• 02-06-2010, 06:46 PM
    Mr Peabody
    No, Norton is more like Krell, because they are both tops in their field everyone likes to hate on them. :)
  • 02-06-2010, 08:36 PM
    JoeE SP9
    Another vote for Avira here. I was using AVG until about 6 months ago. Avira is now my choice.
  • 02-06-2010, 10:42 PM
    02audionoob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
    No, Norton is more like Krell, because they are both tops in their field everyone likes to hate on them. :)

    Not all that bad of a comeback.:sosp:
  • 02-07-2010, 08:40 AM
    Ajani
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
    No, Norton is more like Krell,

    So how is that different from Bose? :biggrin5:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
    because they are both tops in their field everyone likes to hate on them. :)

    Seriously though, I don't think it's as simple as people love to hate on Krell... I suspect it's more a case of people having unrealistic expectations of Krell... Krell's gear is legendary (no doubt for good reason) and people will buy Krell simply because of the name... Which is often a mistake, since there is no universally loved product in Hi-Fi - as we all have our preferences... So the persons who were disappointed with their purchase, sell the Krell on Audiogon and start hating on it... This same thing happens for just about any product that gets a great rave in a Hi-Fi mag:

    Monitor Audio RS6
    AKG K701
    Marantz SA8001
    Benchmark DAC1
    Naim Nait 5i
    Odyssey Audio Khartago

    All of these products were raved about in hifi mags... then people purchased these items without really auditioning them... many were disappointed and became haters of the products and the hifi mags...
  • 02-07-2010, 08:41 AM
    Ajani
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoeE SP9
    Another vote for Avira here. I was using AVG until about 6 months ago. Avira is now my choice.

    Audiophiles with more refined tastes choose Avira.... :devil:
  • 02-07-2010, 11:22 AM
    poppachubby
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ajani
    This same thing happens for just about any product that gets a great rave in a Hi-Fi mag:

    Monitor Audio RS6
    AKG K701
    Marantz SA8001
    Benchmark DAC1
    Naim Nait 5i
    Odyssey Audio Khartago

    All of these products were raved about in hifi mags... then people purchased these items without really auditioning them... many were disappointed and became haters of the products and the hifi mags...

    I think the Benchmark is loved universally. Sure, some might hate it, but the ratio would be low I'm sure.
  • 02-07-2010, 11:37 AM
    Ajani
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by poppachubby
    I think the Benchmark is loved universally. Sure, some might hate it, but the ratio would be low I'm sure.

    Not even the Benchmark is loved universally... All the pro reviews I've seen for it are positive... but a lot of user reviews are quite nasty.... I've seen threads in other forums that were for the most part just straight bashing of the DAC1.... It gets a lot of hate from consumers (especially persons who love the sound of tubed DACs).....
  • 02-07-2010, 07:01 PM
    blackraven
    Why would you even consider a DAC1 if you like the tube sound. The DAC1 has been compared to the 840c in sound but just a bit rougher around the edges. Niether one gives a warm sound. They give a clean, detailed sound that leans slightly to the brighter side.
  • 02-07-2010, 07:06 PM
    Mr Peabody
    How will the DAC-1 protect my computer from internet harm?
  • 02-07-2010, 07:30 PM
    Ajani
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackraven
    Why would you even consider a DAC1 if you like the tube sound.

    Exactly the point... Many people just buy because a product was raved about, without giving real thought to what it will sound like in their system.... The DAC1 is brilliant if you are looking for neutral and detailed.... If you want warm, tubey, etc then it will be a poor choice....
  • 02-07-2010, 07:32 PM
    Ajani
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
    How will the DAC-1 protect my computer from internet harm?

    By making you spend more time listening to sweet tunes and less time surfing for internet porn... It's a proactive approach to virus protection....
  • 02-07-2010, 07:36 PM
    yvangkwheng
    i recommend u guy to give a shot at using norton32 or avast for free. they rock at virus-killing ability.
  • 02-08-2010, 11:08 AM
    In addition to the Pro versions of the free AVG, Avira, and Avast apps mentioned above, there are other highly rated Shareware programs that will not set you back as much as Norton or McAfee, or that have a more liberal licensing policy. Of these I've only used ZoneAlarm, but there's a few others that merit a closer look:

    - ZoneAlarm
    - Vipre
    - Trend-Micro
    - Auslogics

    In the end, if you're really paranoid about viruses, have a fast computer, and know how to configure them properly, you could easily run more than one real-time scanner at a time. And not to overplug them, but I still use both my licenses of Kaspersky and ESet/Nod32 as they typically do a better job than the bigger guys.
  • 02-08-2010, 04:27 PM
    poppachubby
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackraven
    Why would you even consider a DAC1 if you like the tube sound. The DAC1 has been compared to the 840c in sound but just a bit rougher around the edges. Niether one gives a warm sound. They give a clean, detailed sound that leans slightly to the brighter side.

    Are you talking to me?! Either way, I use a NOS dac with a TDA 1543 chip/DIR 9001, old school and smooth as it gets.
  • 02-08-2010, 07:05 PM
    blackraven
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by poppachubby
    Are you talking to me?! Either way, I use a NOS dac with a TDA 1543 chip/DIR 9001, old school and smooth as it gets.

    Nope, just in general! Just thinking out loud.
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