If we are safer now that Saddam is captured...

[bturk667]

then how come the raise to alert status Orange? This is the first time in six months that we are at orange.

[JSE]

Yes, the world is a safer place without Saddam, but Saddam was not the end-all capture to end terrorism. I think he was a big financial contributor and supporter of terrosist but I don't think he was a leader like Osama is. Saddam was just a step in the right direction. The terrosist threat is still there. It's not as strong and organized as it once was, but it's still there. The biggest problem we face is that a small handful of people can cause major problems if they know what they are doing. It's hard to track individuals throughout the world.

JSE

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[Pat D]

then how come the raise to alert status Orange? This is the first time in six months that we are at orange.

I am glad Saddam was captured, but I surely don't know how it makes us safer in any significant sense. Saddam was not a major threat even before the war, much less after. And the Orange Alert tends to support your thesis. But this is not what many people want to hear.

[Smokey]

One can not uproot terrorism without Palestine/Israel issue being solved. That is the most de stabilizing factor in the middle east and has been for last 50 years. These guys rather blow each other up than live in peace, and I don't think it will be solved without some type of foreign intervention.

[tugmcmartin]

Well, it is indisputable that Hussein was at least pursuing WMD. Given his history of using chem weapons on his own people and invading other countries unprovoked, i'd say that the world is a safer place without him in power than it is with him in power. Now, did we have the authority to go in and remove him from power? That's another question entirely.

As for your question why the orange terror alert despite Saddam being in custody, i'd say that Hussein was never the primary terrorist threat to the US, so catching him wouldn't necessarily guarantee that we'd be safe from terrorism. Like someone else said, there are still terror threats out there (OBL just to name one).

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[trollgirl]

A friend sent me an e-mail with a link to a news item that stated that the administration had pushed some nasty provisions of Patriot II thru as riders, and that the Prez has signed them into law on the day that Saddam was "captured". So's no one would notice. Here's the link:

http://www.sacurrent.com/site/news.c...d=482778&rfi=6

Well, maybe not a link, but it can be keyed in. It's well worth reading.

Laz

[RGA]

A friend sent me an e-mail with a link to a news item that stated that the administration had pushed some nasty provisions of Patriot II thru as riders, and that the Prez has signed them into law on the day that Saddam was "captured". So's no one would notice. Here's the link:

http://www.sacurrent.com/site/news.c...d=482778&rfi=6

Well, maybe not a link, but it can be keyed in. It's well worth reading.

Laz

Every time I read an article like that I always think of that movie "Wag the Dog."

Never trust a politician...does not matter if they are republican or democrat.

same thing happened here in Canada. Jean Chretien, our former PM, has shady little deals with France. Canada stays out of the war on terror in Iraq(Though we are in Afghanistan) because jean's in bed with Chirac who had huge financial interest in Iraq under Hussein.

So we get the left wingers praising our left wing government for not goiing in because it's morally wrong but in fact it was due to greed. After all Canada is the number one Uranium and nuclear reactor builder going...if the US doesn't let em have em...we can't sell em.

Ohh what a tangled mess of lies and deceit. Everyone who bithes and whines about the US, and I do too sometimes over their horrible handling of foreign affairs under Bush, should stop whining. All of the Eurpean first world countries should get together with China and stop importing anything to the US and refuse to buy anything from the US. Shut the US completely out of their markets. "McDonalds, Coke, Nike...You have 1 month to get the hell out." The countries whine and snivel but THEY are the ones who wanted the MONEY these companies generate. Those countries have GREED and screw their own people over and then have the gaul to blame the US for their substandard working conditions etc. The US may be bad for taking advantage, but puhleeze. We live in such a "blame everyone else for my plight" attitude.

America is a rather cold culture not unlike the Ferengi of Star Trek. Buy sell trade and step on everyone to get the top of the financial mountain at any and all costs. Don't like move the hell out out...if that's you bag move the hell in - buy a gun so you go out at night and live in a prison(gated communities) if you wish.

Why must America solve the Palestian/Israel problem. Let the two kill each other. sooner or later they may actually learn something or Israel will finally get pushed so hard they will go in and flatten the place. What Palestine wants they are never going to get. People can gripe and argue over this 1962 or 1947 treaty all they want but Israelies ae not moving out...Palestine's rulers would like all Jews DEAD. We all know it, you cannot appease them by giving up a bit of land now because in five years they'll pull a nutty Hitler and commit genocide.

The Israelies occupy because at this point they have no real choice anymore so all you get is tit for tat. Can't blame the Palestinians for wanting breathing room either. If we could take the religions out of the equation from the right wing nuts under Bush(and if you're this religious then it always impacts on the politics), to the whacko beliefs of Muslims, Mormons etc.

Power hungry religious wars. Land and religion. Any other reason for war...can't think of one off hand.

[bturk667]

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