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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
I rechecked the PS3 settings, including the Sound settings and the BD/DVD settings and they're all set to either Auto or HDMI. When I'm playing a CD, I only get the two playback options I mentioned, and they're two channel only. The receiver's speaker indicator lights show all 8 speakers lit, so that tells me all decodes (i.e. DTS NEO: 6, DD...etc) should be available.but no matter how many times I press the Sur. Decode button on the 3800's remote, nothing changes. When I changed the HDMI in BD/DVD at the PS3 to Bitstream, no difference.
I'm playing an SACD right now and I am getting all 5.1 channels with the speaker lights on the 3800 reflecting that. I must be missing something in the receiver's settings, yes?
All 8 speaker indicators will light up if your listening to 2 channel or multi with the PS3. The AVR sees the unused channels probably due to HDMI being able to handle 8 channels. Your not in "pure direct" mode are you?
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All 8 speaker indicators will light up if your listening to 2 channel or multi with the PS3. The AVR sees the unused channels probably due to HDMI being able to handle 8 channels. Your not in "pure direct" mode are you?
I agree.
No, not in "Pure Direct", although I did use it while listening to the Genesis SACD.
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I agree.
No, not in "Pure Direct", although I did use it while listening to the Genesis SACD.
You've probably already done this but make sure your AVR's audio select is set to AUTO. You can go into the menu and set the input source to either LAST or AUTO. Toggle the audio select button to go through your various option.
Go into the PS3's audio settings menu and select manual. Check everything available and see if that works.
Would it be difficult for you to run a optical cable from your PS3 to 3800? Give that a try and see if you end up with the same problem.
I tried mine last night and had no problems using surround modes with CD playback.
Can you use your surround modes with any other sources?
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Originally Posted by L.J.
You've probably already done this but make sure your AVR's audio select is set to AUTO. You can go into the menu and set the input source to either LAST or AUTO. Toggle the audio select button to go through your various option.
Yes I checked and it's set to Auto. I verified that by selecting a different audio source (DVR) then switching back and the AVR's display indicated Auto. There's also an HDMI choice, which I tried but that didn't make any difference either.
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Go into the PS3's audio settings menu and select manual. Check everything available and see if that works.
No change.
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Would it be difficult for you to run a optical cable from your PS3 to 3800? Give that a try and see if you end up with the same problem.
I'll try that next.
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I tried mine last night and had no problems using surround modes with CD playback.
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Can you use your surround modes with any other sources?
Yup. Works fine with the DVD changer. I'll get the optical cable connected and let ya know what happens.
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Yes I checked and it's set to Auto. I verified that by selecting a different audio source (DVR) then switching back and the AVR's display indicated Auto. There's also an HDMI choice, which I tried but that didn't make any difference either.
Rich, when it says Surr. Decode on your Yammie's display screen, use your Yammie remote and press SELECT. See if that works. If it does, keep pressing select to get to whatever mode your looking for.
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Do you mean the "Enter" button between the cursor move keys, or the "Select" Up & Down arrow keys next to the Yammie remote's LCD display?
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Okay. I connected the optical cable and changed the output from the PS3 to that, and manually turned on all decodes. Went to the receiver and changed the BD audio I/O to it's corresponding output, and I'm now able to select any decode I want. I'd say right now the problem is with the HDMI config.
Next I'll move the PS3's HDMI cable to a different HDMI in at the 3800 and re-assign that input to the PS3.
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Do you mean the "Enter" button between the cursor move keys, or the "Select" Up & Down arrow keys next to the Yammie remote's LCD display?
Your remote looks just like mine but the buttons are a little different. Ok, so when listening to a CD on my PS3, I have to press SUR. DECODE(this makes sur decode appear on my Yammie screen), then by pressing SELECT(your remote doesn't seem to have that button so it must be another one) I can toggle through the various surround options.
Are you able to get the "entertainment" or "movie" effect DSP's to come up on CD playback?
Is your Yammie remote set to AMP when you press surr decode twice?
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Originally Posted by L.J.
Your remote looks just like mine but the buttons are a little different. Ok, so when listening to a CD on my PS3, I have to press SUR. DECODE(this makes sur decode appear on my Yammie screen), then by pressing SELECT(your remote doesn't seem to have that button so it must be another one) I can toggle through the various surround options.
