountable odds tonight while playing at New England. They're likely to get clobbered and the betting line is one of the largest ever in the NFL at 24 I think.What a shame that cheater coach was able to pick up so many good free agents and create a monster.

Or I could watch 60 Minutes, which is running very late due to the O.T. football game, and watch their interview of the Eagles, that wonderful hit-making washed up mediocre band that just refuses to go away, although they should. How many times can they repackage their 'greatest hits' and have yet another 'huge tour'? Just go away please. Not that I watch 60 Minutes anyway. This is just one more reason to tune out.

So I guess it's the former and not the latter.

Swish

[3-LockBox]

That was a good game...if only the Eagles were capable of that kind of effort week-in/week-out.

Andy Reed musta really got the straight dope on New England

[Hyfi]

That was a good game...if only the Eagles were capable of that kind of effort week-in/week-out.

Andy Reed musta really got the straight dope on New England

They would be if we would get rid of McNabb! I heard Andy's kids hooked him up for the game.

[Swish]

That was a good game...if only the Eagles were capable of that kind of effort week-in/week-out.

Andy Reed musta really got the straight dope on New England

Back in the day I would have been laughing my tail off when a couple dozen ticked-off RRers would have ripped me for calling N.E. cheaters or for blasting the Eagles. I guess this place is extra dead on Sunday nights, eh?

Yeah, the Iggles should really have won that game, or at least tied it up late in the 4th. They must have consulted Penn State for that red zone play that resulted in the INT that iced it for the Pats. I mean, you move it down the field with relative ease (again, like they did nearly the entire game), and then you abandon the plays that are working and lob it deep. WTF were they thinking? What make me laugh is that the Eagles offense actually outscored their offense. Take away the first INT and it's a different game. And it was in their back yard to boot.

Well, even with the loss, they proved one thing; New England is vulnerable and can be beaten with the right game plan. Their secondary was certainly exposed, and just watch what other teams do against them. Are they still the best in the league, sure, but there is a way to beat them.

Go Eagles!
Swish

[PeruvianSkies]

and yet the Eagles give NE the most challenging game of their seasons. While I am not normally a fan of the Eagles I certainly wanted to see them break NE's streak. Go Green Bay!

[3-LockBox]

Back in the day I would have been laughing my tail off when a couple dozen ticked-off RRers would have ripped me for calling N.E. cheaters or for blasting the Eagles. I guess this place is extra dead on Sunday nights, eh?

Yes it is extra dead on Sundays...and its not challenging to shoot fish in a barrel.

I agree with you though; when you like a team, you like the team. I could care less if Belichik spied on other teams, because I was a New England fan since the Grogan days, and I stayed a fan when everyone was on the '85 Bears' bandwagon and gave me a huge ration of sh!t.

Belichick is the Sith Lord and Brady his Anikan Skywalker. And yeah, they're gonna get theirs in the end, what with running up scores and such, but for now its amazing to watch.

BTW: I did use the words dope and Reed in the same sentence, which I thought was a fairly clever and biting reference (not to mention obvious).

[Swish]

Yes it is extra dead on Sundays...and its not challenging to shoot fish in a barrel.

I agree with you though; when you like a team, you like the team. I could care less if Belichik spied on other teams, because I was a New England fan since the Grogan days, and I stayed a fan when everyone was on the '85 Bears' bandwagon and gave me a huge ration of sh!t.

Belichick is the Sith Lord and Brady his Anikan Skywalker. And yeah, they're gonna get theirs in the end, what with running up scores and such, but for now its amazing to watch.

BTW: I did use the words dope and Reed in the same sentence, which I thought was a fairly clever and biting reference (not to mention obvious).

You don't care that he spied? I don't know if I like the sound of that. Kind of like saying you don't care if Barry Bonds took steroids. It's cheating and he was fined, but he should have been suspended. It was a weak punishment to say the least.

That doesn't diminish the fact that they have a great team. Unbeatable? Nope. The Eagles had them for nearly the entire game. That second INT was the killer.

Swish

[Hyfi]

That second INT was the killer.

The first one was a killer also, 2 plays into the game. All in all, the beagles showed that if they WANT IT, they can actually play like it.

Keep in mind that it was a full moon this weekend and on Saturday night, the Flyers played like they want to win and did.

I heard a few good TO comments this morning about how he complained about the Eagles organization and he was labeled a cry baby. But, he moves on and does what he does best for another team. 4 TDs in a game ain't bad. Maybe it was the Eagles/McNabb and not just TO. I really think that Reed needs to take a leave from the game and get his house in order. I don't know how he can be followed and respected to the fullest when his family is in shambles. Hmmmmm, did daddy even pay any attention besides throwing money at them?

[Troy]

"Andy Reed had the straight dope on NE" You're killin' me.

I don't care that Belichick spied, because they all do. Coordinators always cover they mouths when they all plays to avoid lip readers. Teams have always been very secretive with their play calling and signals. They are constantly changing anyway.

You should always be trying for any advantage in every sport. If you are not pushing the rulebook envelope, you're failing at your job.

Besides, Belichick has shown after spygate that they don't need the other team's signals anyway.

The guy's the most brilliant football mind since Walsh. Yeah, he's an obsessed jerk too. At that level of the sport they all are. He's changing the level of expectations in the sport and he's not taking any crap from anybody in the process. What's not to like?

Nope, TRYING to steal the other teams plays should be legal. It should be up to YOU to guard YOUR plays!

