Who here has a Zune???

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  • 03-14-2007, 09:54 PM
    Dusty Chalk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    Okay, 720p then. 480p. Don't matter...why would you ever choose the smaller screen assuming that the actual casings were the same size? That's something a stupid person would do.

    You obviously haven't seen 480p on a 42" screen -- looks like dookie.

    And you're getting out of hand with that "stupid", stupid.
  • 03-15-2007, 01:43 PM
    audio_dude
    and N. Abstentia... the Zune case is much larger than the 30gig iPods...
    and Dusty, i've seen what they are calling "EDTV" on a 42 incher...
    (its basically 480p, with more vertical lines to fill in the widescreen portion)
    true 4:3 480p looks distorted and wide if the same rez is used on a widescreen plasma.
  • 03-15-2007, 04:04 PM
    N. Abstentia
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
    You obviously haven't seen 480p on a 42" screen -- looks like dookie.

    And you're getting out of hand with that "stupid"

    If the shoe fits.....

    I can't think of a better word to describe what I'm seeing in my mind.
  • 03-15-2007, 04:07 PM
    N. Abstentia
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio_dude
    and N. Abstentia... the Zune case is much larger than the 30gig iPods...

    Well the Zune does have a much bigger and clearer screen, so I guess that's why. And the case is not really that much bigger....you make it sound like it's as big as a brick. It's like 3mm bigger. But once you see that sweet Zune screen and feel the solidness of the construction of the Zune, you don't think about that 3mm.
  • 03-15-2007, 05:18 PM
    audio_dude
    HERE'S how big ur stinkin zune is compared to an iPod: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-...pod-212722.php
    and why would you say the zune is any sturdier than an iPod... isn't it made of plastic anyway?
  • 03-15-2007, 06:17 PM
    N. Abstentia
    Errrrr....eeeyeah. Thanks for that link, it just proved what I said to be right. Zune = 4.4 inches, iPod = 4.1 inches. So mine is indeed bigger than yours. It's pretty dang impressive that they packed in wireless, a bigger screen, better sound quality, longer battery life, and better file support all in a package only .000004 inches bigger than an iPod. Thanks for that info!


    Next?
  • 03-15-2007, 06:39 PM
    emorphien
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio_dude
    HERE'S how big ur stinkin zune is compared to an iPod: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-...pod-212722.php
    and why would you say the zune is any sturdier than an iPod... isn't it made of plastic anyway?

    All of a sudden plastic isn't sturdy? That argument is ill informed and old. It's about the design of the device more than the material. Apple made the powerbooks out of titanium at one point and those were among the most frail laptops I've ever dealt with. Dell has made many laptops out of plastic and some just fall apart while others were quite rugged. Thinkpads are made out of metal & plastic and are pretty much universally more rugged than an Apple laptop or any Dell. In fact the iBooks (don't know about the new Macbooks) were more rugged in my experience than the powerbooks were. The plastic cases withstood more shock and abuse.
  • 03-16-2007, 07:55 AM
    audio_dude
    no no no, i'm just making a point...

    but who cares about the wireless?? what can you do? send some DRM dead song over to someone else... great.

    And where are you pulling these claims of better sound quality and longer battery life out of??

    oh and N. Abstentia, that extra .3 inches was so microsoft could PUT that bigger screen in.
    And WHAT better file support... it doesn't even support microsoft's own "Play's for Sure" format... how bad is that? oh, and it doesn't support WMA lossless too.
    The iPod supports a perfect amount of file formats, even without FLAC
  • 03-16-2007, 09:56 AM
    N. Abstentia
    Okay, so what have we determined here...let's see..according to audio_dude, an elitest jerk, (even though his only speakers appear to be $149 entry level Paradigm Atoms) the Zune does everything an iPod does except the Zune adds wireless, a bigger screen, WMA support, and it costs less.

