Well now that the election is over...

[karl k]

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Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible It's not your job as a christian to approve, or disapprove anyone behavior or beliefs if you are not walking in perfection. Since nobody is, then it would be best to take your christian knowledge, apply it to yourself, incourage and nuture it in your family, and support your christian brothers and sisters. For every sin you can point out in others, an equal number of different(or same)sins can be pointed right back at you.

I absolutely agree 100%. It's when I'm asked to APPROVE of sin that I have a problem.

Don't you mean the allowance of sin? Is there a difference? Can you allow without approval? Can you approve without allowance? Isn't the difference(if there is one) what we call tolerence?

BTW, I appreciate the tone that has been conducted in your conversation with The Terrible One. It is quite fascinating to me how the two of you have such different interpretations of one book. Sure the general concensus may be the same, but the details... amazing... and yet not so.

I am a little curious though... what will happen when we have school sponsored prayer, no abortion, no birth control, no adult content(including anything with a PG or higher rating, no smoking, no drinking, no drugs(prescription or otherwise), a manditory 10% of income to the church/charity(as a function of the 10% flat tax reform),and the nation as a whole claims to believe in God, will the Republicans have an agenda to campaign on or will the vote just be automatic?

Just thinkin'.

[piece-it pete]

Don't you mean the allowance of sin? Is there a difference? Can you allow without approval? Can you approve without allowance? Isn't the difference(if there is one) what we call tolerence?

There is a large difference. What people do or don't do is on them. If I am called upon to vote for anything, anything at all, I will vote my conscience. If I believe gay "marriage" is wrong I will vote against it.

It is my right as an American.

BTW, I appreciate the tone that has been conducted in your conversation with The Terrible One. It is quite fascinating to me how the two of you have such different interpretations of one book. Sure the general concensus may be the same, but the details... amazing... and yet not so. .

Thanks, Karl. I feel I have been provoked many times, however I understand that these issues are devisive.

The Church in the US is going through a giant civil war, one that will only intensify, and that I believe will end under government control - I will be jailed for stating that being actively gay is against Gods' will.

It'll be a "hate" crime. It's happenning all over the "free" world right now. The very folks who are slamming the religious right, calling us hateful and intolerant folks, will be the ones who strip us of our freedom of both religion and speech.

They will hail it as a great victory, as the advancement of human culture and civilization. All praise the god of human hubris!!

When in reality this is a clear sign that our time as a Great Nation is coming to an end. Unfortunately the discussion of the religious issues has made it look like that is the only reason it matters - which is not true, not by a long shot.

Consider: I once read a survey of 27 cultures. As soon as the family unit breaks down, that society is on its' way out.

There were no exceptions.

I've been racking my brain trying to remember the name or author of that book, to no avail, if I remember I'll post it.

But regardless, healthy societies have strong men and virtuous women. A cursory glance at history will affirm this.

The Roman Republic was known as a nation of honest men. The Roman Empire under Caesar was not.

As a matter of fact, homosexuality was admired greatly right before the fall.

Yes, this means divorce is bad. VERY bad. However, having one bad law is no good reason to have another.

I am a little curious though... what will happen when we have school sponsored prayer, no abortion, no birth control, no adult content(including anything with a PG or higher rating, no smoking, no drinking, no drugs(prescription or otherwise), a manditory 10% of income to the church/charity(as a function of the 10% flat tax reform),and the nation as a whole claims to believe in God, will the Republicans have an agenda to campaign on or will the vote just be automatic?

Just thinkin'.

You won't see prayer in the schools anytime soon. For cryin' out loud, we're fighting just to keep "under God" in the Pledge!!

How about the money?

Most Christians don't have problems with birth control. With abortion, most do. In reality it is a huge power grab by the Judges. Like gay "marriage". There has always been stag movies, they just were not allowed IN PUBLIC. The anti-smoker crowd are the same folks arguing for gay "marriage", not us. No drinking? lol Martin Luther had a mug with level markings on it, like "The Ten Commandments", Sermon on the Mount", etc! True. And the Puritians had a higher per-capita alcohol intake than we do overall (as well as more education). I really don't see how (or why) we'd outlaw drugs.

Gov't already takes WAY more then 10%, for social programs (charity? Yes) and absolutely there will be no need to vote.



Thanks again, Karl. You're really OK, for a liberal lolol.

Pete