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Dang! Great new sportscar
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Holy Ripper!! That is frikken beau-ti-ful...massively impressive as far as design goes... aerodynamics...ergonomics....very impressive...
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Yikes! That's frickin' HOT!
I think I came...
(just a little)
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That's so pretty it gave me goosebumps.
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Dern! I messed up mah keyboard agin!!
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Thank Gawd fer little gulls!
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Wow. Look how close the driver is to the road with an almost zero profile hood - I'll bet driving this would be like street luge on a skateboard.
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I don't know, looks a bit like an eclipse.
Just kidding. Very nice car but my drooling is typically reserved for more exotic fare:
http://blog.penaltyofheroes.com/wp-c...xr-430x186.jpg
or:
http://www.exoticcars.ws/cars/lotec-sirius-rear.jpg
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Rats! Foiled again!
Nope, I like your car better Auri.
But I'm a pushover for anything orange.
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Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
But I'm a pushover for anything orange.
...you should see his face now that you said that.
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Originally Posted by nightflier
I don't know, looks a bit like an eclipse.
The more I look at it, the more that seems to go away...but I noticed it, too.
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I'll still take the McLaren F1, its faster. I love the orange color though. We have a Nissan Murano that color.
http://www.fantasycars.com/McLaren_F...3/MCLAREN3.JPG
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Why not start at the top and work our way back
2008 Bugatti Veyron, if you have 1.5 mil to buy one and a gasoline storage tank to keep it filled. Then the skys the limit.
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/1...20180875-E.jpg
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Here's another beauty. Some one in Texas bought this car and got caught doing over 225mph on the highway.
http://s2.desktopmachine.com/pics/Ko..._1600x1200.jpg
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Yup, that's a Koenigsegg.
225mph? Was that before or after he landed?
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Originally Posted by blackraven
That looks more like an airplane than a car!
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The new McLaren looks pretty bland IMO, I prefere the original, which it simply looks a bland update of.
That Lotec however is HOT. I also like the new Mercedes SLS, and I love the noise those AMG engines put out. A little on the heavy side unsurprisingly, which is unfortunate.
How about the new 4 seater Aston, the 'Rapid'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im_Sg...eature=popular
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Originally Posted by audio amateur
The new McLaren looks pretty bland IMO, I prefere the original, which it simply looks a bland update of.
That Lotec however is HOT. I also like the new Mercedes SLS, and I love the noise those AMG engines put out. A little on the heavy side unsurprisingly, which is unfortunate.
How about the new 4 seater Aston, the 'Rapid'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im_Sg...eature=popular
Actually I agree -- stort of -- that the McLaren is "bland" if by that you mean lacking a certain "macho" edge. I kind of prefer the smooth, more liquid look however. So chacun à son goût.
But I'm not denying the Lotec C1000 is a looker ...
http://maxpages.com/files/awesomecar...ec_c1000-1.jpg
And I definitely like the SLS if you're referring to this ...
http://autozoo.ru/wp-content/uploads...-sls-2-big.jpg
But not so much if you're referring to this ...
http://blog.360dgrs.nl/wp-content/up...ls-amg_522.jpg
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BR, are you sure he was going 225mph? The world record for the Koenigsegg is still 241mph (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbxxG2Kbas0), but that was under ideal conditions on a racetrack. That kind of speed is extremely dangerous. I've driven an Audi on the Autobahn (granted not a rear-wheel drive ass-scraper like the above), but even going 200 Km/h (125Mp/h) is a hair-raising experience. Just imagine hitting a pebble at that speed.
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Originally Posted by audio amateur
The new McLaren looks pretty bland IMO, I prefere the original, which it simply looks a bland update of.
That Lotec however is HOT. I also like the new Mercedes SLS, and I love the noise those AMG engines put out. A little on the heavy side unsurprisingly, which is unfortunate.
How about the new 4 seater Aston, the 'Rapid'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im_Sg...eature=popular
Also, I do like the Rapide (for a 4 door) ...
http://www.cartype.com/pics/4061/ful...n-net-0083.jpg
But then it kind of reminds me of the new Mazda 6, (which I do like the looks), of for a lot less change ...
http://mazdainhouston.com/images/mazda6-5dr.gif
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Gawd, all this talk reminds me of my first trip to Germany, to visit my future in-laws. At Frankfurt, we were picked up by a sib who drove a nice, nondescript Mercedes. The driving on the autobahn was rather sedate: cars glided by easily, reminding me of country roads back home. I asked how fast we were going, and was told, "Oh, about 110-120." I leaned back. Yeah, that's sane, I thought. Then it occured to me: "Is that kph or mph?" I asked. "MPH," was the simple reply.