    So..what are we arguing here?
  • 03-16-2007, 11:16 AM
    emorphien
    I don't get why so much effort is being wasted to berate the zune (for no reason and using a lot of stupid incorrect factoids). If you really want to brag about how great you think the iPod is, go find an iPod forum and pat yourself on the back there because they probably care!
  • 03-17-2007, 12:04 AM
    Dusty Chalk
    Uh...last I checked, this isn't a Zune forum, so ... right back at ya.
  • 03-17-2007, 07:20 AM
    emorphien
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
    Uh...last I checked, this isn't a Zune forum, so ... right back at ya.

    This is a Zune thread which you folks have decided to crash.
  • 03-17-2007, 07:59 AM
    audio_dude
    meh... Who cares if I have atoms... plus, you DO remember the elitist jerks thread...don't you? yeah...a JOKE

    ok, wireless...as of right now, VERY pointless. WMA, who cares?? iTunes can easily convert them to AAC or MP3... (AAC is equal to or better than WMA) and bigger screen means bigger device. I could care less about the screen size... and you do realise that in approx. Q4 of this year, apple is very likely to release a touchscreen like iPod (similar to the iPhone) so suck on THAT


    (oh yes, just to let you know, I am currently looking for new speakers, i'm interested in Von Schweikert VR-2's, Magnepan MMG's and if I can find on, maybe some Apogee Centaurs...)



    edit: The zune is the SAME price as the iPod... $249 at most places for both...
  • 03-17-2007, 12:28 PM
    N. Abstentia
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio_dude
    meh... Who cares if I have atoms... plus, you DO remember the elitist jerks thread...don't you? yeah...a JOKE

    ok, wireless...as of right now, VERY pointless. WMA, who cares?? iTunes can easily convert them to AAC or MP3... (AAC is equal to or better than WMA) and bigger screen means bigger device. I could care less about the screen size... and you do realise that in approx. Q4 of this year, apple is very likely to release a touchscreen like iPod (similar to the iPhone) so suck on THAT



    edit: The zune is the SAME price as the iPod... $249 at most places for both...

    LOL! Yeah a touch screen iPod will be great. That should be almost as great as a touchscreen remote control..which sucks to use. I can see every time you stick that touchscreen iPod in your pocket (or in your arse, which you probably would like better) every button getting pushed. Every time you take a step...buttons getting pushed. Should be great. In case you haven't noticed, touchscreens are universally hated.

    And FYI, the Zune is $224. Bigger screen than iPod, wireless, costs less. It's just that simple.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16855604002

    When are you going to realize that every time you say something about the Zune, we're going to prove it wrong. What would you like to say next?
  • 03-17-2007, 07:22 PM
    audio_dude
    the biggest issue... does it come in an 80gig model? eh? oh, whats this? it doesn't? oh, sorry, too bad.

    oh, and theres one thing ur not getting about touchscreen... its called the "HOLD" switch, you use it when you put it in your pocket, almost all iPod owners do it now anyway.

    so you're touting that its got a bigger screen...and costs less... great, so those are the only advantages??
    What about the music store? Zune marketplace sucks ass, iTunes has over 2 million songs, and it now has TV shows and even movies! beat THAT!

    Like i said before, if you like the zune and it works for you, great. But there is an advantage to owning an iPod.

    (oh, and another advantage, the iPod still looks damn cool... The zune, well, not so much...)
  • 03-17-2007, 07:45 PM
    emorphien
    good grief enough with the ipod fanboyism, it doesn't even have a place in this thread
  • 03-17-2007, 08:00 PM
    N. Abstentia
    I'm going to end this right now:

    audio_dude, I spent more money on my Zune than you did for your entire home speaker system. Therefore, nobody cares what you think because you're obviously clueless. Come back when you can hang with the big dogs.

    If there WAS an 80 gig Zune...you couldn't afford it.
  • 03-18-2007, 12:46 AM
    Dusty Chalk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by emorphien
    This is a Zune thread which you folks have decided to crash.

