• 04-05-2004, 03:13 PM
    mad rhetorik
    Experiment for a future tournament
    In Newtrix's Wilco v. Talking Heads thread I postulated an idea for future Favorite Artist tournaments. Instead of having bands from completely different genres fight it out (Wilco v. Yes, for example), divide the competitors into genres (New Wave/Post Punk, Punk, Prog, Alternative, Indie, Metal, Hard Rock, Singer/Songwriter, Current Bands etc.).

    Put 8 artists in each genre. Have them shootout elimination-style (prelims, semi, final). Get a winner in each genre, then stage another elimination tournament with the winners until a champion emerges. Whaddya think?

    Here are the working genres I've come up with so far:

    <b>Current Bands</b>
    Radiohead
    White Stripes
    Wilco
    My Morning Jacket
    Broken Social Scene
    Strokes
    Beck
    Shins

    <b>Indie Rock</b>
    Dismemberment Plan
    Slint
    Pavement
    Sunny Day Real Estate
    Guided By Voices
    Flaming Lips
    Built To Spill
    Neutral Milk Hotel

    <b>Alternative</b>
    Pixies
    Sonic Youth
    My Bloody Valentine
    Husker Du
    Meat Puppets
    Jane's Addiction
    REM
    Replacements

    <b>Seattle</b>
    Nirvana
    Mudhoney
    Soundgarden
    Mother Love Bone/Pearl Jam
    Alice In Chains
    Melvins
    Green River
    Screaming Trees

    <b>Punk</b>
    Ramones
    Clash
    Sex Pistols
    Black Flag
    Minor Threat/Fugazi
    Dead Kennedys
    Bad Brains
    Stooges

    <b>New Wave/Post Punk</b>
    Talking Heads
    XTC
    Joy Division/New Order
    The Cure
    U2
    Echo & The Bunnymen
    Gary Numan
    Killing Joke

    <b>Brit Pop (Mini-Shootout, 2-Round Elimination)</b>
    Psychedelic Furs
    Blur
    Stone Roses
    Smiths

    <b>Singer/Songwriter</b>
    Bob Dylan
    Neil Young
    Bruce Springsteen
    Tom Waits
    Elvis Costello
    David Bowie
    Johnny Cash
    Bob Marley

    <b>British Invasion (Mini-Shootout, 2-Round Elimination)</b>
    The Who
    Beatles
    Rolling Stones
    Kinks

    <b>Beatles, Solo Career (Mini-Shootout, 2-Round Elimination)</b>
    John Lennon
    Paul McCartney
    Ringo Starr
    George Harrison

    <b>Hard Rock</b>
    Cream
    Led Zeppelin
    Queen
    Ac/Dc
    Jimi Hendrix Experience
    Aerosmith
    New York Dolls
    Doors

    <b>Progressive Rock</b>
    Yes
    Genesis
    King Crimson
    Jethro Tull
    Pink Floyd
    Rush
    Can
    Dream Theater

    <b>Metal</b>
    Black Sabbath
    Iron Maiden
    Judas Priest
    Motorhead
    Metallica
    Slayer
    Sepultura
    Opeth

    <b>Hip-Hop/Rap</b>
    Run-DMC
    Beastie Boys
    Public Enemy
    Cypress Hill
    NWA
    A Tribe Called Quest
    Outkast
    Eminem

    <b>Funk & R&B (Mini-Shootout, 2-Round Elimination)</b>
    James Brown
    Marvin Gaye
    Curtis Mayfield
    Prince

    <b>Trip-Hop/Electronica (Mini-Shootout, 2-Round Elimination)</b>
    Massive Attack
    Portishead
    Bjork
    Tricky
  • 04-05-2004, 05:31 PM
    Jim Clark
    What?

    Gazing is under alt?

    No synthpop? Are you an anti-synthite?

    What about industrial for the rivet heads?

    Can't forget Brit-pop.

    Don't even get me started on techno.

    If Siouxie ain't playing, neither am I. ditto for INXS, JT, ahh, but I see you got Numan so all is forgiven.

    Just kidding of course, your game-go crazy.

    jc
  • 04-05-2004, 05:52 PM
    mad rhetorik
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jim Clark
    Gazing is under alt?
    Uh..close enough I guess.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jim Clark
    No synthpop? Are you an anti-synthite?
    What, New Order ain't synth enough for you? : P


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jim Clark
    What about industrial for the rivet heads?
    I don't know the genre well enough. Gimme 8 good industrial bands and I'll include that too.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jim Clark
    Can't forget Brit-pop.
    Crap like Oasis? Sure as hell can forget that. Alright, how 'bout another mini-shootout:
    Psychedelic Furs
    Blur
    Stone Roses
    Primal Scream


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jim Clark
    Don't even get me started on techno.
    And downtempo...and trance...and house....and jungle....(yeah I read that ishkur.com guide too ; p)


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jim Clark
    If Siouxie ain't playing, neither am I. ditto for INXS, JT, ahh, but I see you got Numan so all is forgiven.
    Siouxie was under consideration, but I've got only room for eight and I'm more familiar with Gary Numan than Siouxie, so...
  • 04-05-2004, 07:21 PM
    newtrix1
    Well, you know I'm in!
    I think Nike might have the appropriate advice here: Just Do it!

    Nice list, another genre to possibly consider is trip-hop/electronica: Portishead, Massive Attack, Tricky, Laika, Beth Orton, Madonna, Bjork, Beck, etc.
  • 04-05-2004, 07:35 PM
    mad rhetorik
    The contest is now ready.
    Alright, I've got enough genres (16) to do this without having any loose ends. Thanks, Jim and Newtrix, for giving me some additional genres to use.

    I'll start tonight with the following three shootouts:

    Current Bands, Match 1: <b>Shins v. My Morning Jacket</b>
    Indie Rock, Match 1: <b>Sunny Day Real Estate v. Guided By Voices</b>
    Alternative, Match 1: <b>Meat Puppets v. Jane's Addiction</b>

    More matchups to come soon.