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    This is disgusting!

    The dermatologist's name is Dong? Are they making this stuff up?!


    BEIJING (AFP) - Used condoms are being recycled into hair bands in southern China, threatening to spread sexually-transmittable diseases they were originally meant to prevent, state media reported Tuesday.

    In the latest example of potentially harmful Chinese-made products, rubber hair bands have been found in local markets and beauty salons in Dongguan and Guangzhou cities in southern Guangdong province, China Daily newspaper said.

    "These cheap and colourful rubber bands and hair ties sell well ... threatening the health of local people," it said.

    Despite being recycled, the hair bands could still contain bacteria and viruses, it said.

    "People could be infected with AIDS, (genital) warts or other diseases if they hold the rubber bands or strings in their mouths while waving their hair into plaits or buns," the paper quoted a local dermatologist who gave only his surname, Dong, as saying.

    A bag of ten of the recycled bands sells for just 25 fen (three cents), much cheaper than others on the market, accounting for their popularity, the paper said.

    A government official was quoted as saying recycling condoms was illegal.

    China's manufacturing industry has been repeatedly tarnished this year by a string of scandals involving shoddy or dangerous goods made for both domestic and foreign markets.

    In response, it launched a public relations blitz this summer aimed at playing up efforts to strengthen monitoring systems.

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    Yuck!!!

    please, I still gotta have my dessert...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    The dermatologist's name is Dong? Are they making this stuff up?!

    maybe, I can't see you being infected with aids through your hair. especially not when it came out of a condom, since they contain a substance to kill the viruses...


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    A few questions from me:

    1) Don't they melt them down before they're made into anything else?
    2) Who's job is it to collect all the used units?
    3) When does this air on "Dirty Jobs?"
    4) Do you surf the web-news to brings these gems to us?
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    Clearly some of the worst "journalism" in recent memory and looks to be contrived for shock value. No real sources and a lot of "could". Any reputable doctor isn't going to risk public panic by unequivocally stating something so blatantly false.

    Modern standards of journalism call for multiple points of confirmation which this clearly lacks. Actually good modern journalism, though increasingly rare, usually calls for there to actually be an event as well not just open-ended, unattributed conjecture. I mean I could be kidnapped tonight, whisked away by supersonic jet to Thailand for a sex change operation and be the Queen of Bhutan by the end of the week...but I'm feeling pretty safe.

    Frankly, this strikes me as someone with an anti-government agenda be it from the left or the right.

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    This was on Yahoo's home page! Here's the link if you don't believe me. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/07111...ondoms_offbeat

    Here's another strange one. At least this one sounds believable.

    CALGARY (CBC) - A controversial new treatment, which involves the transplantation of human waste, can treat cases of C. difficile infection. But only a handful of physicians in Canada undertake the messy procedure.

    Clostridium difficile is a superbug that commonly spreads in hospital settings and has been linked to the deaths of at least 2,000 people in Quebec since 2003, as well as in other provinces.

    Though C. difficile can be kept in check by good bacteria in the bowel, problems can arise when the superbug is treated by antibiotics such as vancomycin. The antibiotics sometimes wipe out the good bacteria but fail to completely kill the C. difficile - leaving enough of it that it later flourishes.

    "If you wipe out the normal bacteria by taking an antibiotic, then this bug overgrows and it releases a toxin which causes severe diarrhea," Dr. Mike Silverman, an internal medicine specialist from Ajax, Ont., told CBC News.

    According to him, the diarrhea can become chronic day after day and month after month. "It's painful, people can't get on with their lives ... and if doctors can't keep a patient hydrated and nourished, it can be deadly."

    Calgary resident Dorothy Badry battled C. difficile for almost a year in 2004.

    "You are going to the bathroom at least 40 times a day. And there is a lot of pain associated with that. Your skin starts to break down and the process is extremely painful."

    During that time, Badry could not work and could not care for her disabled daughter. "I basically had to give up everything," she said.

    Calgary doctor is one of few doing transplants

    Fecal transplants have become the first-line treatment for chronic recurrent C. difficile in Scandinavia. As well, more and more doctors are using it in the United States.

    Studies that been published show that more than 90 per cent of patients are cured through fecal transplants - most of them after just one treatment.

    But only a handful of doctors in Canada are willing to undertake the unpleasant procedure which involves taking a healthy person's fecal matter and transplanting it into a person infected with C. difficile.

    They cite sanitation reasons for their hesitation.

    Calgary physician Dr. Tom Louie, head of infection control at Foothills Hospital, is one of the few physicians in Canada who treats patients with chronic C. difficile with fecal transplants, or fecal therapy. He has done 38 procedures to date.

