Why not Universal Healthcare?

[markw]

That has been my point through predominantly through this whole d@#n thread!!

What I have been reacting to is that people who are quick to point out the shortcoming of the current administration seemingly have a short memory when it comes to the past administration or have been quoting sources with an agenda directed towards a political position rather than the issue of health care.

There is very little difference between the GOP and Dems in regards to serving the monied interests and that is again why we are facing gridlock in D.C. These proposed health care Bills are not reform but an expansion of benefits and reallocation of existing resources. Both of these are laudable goals (I agree with alot of what Cloth Ears posted) but we also need to address cost containment. Which neither side is making a serious effort at doing. All that was done this Summer was that members of both parties have made up issues not in the Bills or ignored things that are so that they could further their political agendas.

Please note the following from post 57, posted on the 23rd.

Like it or not, both sides are feeding off the trough and neither cares about the common guy. They say they do to get elected and fool a lot of people, but remember, this is a republic, not a democracy.

Those in the "in crowd" have more than what they want and need and their only goal is preserving that. They won't give anything up personally but always expect their lessors to do the sacrificing.

We've seen this with the banking and finance industry.
Who really sacrificed anything real, aside from the lowest people on the rung, the common man who bought the houses? I do believe that those above who were instrumental in creating this mess still got their obscene bonus', no?

Do you expect any different from the medical industry?

If progress is to be made here it will only be when the ruling class is forced to use the same health plan as joe sixpack.

So, unless the veiled intent of this thread was to instigate yet another pissing contest, why not concentrate on what's wrong with the health system and how to correct it.

So perhaps now you understand why I responded like I did to your post 126, yesterday, which sure to me looks a cheap shot from out of the blue.

Not that is related to this topic but you do know the bank bailout was engineered and recommended by a GOP administration...... so it is a little ironic that thesame supporters of that Administration are screaming socialism at the current Administration when it comes to reforming health care.

Now, for the most part you've been pretty up and up while others try to add to the piss level here by dragging religion into this, which has no bearing at all on this matter except to publicly disparage something they disagree with in order to keep up the piss count.

That's why your post yesterday drew the response it did.

capice?