I was out exploring for new music again and found these two bands. Nightwish sounds very cool and their album Once is on my next to buy list. I first heard of Rammstein when they were listed as favorite listening by the boys that killed those kids at school in Colorado. It was hard to get a feel for them from sound samples, I kind of liked the album Reise Reise. Is Rammstein versatile enough to be entertaining or are they just for moshing? Anyone else have any Nightwish and have thoughts?