    You're the one that said 'forum', pedant.

    That said, you're right, I'm threadcrapping, and I know I hate it when haters come into my thread with their hating, so I'll stop...
  • 03-18-2007, 06:17 AM
    emorphien
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
    You're the one that said 'forum', pedant.

    That said, you're right, I'm threadcrapping, and I know I hate it when haters come into my thread with their hating, so I'll stop...

    and forum was quite appropriate, I was telling you to go somewhere that wants the kind of crap you're posting. There are plenty of iPod forums which are more appropriate for that than a general audio forum.
  • 03-18-2007, 07:12 AM
    noddin0ff
    somewhere...brain cells have died an agonizing death.
  • 03-18-2007, 02:01 PM
    audio_dude
    LOL

    N.Abtentia... shut the **** up...
    i could really ****ing care less about what you think of my speakers... and your zune did NOT cost more than my stereo...

    OK, i said the zune was fine, you like it, GREAT! personally, i like my iPod better, you like the zune, lets just agree to disagree and stop bashing each other over the head because my head hurts.

    "Therefore, nobody cares what you think because you're obviously clueless"
    This is the most insulting thing I have ever read... why are you judging me based on the fact that I've not got as much money as you? Knowledge is not shown based on the material goods one owns.

    oh, and with those active 40's you're just sooooo much better than me. I'd rather be with the mature kids than the "Big Boys" eh?
  • 03-18-2007, 02:22 PM
    audio_dude
  • 03-18-2007, 05:28 PM
    Fritz
    I realised when I went to college that I would never need the FM radio feature. Through my first few MP3 players, it was a good thing to have, cause I rarely went too far from home. But now, with 30 (or 80) gigs of music, why listen to the radio, where you are more than likely spending half your time listening to commercials. Unless I suppose if you like a certain radio show, but then just use your home stereo to listen in.

    Anyway, FYI, I ended up getting the nano ipod and e3g headphones, not because I like ipods or apple better, but because it is....well...nano. Even with a measly 2GB, I can hold most of the music I like.

    I'm not trying to bash the Zune, in fact I am interested in seeing how it evolves. Maybe there will be a Zune-nano?:idea:
  • 03-18-2007, 05:52 PM
    N. Abstentia
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio_dude
    LOL


    OK, i said the zune was fine, you like it, GREAT! personally, i like my iPod better, you like the zune, lets just agree to disagree and stop bashing each other over the head because my head hurts.

    Now that's better. Apology accepted. You may go now.

    Besides, I'm too busy with my Zune! So far I've downloaded over TEN GIGS of music with my Zune pass and it hasn't cost me a cent! They even have the new Rush!!!!
  • 03-18-2007, 05:55 PM
    audio_dude
    hey, i'm going nowhere, ...

    YOU still haven't apologized for insulting me... THATS when i'll leave your Zune thread.
  • 03-18-2007, 06:24 PM
    N. Abstentia
    Well you said yourself that you had never even SEEN a Zune, so I'm sticking with 'clueless' and I'll add 'ignorant'. This is why everyone is bashing you.
  • 03-18-2007, 06:26 PM
    emorphien
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fritz
    I'm not trying to bash the Zune, in fact I am interested in seeing how it evolves. Maybe there will be a Zune-nano?:idea:

    I think MS has hinted at more Zune products (i've seen rumors of small flash players and phones, not to mention an 80gb version of the current model).

    Personally I have found iRiver to provide more for the money, including features and sound quality. 3.5 years ago when I got my iHP-120 it had the iPod easily beat in features and sound quality and in fact it still has some features the current players can't touch when it comes to music playback.