Are you able to get the "entertainment" or "movie" effect DSP's to come up on CD playback?
Is your Yammie remote set to AMP when you press surr decode twice?
I use the SUR. DECODE button on the remote to toggle through the surround modes available and I am able to select the various DSP programs.
I went back to the PS3 and under Sound settings > Audio Output settings, I selected HDMI > Automatic > Settings List which included DD 5.1, DTS 5.1, and many Linear PCM 2 channel and 5.1 channel output formats. Then I went to Music settings and left everything alone except Audio CD Output Frequency and selected 48KHz, and turned Bitmapping off (it was on previously, but made no difference).
Next I went to BD/DVD settings and set HDMI Audio Output Format to Bitstream.
Back at the receiver, after re-selecting the HDMI output and starting a regular CD, the display indicated PCM. As far as I can tell, that's wrong. When I use my DVD changer which has the audio out set to Bitstream, I'm able to use DTS and other surround decodes.
BTW, if I set the Decoder mode on the receiver to DTS, I get a message "No DTS" on the display, and no audio.
I just switched to playing music from my PC and the same problem occurs... 2 channel only and no surround modes.
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I use the SUR. DECODE button on the remote to toggle through the surround modes available and I am able to select the various DSP programs.
I went back to the PS3 and under Sound settings > Audio Output settings, I selected HDMI > Automatic > Settings List which included DD 5.1, DTS 5.1, and many Linear PCM 2 channel and 5.1 channel output formats. Then I went to Music settings and left everything alone except Audio CD Output Frequency and selected 48KHz, and turned Bitmapping off (it was on previously, but made no difference).
Next I went to BD/DVD settings and set HDMI Audio Output Format to Bitstream.
Back at the receiver, after re-selecting the HDMI output and starting a regular CD, the display indicated PCM. As far as I can tell, that's wrong. When I use my DVD changer which has the audio out set to Bitstream, I'm able to use DTS and other surround decodes.
BTW, if I set the Decoder mode on the receiver to DTS, I get a message "No DTS" on the display, and no audio.
I just switched to playing music from my PC and the same problem occurs... 2 channel only and no surround modes.
Rich I think your correct. I apologize for misleading you. I can in fact pull up various surround modes on CD 2 channel playback but it doesn't engage. It just goes back to Sur.Decode on my AVR. I didn't pay too much attention at first and assumed I was getting surround processing. I apologize for wasting your time buddy :(
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Not all L.J. Right now I'm watching a concert DVD, which offers a DTS output @ 1.5Mbps so I'm realizing that the receiver will only pass what it gets, regardless of the PCM or Bitstream delivery method. Good learning experience. :thumbsup:.
I ordered 6 Blu-ray titles from Blockbuster so we'll see what kind of audio formats I can output.
On other fronts, I got my wireless connection set up no problems; the PS3 found my router, I entered my WEP key and off to the internet I went. I registered on the PS network, went to the Playstation store and didn't buy ANYTHING!!!
And I must say the 480 to 1080p upconversion is quite remarkable. I WUV my 57" 1080p HDTV!!! :biggrin5:
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(peeks in room and sees all the fun...mutters and grumbles to himself...sulks and walks away....)
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Kex,
Your time will come. And so will that monster screen in 1080p. Half the fun is in the planning. Enjoy this half to it's fullest.
Tex,
Looks like you are having fun with your new toy. Congrats.
LJ,
You seem to be having as much fun helping Tex as he is.
Looks like one big happy family.:14:
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Not all L.J. Right now I'm watching a concert DVD, which offers a DTS output @ 1.5Mbps so I'm realizing that the receiver will only pass what it gets, regardless of the PCM or Bitstream delivery method. Good learning experience. :thumbsup:.
I ordered 6 Blu-ray titles from Blockbuster so we'll see what kind of audio formats I can output.
On other fronts, I got my wireless connection set up no problems; the PS3 found my router, I entered my WEP key and off to the internet I went. I registered on the PS network, went to the Playstation store and didn't buy ANYTHING!!!
And I must say the 480 to 1080p upconversion is quite remarkable. I WUV my 57" 1080p HDTV!!! :biggrin5:
Cool, glad everything is working out. You should be streaming in no time :thumbsup:
Setting up the NYKO remote is pretty simple. Logitech has it in their database already. Mine is set up as a separate game console. Under Devices click "add device", select "game console(with DVD) from the pull down menu and select NYKO as the manufacturer. Type "Blu-Wave" for the model and your all set up.
