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    Private Property decision in us supreme court

    private property rights in the us are done, in case you didnt know. the supreme court voted 5--4 to allow the gov'mint to seize your property to give it to large developers for more tax revenue. I believe this is thte most important ruling in many many years, and is the death knell for this country. Any thoughts, especially for those who AGREE with this ridiculous decision?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomurdA
    private property rights in the us are done, in case you didnt know. the supreme court voted 5--4 to allow the gov'mint to seize your property to give it to large developers for more tax revenue. I believe this is thte most important ruling in many many years, and is the death knell for this country. Any thoughts, especially for those who AGREE with this ridiculous decision?
    I posted the NYTimes article on this decision earlier. Of course my title didn't say much about the substance of the post. It just warned folks to spruce up their home.

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    unbelievable

    I really can't believe they passed this. Even more, I can't even believe it was even an issue up for voting!!!

    I'm truly speechless

    Quote Originally Posted by MomurdA
    private property rights in the us are done, in case you didnt know. the supreme court voted 5--4 to allow the gov'mint to seize your property to give it to large developers for more tax revenue. I believe this is thte most important ruling in many many years, and is the death knell for this country. Any thoughts, especially for those who AGREE with this ridiculous decision?

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    So much for...

    ...the old "home being your castle" myth, eh? I mean they could always "condemn" your property for public works, but this "private enterprise in the public good" BS is definitely stretching the concept of eminent domain a bit further than any strict constructionist could possibly tolerate...

    This ain't gonna' be good...I can see BIG problems ahead...I hesitate to even mention w-a-c-o, but what can these @$$hole b@stards in DC possibly be thinking...are they thinkin' like Lincoln and trying to foment another civil war...there are an awful lot of folks out there just lookin' for any excuse.

    All I can say is, write your senators and congressmen...remember it's "of the people, by the people, for the people". F*CK the suits!!!

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    I always hated those folks who spelled America with a K, but...

    So long, Land of the Free, Home of the Brave. Welcome Land of the, well, maybe, a little free, well, enough to make us think so anyway, and home of the, well, really nice people who haven't a clue and don't really care as long as we're ok.

    I've said it repeatedly, the judiciary is out of control and needs to be smacked down - HARD.

    To rehash a few quotes:

    "It has long been my opinion, and I have never shrunk from its expression,... that the germ of dissolution of our Federal Government is in the constitution of the Federal Judiciary--an irresponsible body (for impeachment is scarcely a scare-crow), working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief over the field of jurisdiction until all shall be usurped from the States and the government be consolidated into one. To this I am opposed."

    "It is a misnomer to call a government republican in which a branch of the supreme power is independent of the nation. "

    "The great object of my fear is the Federal Judiciary. That body, like gravity, ever acting with noiseless foot and unalarming advance, gaining ground step by step and holding what it gains, is engulfing insidiously the special governments into the jaws of that which feeds them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by piece-it pete
    I always hated those folks who spelled America with a K, but...

    So long, Land of the Free, Home of the Brave. Welcome Land of the, well, maybe, a little free, well, enough to make us think so anyway, and home of the, well, really nice people who haven't a clue and don't really care as long as we're ok.

    I've said it repeatedly, the judiciary is out of control and needs to be smacked down - HARD.

    To rehash a few quotes:

    "It has long been my opinion, and I have never shrunk from its expression,... that the germ of dissolution of our Federal Government is in the constitution of the Federal Judiciary--an irresponsible body (for impeachment is scarcely a scare-crow), working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief over the field of jurisdiction until all shall be usurped from the States and the government be consolidated into one. To this I am opposed."

    "It is a misnomer to call a government republican in which a branch of the supreme power is independent of the nation. "

    "The great object of my fear is the Federal Judiciary. That body, like gravity, ever acting with noiseless foot and unalarming advance, gaining ground step by step and holding what it gains, is engulfing insidiously the special governments into the jaws of that which feeds them."

    Thomas Jefferson

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    life time appointments vs. judicial elections

    I prefer judicial elections. But pure, partisan elections have their negatives too. Our state's pure, partisan election system for judges has come under recent attack. Those attacks are based on the huge amounts of money going into these elections to ostensibly influence or control the courts. A middle-of-the-road approach is probably needed, but I still like it better than life-time appointments.

    With the recent attacks on the federal judiciary, why hasn't there been a push for a Constitutional amendment to change the selection process? Is it because there's an unwillingness to give up appointment powers? It seems that when a problem or issue arises that ONLY an amendment can address, there's no call for an amendment.

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    Hmmm we've got elected judges here in Ohio too and it's a real mess, they want to go back to appointments!

    Last election cycle there was a commercial, showed the greek lady Justice holding her scales, peeking lol.

    Although I use Jeffersons' statements often I don't TOTALLY agree. Since the judges are appointed by the chief rep of the people, the Pres, and confirmed by the Senate there is/should be some reflection of the people in there somewhere.

    So it as always comes down to Franklins' statement, "A democracy, if you can keep it".

    It never ceases to amaze me, how perceptive those guys were. It always ends up being OUR fault for not being astute about protecting our hard earned freedom.

    So it comes down to the folks we vote for. Partisan? Me?



    Well yep. Even if the Reps get a judge in since Bork they don't dare nominate real cons. I mean "real" not nec. Dem or Rep. We've got to nominate folks with no real track record. Then they get in, grow a social conscience and trash the Constitution. Aarrgh that makes me angry, Reps or Dems.

    Activist judges do far more damage than constructionists, we could use judges who leave to the legislature what belongs there, and leave to the states what is contractually theirs.

    Jims' got it right imho, time to lay into the Senators and the Pres. It won't do any good, though, if the next time a nominee comes up with real conservative track record everyone screams and moans about it.

    Just my .02.

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    Well I'm downright confused.

    Big surprise!

    I thought the Constitution only applied to the Federal gov't.

    Perhaps one of those legal types could clue me in to this - 'cause if so the Dems are right and shifting my paradigm may blow the clutch!

    What am I missing?

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