    When I was shopping for a flash player I wound up with a 4gb Clix because it's relatively software free, small and can play videos competently. I've never fallen for the iPod hype, instead I just compare features, build reliability and price. IMO there are players worth more than the iPod in terms of features and performance but they won't sell for more because the public is so blinded by the iPod. Not that the iPod is bad, I just don't personally think it's the best but there's nobody more defensive than an iPod user it seems.
  • 03-19-2007, 01:35 PM
    audio_dude
    uhh, N.Abstentia... i've SEEN zune's, just never USED one, so i can't comment on the user experience.

    But i've used the Zune marketplace software at a friends house, and the music selection, while ecclectic, isn't really that great.


    edit: did you even get my point about why you should apologize? you insulted me by saying i'm an idiot who's opinion doesn't matter simply because my stereo doesn't meet your "requirements" in the price range...
  • 03-19-2007, 01:49 PM
    audio_dude
    N.Abstentia, 10gigs with the zune pass, great! if your happy with that payment model, its perfect! personally, i'd rather buy the CD, but for that price, its really not a bad option...

    you love the zune, great! i love my iPod, great!
    we're both happy, just say sorry for insulting me and you guys can go all you want about your zune
  • 03-19-2007, 06:21 PM
    N. Abstentia
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio_dude
    we're both happy, just say sorry for insulting me and you guys can go all you want about your zune

    Eh, we're just breaking your balls.

    Now go get your f*cking shinebox.
  • 03-20-2007, 03:19 PM
    audio_dude
    one sec, i'll one up you and get my poor-boy getup on too.

    i'm not leaving this thread alone 'till i get an apology
  • 03-20-2007, 04:39 PM
    emorphien
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio_dude
    one sec, i'll one up you and get my poor-boy getup on too.

    i'm not leaving this thread alone 'till i get an apology

    good grief
  • 03-21-2007, 02:45 PM
    audio_dude
    so i went to the local electronics store...
    ...and played with the zune for a while...

    actually, its pretty decent. screen is pretty nice, menu's are alright, things were pretty much in the right place.

    I don't really like the d-pad though, i dunno, theres just so many other innovative control methods out there... just seems archaic. but it does its job.

    it IS a little bigger and heavier, but it feel comfortable in the hand, and the plastic finish is pretty good.


    While i'm still an iPod fan, i think the zune has got my vote for the microsoft lovers and/or ipod haters looking for an alternative.
  • 03-22-2007, 04:59 PM
    N. Abstentia
    It's amazing what one can find out when one opens up one's mind.
  • 03-22-2007, 06:53 PM
    audio_dude
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    It's amazing what one can find out when one opens up one's mind.


    hmm... i'm trying to decide to take that as insulting sarcasm, or a very insightful statement...

    in the interest of wanting to pummel you in the face, i'll take the first option...


    just apologize, it makes it easier for both of us (your part being both of your eyes match...)
  • 03-23-2007, 03:31 AM
    N. Abstentia
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio_dude
    in the interest of wanting to pummel you in the face, i'll take the first option...

    Like I'm worried about getting pummeled by a 14 year old canuck AOL'er with Paradigm Atoms. Go play some hockey, you hoser.
  • 03-23-2007, 10:36 AM
    GMichael
    Wow!
    How did I miss this thread?

    Someone quick! BEER ME!
    Who's got the popcorn?
  • 03-23-2007, 12:46 PM
    GMichael
    Munch munch munch...

    WTF! What happened to all the action?

    Munch munch....................
  • 03-23-2007, 01:47 PM
    N. Abstentia
    Hey GMichael!

    I guess you've figured it out by now, but audio_dude is the new SpankingVanillaIce!
  • 03-24-2007, 08:19 AM
    audio_dude
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    Hey GMichael!

    I guess you've figured it out by now, but audio_dude is the new SpankingVanillaIce!


    nah, at least I reply to the thread...

    oh, and i LOVE hockey, eh?

    yeah, but would you like to get pummeled by a 14 year old who bench presses 200??
    Thought so.

    yeah, go ahead and discuss ur zune, i'm outta here. have fun!:5:



    (edit: here, have this 2-4 of 'canadian, beer's on me!)