    The procedure involves getting a close relative of the patient, such as a sibling, to donate several days-worth of stool. Louie tests the stool for diseases such as hepatitis and HIV and then mixes it with saline to create liquid feces. He then administers the stool to the patient through a barium enema.

    Louie said the technique allows good bacteria from the transplanted stool to reduce the number of C. difficile bacteria in the intestines and to restore normal intestinal function.

    He said the process is fairly quick.

    "It takes me about an hour and I leave it in there overnight. I'm hoping that some of these normal bugs will come and find a home, and when they find a home it will kick out the C. difficile."

    'It cured me,' Toronto woman says

    Marcia Munro, a Toronto resident, received a fecal transplant from her sister Wendy Sinukoff after suffering from C. difficile for 14 months several years ago.

    "I had to collect stool samples for five days prior to our leaving Toronto, and I collected it in an ice cream container and kept it in the fridge," said Sinukoff.

    She had to then fly the samples to Calgary so that Louie could transplant it into her sister - a process that involved getting the sample through airport security.

    "My biggest fear was that my samples were not allowed to be frozen, so I had to take them as carry-on luggage in the airplane and I was terrified that I was going to be asked to have my luggage searched," she said.

    Munro said the transplant was a success.

    "It cured me. This procedure cured me and one of reasons I agreed to do this story - because it's difficult to talk about - is I know many people die from C. difficile and I want people to know there is hope when you have this illness."

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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    maybe, I can't see you being infected with aids through your hair. especially not when it came out of a condom, since they contain a substance to kill the viruses...


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    He wasn't saying that you could catch something from your hair. He was saying that if you put the hairband in your mouth to hold it while you get the ponytail ready. I do that all the time. I think I'll stop. Then again, I don't use condoms to tie my hair back.

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    Though involving sensitive subject matter this was real investigatory journalism, complete with real sources, actual events and attributed information.





    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn

    Calgary resident Dorothy Badry battled C. difficile for almost a year in 2004.

    "You are going to the bathroom at least 40 times a day. And there is a lot of pain associated with that. Your skin starts to break down and the process is extremely painful."

    During that time, Badry could not work and could not care for her disabled daughter. "I basically had to give up everything," she said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
    There are trailer parks in Canada?
    Am I missing a reference somewhere? Why are you asking that?

    The short answer is...yes, but as far as I know they are much smaller and less frequent than in the US. Its too cold up here to want to spend the winter in a trailer. Brrrrrrr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
    Clearly some of the worst "journalism" in recent memory and looks to be contrived for shock value. No real sources and a lot of "could". Any reputable doctor isn't going to risk public panic by unequivocally stating something so blatantly false.

    Modern standards of journalism call for multiple points of confirmation which this clearly lacks. Actually good modern journalism, though increasingly rare, usually calls for there to actually be an event as well not just open-ended, unattributed conjecture. I mean I could be kidnapped tonight, whisked away by supersonic jet to Thailand for a sex change operation and be the Queen of Bhutan by the end of the week...but I'm feeling pretty safe.

    Frankly, this strikes me as someone with an anti-government agenda be it from the left or the right.
    Bob,
    Remember, this is China. Not exactly the bastion of open journalism. Sometimes in order to get your story out, you cannot devulge the things we expect to lend credibility to the story. If you do, well you know what the Chinese do to folks who create waves, they disappear. Imagine if journal there followed what you said. You would find sources disappearing, journalists lives in danger, and a quick cover up to prevent the story from ever seeing the light of day.

    Do you remember the story about cardboard being used in dim sum? Look what happened to the journalist of that story. They jailed him, and all the people that help get the story out. Then turned around and said the story was phony, when in fact it was quite true, and the Chinese government did not want it out.
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    Just a small price to pay.

    You folks shouldnt be too selfish.

    Just last week, I was at my favoirte fishing hole. I had to rescue a poor frog that was trapped in a condom.

    Remember one thing bob, everytime you flush down your tainted jimmy hat, you are destroying our eco-system.

    Rememdy for bobsticks:
    Take out your scissors and cut it into little pieces with your lover then flush. She'll think it's romantic.

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    Sir T I am more than willing to concede your point regarding what could and would happen to those folks under an oppresive regime. I guess my point, albeit poorly stated, is that there's nothing credible about this story. GM's questions are not fully in jest. I mean just in order to produce the things the material would have to go through a manufacturing process that would kill even the heartiest bacteria or viral strains. And, who exactly is the unlucky character to gather the material for recycling. This sounds more like the something out of the Asian Inquirer.

    jay, you're such a bizzare person. Kentucky isn't that far away, if I have to drive there and pummel you it won't be pretty. Carried out, I say...

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