I created a "PS3" activity on my activities list and just added the Bluwave to it.
BTW, you may want to go ahead and set your BR/DVD HDMI audio settings back to PCM and just let the PS3 decode everything. All the switching back and fourth is gonna get old after awhile. Hopefully they will update the PS3 and have it switch to DTSMA & TrueHD decoding automatically. You can hit display on your remote to see what sound is being output with full bitrate info, since your only gonna see MPCM on your Yammie.
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This message is brought to by my PS3!
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Cool, glad everything is working out. You should be streaming in no time :thumbsup:
Thanks as always for your help dude. :yesnod:
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Originally Posted by Sir LJ3
Setting up the NYKO remote is pretty simple. Logitech has it in their database already. Mine is set up as a separate game console. Under Devices click "add device", select "game console(with DVD) from the pull down menu and select NYKO as the manufacturer. Type "Blu-Wave" for the model and your all set up.
I created a "PS3" activity on my activities list and just added the Bluwave to it.
Done!
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BTW, you may want to go ahead and set your BR/DVD HDMI audio settings back to PCM and just let the PS3 decode everything. All the switching back and fourth is gonna get old after awhile. Hopefully they will update the PS3 and have it switch to DTSMA & TrueHD decoding automatically. You can hit display on your remote to see what sound is being output with full bitrate info, since your only gonna see MPCM on your Yammie.
Good idea. Am I able to perform multiple activities simultaneously (i.e. play a DVD and browse the playstation store)?
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Good idea. Am I able to perform multiple activities simultaneously (i.e. play a DVD and browse the playstation store)?
Some activities yes, some no. Once you go into the PS store, everything will close out. You can do things like browse the web while streaming music. I usually do a photo slide show for family while playing music in the background. You can also do stuff while playing a game. I'm not sure about when watching a movie. You may have to close out of it. You have to use your controller for this though which to me is easier anyways. The NYKO doesn't have a PS button to pull up and toggle different activities. I'm guesses Sony can fix this though. They did add a shut down button. Sony adds new features all the time.
If you want to change your PS3 background, you can add your own photos & place them as wallpaper or you can google up "PS3 Themes" to find a bunch of PS3 theme sites. Download directly from your PS3 browser and install it from the "Theme Settings" on your XMB. My favorite site is allps3themes.com. I didn't do a link because some of the themes aren't family friendly.
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Some activities yes, some no. Once you go into the PS store, everything will close out. You can do things like browse the web while streaming music.
And you can toggle between the browser and the Home screen by pressing the Home ("PS3") button. Next question: How to I make the Information board in the top right corner disappear?
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I usually do a photo slide show for family while playing music in the background. You can also do stuff while playing a game. I'm not sure about when watching a movie. You may have to close out of it. You have to use your controller for this though which to me is easier anyways. The NYKO doesn't have a PS button to pull up and toggle different activities. I'm guesses Sony can fix this though. They did add a shut down button. Sony adds new features all the time.
Definitely a limitation that I noticed just now. It would be convenient to have a Home button on my 880.
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If you want to change your PS3 background, you can add your own photos & place them as wallpaper or you can google up "PS3 Themes" to find a bunch of PS3 theme sites. Download directly from your PS3 browser and install it from the "Theme Settings" on your XMB. My favorite site is allps3themes.com. I didn't do a link because some of the themes aren't family friendly.
:ihih:
Maybe not "family friendly", but... you can guess the rest. :biggrin5:
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And you can toggle between the browser and the Home screen by pressing the Home ("PS3") button. Next question: How to I make the Information board in the top right corner disappear?
Select Information Board from Network on your XMB, and then press the triangle button. Select Do Not Display from the options menu.
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Definitely a limitation that I noticed just now. It would be convenient to have a Home button on my 880.
I agree but I'm sure Sony will eventually get to this. They would simply need to add a "Home" button to the options menu. I find the controller easier to navigate online though. Iactually like to use my BR remote when streaming. I can walk around the house and still change tracks. Can't do that with IR :thumbsup:
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Maybe not "family friendly", but... you can guess the rest. :biggrin5:
Oh boy, what did I start :p
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Select Information Board from Network on your XMB, and then press the triangle button. Select Do Not Display from the options menu.