It should be legal, just like the 'roids. Most of MLB was on heavy drugs thru the 90s/early-2000s. Bonds will be a scapegoat for the entire sport. Most of MLB is still on performance enhancing drugs. Legalize it. I want to see 7 foot tall, 300 pound wide receivers, running a 4.3 40 in the NFL. I want to see a monster shot HR every other at bat. I want to see how far we can go!

See, they think they can police all this kind of stuff at all levels of sport and society, but they truly can't. There's drugs to mask the illegal drugs, just like you can put someone in the stands dressed like a fan, with a 1000mm lens to record signals. It's all unenforceable, so it should all be legal.

[3-LockBox]

Hey, if Ricky Williams can be reinstated...

The only team Belichick didn't spy on was Seattle, cuz when you run the same fvcking play on every down...yeah well...to say the Seahawks have become predictable is an understatement. Who wants Shawn Alexander? Anyone? He's guilty of cheating - his team out of a lot of money.

I hope Belichick wins 14 games and mails in the last two. Its about superbowl wins anyway. I don't care if they run the table. If they got losing in their system, let 'em get it out in the regular season, and not in the playoffs. Poetic justice isn't running the table anyway, its watching Miami going 0 wins for a season after Shula's asterisk remark. I rather see that happen then a NE perfect season.

[Troy]

Poetic justice isn't running the table anyway, its watching Miami going 0 wins for a season after Shula's asterisk remark. I rather see that happen then a NE perfect season.

Yeah, the Miami record needs an asterisk itself. The didn't play a single team with a winning record that season. Few people seem to know this little publicized fact.

[PeruvianSkies]

Go Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen Bay!

Aside from Brady having babies and a great high-scoring season there is something else amazing happening this year that no one is talking about: Favre.

The guy's destroying teams this year, and the Patriots 11-0 record is undermining a great team in Green Bay that is putting up great numbers and really playing some great football, not to mention the fact that Favre is having without a doubt the best season of his career, at 38 years of age. The Patriots didn't look too hot against the Eagles and I think against Green Bay they would destroy their secondary as Favre has tons of options, let's talk about a guy named Jennings who is putting up huge numbers, but also isn't talked about as much as T.O. or Moss. Then there's Donald Driver, Donald Lee, and Jones, plus a great running back in Ryan Grant. If Green Bay can get past Dallas this week, it will certainly make it an easy guess to see GB vs. NE.

[Swish]

Go Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen Bay!

Aside from Brady having babies and a great high-scoring season there is something else amazing happening this year that no one is talking about: Favre.

The guy's destroying teams this year, and the Patriots 11-0 record is undermining a great team in Green Bay that is putting up great numbers and really playing some great football, not to mention the fact that Favre is having without a doubt the best season of his career, at 38 years of age. The Patriots didn't look too hot against the Eagles and I think against Green Bay they would destroy their secondary as Favre has tons of options, let's talk about a guy named Jennings who is putting up huge numbers, but also isn't talked about as much as T.O. or Moss. Then there's Donald Driver, Donald Lee, and Jones, plus a great running back in Ryan Grant. If Green Bay can get past Dallas this week, it will certainly make it an easy guess to see GB vs. NE.

...he did zippo against the Eagles, and they didn't deserve to win that game. That's old news and he is ripping it up pretty well with good protection and receivers. I'd like to see them beat Dallas. Speaking of the "America's Most Hated Team", how the heck do they get 3 home games in a row at this point of the season? And on Thanksgiving again too? It's just fvcking ridiculous. And their road schedule is akin to a joke, although Detroit is playing decent football for the most part.

Swish

[PeruvianSkies]

...he did zippo against the Eagles, and they didn't deserve to win that game. That's old news and he is ripping it up pretty well with good protection and receivers. I'd like to see them beat Dallas. Speaking of the "America's Most Hated Team", how the heck do they get 3 home games in a row at this point of the season? And on Thanksgiving again too? It's just fvcking ridiculous. And their road schedule is akin to a joke, although Detroit is playing decent football for the most part.

Swish

But they did shut down the Vikings and I do mean shut down! I think Green Bay will win the Super Bowl this year.

[Slosh]

Yeah, the Miami record needs an asterisk itself. They didn't play a single team with a winning record that season. Few people seem to know this little publicized fact.

I'm not sure if you're saying this tongue-in-cheek but if you aren't keep in mind there were not 32 teams back then and thus the talent pool had much higher quality players, so many of those sub-.500 teams were better than several of today's current teams with winning records. *cough* Giants *cough* Seahawks Oh, and I believe their playoff and SB victories came again teams with winning records

Okay, I was four in '72 so what the hell do I know?

[johnny p]

also keep in mind, in order for Miami to go winless (which I'm pulling for too) would require the Patriots to beat them the last game of the season.... so here's the scenario......

NE Undefeated,
Miami Winless....

What an upset that would be.... the 72' Dolphins would pop a LOT of Champagne for that one.... OR the 72' Dolphins would recieve a MAJOR one-two punch!

[Rich-n-Texas]

I didn't. I watched NASCAR races to see Dale Earnhardt win. He was a hero of mine; drug free, but when he died, so went my enthusiasm for the sport.

I suppose I'm on the losing end of the debate, but if everybody things drugs are the future of sports I guess I'll try to hack a bigger disk drive into my PVR and save my Eagles, Phillies and Flyers games before it's too late.

One more note: Legislation is being/has passed here in Texas to start Steriod screening at the High School level.

[Rich-n-Texas]

I would say that 99% of hockey players play because they love the sport and come from other countries where the almighty dollar is not the bottom line. Booze is legal, prescription drugs are legal and cocaine doesn't enhance performance but is rather a recreational drug. If there IS more drug use in hockey, it's not used as an organized method for cheating in the sport.