I tried that, but there's no option to not display it. The only options I have from that menu are for language selection.
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I agree but I'm sure Sony will eventually get to this. They would simply need to add a "Home" button to the options menu. I find the controller easier to navigate online though. Iactually like to use my BR remote when streaming. I can walk around the house and still change tracks. Can't do that with IR :thumbsup:
I didn't even realize that. I'd already removed the batteries and stored it away.
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Oh boy, what did I start :p
You shoulda thought of that before you talked me into buying a PS3! :incazzato:
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I tried that, but there's no option to not display it. The only options I have from that menu are for language selection.
Select your language then go back to it and hit triangle again.
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I didn't even realize that. I'd already removed the batteries and stored it away.
Wrong remote. I'm talking about this one. Bluetooth.
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You shoulda thought of that before you talked me into buying a PS3! :incazzato:
I give it 2 weeks before you start suggesting it to others. Now I'll let you get back to searching for themes :ciappa:
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Select your language then go back to it and hit triangle again.
Perfect! Now can see Ann Angel's big hazzle eyes! :devil:
Oh. That's the Sony remote. No more remotes for me! :nonod:
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I give it 2 weeks before you start suggesting it to others. Now I'll let you get back to searching for themes :ciappa:
Always first giving credit where credit's due though, right? :cool:
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When I have my browser open, I'd like to have the options (navigation) menu open automatically and stay open during the entire session. Is that possible?
When I pick a menu item, sometimes the "options" icon appears in the bottom right corner. That's fine, but it also contains the white wrench (setup?) icon. Why is that?
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When I have my browser open, I'd like to have the options (navigation) menu open automatically and stay open during the entire session. Is that possible?
Are you talking about the slide bar that come out when you press triangle? Or the keyboard/address thing that pops up when you press start?
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When I pick a menu item, sometimes the "options" icon appears in the bottom right corner. That's fine, but it also contains the white wrench (setup?) icon. Why is that?
What category are you under? Music? Video? Does it happen under every category?
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Are you talking about the slide bar that come out when you press triangle? Or the keyboard/address thing that pops up when you press start?
Looks like my questions are too vague...
When I start up the browser session, I then hit Triangle, which opens what you're calling a "slide bar". This gives me navagation options just like a Windows IE toolbar. The way it is now, if, after opening it I move to highlight the Back option, the browser responds and the Slide Bar disappears, I'd prefer having access to those tolls without always having to press the Triangle again to bring them back.
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What category are you under? Music? Video? Does it happen under every category?
Dude, I just finished watching "Men in Black" ...in Blu, It was awesome! The DolbyTrueHD audio was awesome.
:yikes:
I think I have my first issue. I'm trying to install MGS4, but after I load the disk, it progresses as far as a screen which displays this text:
"This game saves data automatically at certain points. Do not switch off the PS3 system when the HDD access indicator is flashing."
The only other thing on the screen is a purple X, and at this point nothing happens until I hit the PS button, then quit the game. Looks like I'm going to be testing Sony CS tomorrow. :10:
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Looks like my questions are too vague...
When I start up the browser session, I then hit Triangle, which opens what you're calling a "slide bar". This gives me navagation options just like a Windows IE toolbar. The way it is now, if, after opening it I move to highlight the Back option, the browser responds and the Slide Bar disappears, I'd prefer having access to those tolls without always having to press the Triangle again to bring them back.
Dude, I just finished watching "Men in Black" ...in Blu, It was awesome! The DolbyTrueHD audio was awesome.
:yikes:
I think I have my first issue. I'm trying to install MGS4, but after I load the disk, it progresses as far as a screen which displays this text:
"This game saves data automatically at certain points. Do not switch off the PS3 system when the HDD access indicator is flashing."
The only other thing on the screen is a purple X, and at this point nothing happens until I hit the PS button, then quit the game. Looks like I'm going to be testing Sony CS tomorrow. :10:
Did you try hitting the "X" button at this time? If that fails, try the > right arrow key.
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Did you try hitting the "X" button at this time? If that fails, try the > right arrow key.
Yes. Nothing happened. I pressed the right arrow key, the Select key, and then just about every other key randomly and nothing happened. I went into Setup and turned Parental Controls off, Auto-start when the disk is inserted (forget the actual command name) and any other setting I thought might be relevant, but no joy. The only way out is the PS button.
FYI... I was using the included Dualshock controller the entire time.
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Looks like my questions are too vague...
When I start up the browser session, I then hit Triangle, which opens what you're calling a "slide bar". This gives me navagation options just like a Windows IE toolbar. The way it is now, if, after opening it I move to highlight the Back option, the browser responds and the Slide Bar disappears, I'd prefer having access to those tolls without always having to press the Triangle again to bring them back.
I don't think you can keep it up. I think this is because most of the common functions can be controlled with the press of a button. Zoom in, exit, previous screen....all that good stuff.
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Dude, I just finished watching "Men in Black" ...in Blu, It was awesome! The DolbyTrueHD audio was awesome.
Give I,Robot a try:)
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I think I have my first issue. I'm trying to install MGS4, but after I load the disk, it progresses as far as a screen which displays this text:
"This game saves data automatically at certain points. Do not switch off the PS3 system when the HDD access indicator is flashing."
The only other thing on the screen is a purple X, and at this point nothing happens until I hit the PS button, then quit the game. Looks like I'm going to be testing Sony CS tomorrow. :10:
Things just don't go easy for ya :(
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I don't think you can keep it up. I think this is because most of the common functions can be controlled with the press of a button. Zoom in, exit, previous screen....all that good stuff.
I've always been big on using buttons when I'm in a MS Windows environment since it's easier to remember something when you can look at it on your screen, so I tend not to use keyboard shortcuts much. Guess that changes here though. It hasn't completely sunk in yet that I'm not using a computer.
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Give I,Robot a try:)
Looks like I'm going to be getting my money's worth out of Blockbuster in August. :yesnod: MiB may very well go into my Blu-ray collection just because of Will Smith's performance. BTW, he's from South Philly... right across the river from where I grew up. Ain't that special? :biggrin5:
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Things just don't go easy for ya :(
Frickin' UPS driver probably tossed my PS3 off the back of the truck when he delivered it! :incazzato:
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PS3 update 2.42 is out today:
http://teamholeshot.com/PS32.42.jpg
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New for 2.42: Playability of some PLAYSTATION®3 and PlayStation® format software has been improved.
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Just installed it. Didn't fix my problem though.
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Just installed it. Didn't fix my problem though.
Hmm...maybe you should send me that game so I can test it out for ya :ciappa:
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You're not helping me!
:cryin: :cryin: :cryin:
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You could pick up another game and see if that one works.
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I'm seriously thiinking about doing that. I could pick up MG "Essentials" locally, which is recommended in order to get a better idea of the storyline of the game.
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Most of the down loadable games are on sale right now. Bowling and Pain are only 4.99 each.
If you don't have a wireless router, a cat5 or cat6 wire will work just fine. I picked up a 50 cat6 for cheap and used that until the wife got tired of it going down the hall.
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Rich, did you ever get a hold of CS?
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Rich, did you ever get a hold of CS?
Just got off the phone with them. The guy had me do a System Restore and after entering the settings again, I inserted the game disk but the same thing happened. He suggested I take the game to a store and try it in thier PS3, or try running another game. Sucks that I don't have another game disk, but I'll run out to Fry's in a while.
He gave me a Service Request number so if all else fails I'll probably have to send the system in for repair. That's NOT something I want to see happen.
BTW, I didn't have much confidence in the expertise of the unit I spoke with on the phone. :nonod:
BTW2, what does "ATRAC" stand for? I have it enabled.
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Mail order, maybe not so much for you, eh?
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Just got off the phone with them. The guy had me do a System Restore and after entering the settings again, I inserted the game disk but the same thing happened. He suggested I take the game to a store and try it in thier PS3, or try running another game. Sucks that I don't have another game disk, but I'll run out to Fry's in a while.
He gave me a Service Request number so if all else fails I'll probably have to send the system in for repair. That's NOT something I want to see happen.
BTW, I didn't have much confidence in the expertise of the unit I spoke with on the phone. :nonod:
BTW2, what does "ATRAC" stand for? I have it enabled.
ATRAC was Sony's proprietary audio codec...Sony's "mp3" if you will...not sure if that's what is on the PS3?
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