By the time we arrived, I was nonplussed with the experience. I was hardly exhilarated, but still....In about an hour, we heard a noise that sounded as though a Harrier jump-jet had pulled into the garage downstairs. In a few moments, two more siblings came into the room, grinning. The younger, a surgeon and all round "Cool Guy" (how I hate him) walked forth, arm and arm with happy smiles on their faces. Turns out Doc owns a '79 or so Porsche 911 Turbo. Pretty car! I nonchalantly asked about his trip home and his speed--surely he broke the sound barrier. "Oh, about 210 or so....mph!"
Since then, my stomach remains well outside my body and must be transported by wheelbarrow...
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Auric, I'm pretty sure they were yanking your chain, or you misunderstood kilometers for miles. The max speed for the GT2, the fastest road-legal model, is 204 mph, and that's on a race track.
BTW, the Porsche Panamera is a new model that's certainly not too shabby-looking for a 4-door sedan. Sure beats the heck out of the Cayenne:
http://chinaluxculturebiz.files.word.../panamera1.jpg
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You're probably right, NF...I'm pretty gullible about these things. Still, when they pulled in, I was sure that the RAF had installed a hangar downstairs!
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Originally Posted by nightflier
BR, are you sure he was going 225mph? The world record for the Koenigsegg is still 241mph ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbxxG2Kbas0), but that was under ideal conditions on a racetrack. That kind of speed is extremely dangerous. I've driven an Audi on the Autobahn (granted not a rear-wheel drive ass-scraper like the above), but even going 200 Km/h (125Mp/h) is a hair-raising experience. Just imagine hitting a pebble at that speed.
It was 242mph in a 75mph zone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_ticket
http://forums.focaljet.com/team-pit-...7mph-over.html
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Well I still find that hard to believe considering the car's top speed is 241mph in ideal conditions (on a track, driven by a pro). But it's within the realm of possibility, I suppose.
In any case, that is extremely fast, unsafe, and hard to manage. The last time I drove exceedingly fast here in the states (Cal Hwy 5, near Bakersfield, driving imported Saab 9-5 turbo in the middle of the night - I won't mention how fast, but it was up there), I hit a pothole or some other road unevenness and I nearly lost control of the car. It scared the crap out of me. Considering there were four of us in the car, that's something I probably won't be doing again. I still love fast cars, and someday maybe I'll buy that Koenigsegg, but then I'll keep that business on the track.
Speaking of nice looking cars, I'm surprised no one even brought up a Lamborghini or Ferrari - they are very nice too. I've driven the Diablo and it's got amazing take-off and handling, even though they're not really known for that. I'd say it was comparable to the Porsche GT3. I guess Lambo & Ferrari are no longer considered exotics?
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Originally Posted by blackraven
Impressive, but as originally conceived this thread was about automotive esthetics, not performance.
Well, OK. I guess for some people, (males?), edgy "macho" designs, growling exhausts, rocket sled acceleration, 275 MPH, etc., are esthetic. Confident male that I am, I can appreciate sleekness and smooth, liquid, feline, almost "feminine" designs like the lates McLaren.
I'm not saying the Bugatti is ugly, but I'm not too impressed with the Mecedes SLS AMG for example; (reference: audio amateur).
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Here's a practical sedan that has nice lines, too bad its made by VW.
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z...Passat-CC.aspx
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Ahem....
Ahem ah say.. How in the name of all that's holy is a man to go back to work after viewing all this.. this... Automotive Porn!!!!?????
Da Worfster
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The CC is a very handsome car. It's been mentioned that like the Mercedes CLS, it sacrifices some accomodation for looks. I don't have a huge problem with that. And I really like the CLS.
Pasat CC ...
http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Vol...008_04-800.jpg
Mecedes Benz CLS ...
http://www.weddingcarrental.co.za/mercedes-cls.jpg
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The Porsche Panamera posted by NF isn't the real thing. As I can tell it's a prototype photo, and appears to share a lot from Porsche's flagship 'Carrera GT'. Unfortunately it looks a lot better than the real thing. This is what it looks like now that it is in production:
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It's also the best looking of the Panamera range as it is the 'turbo' - read twin-turbo V8 which probably puts out around 500 horses.
I do like the SLS, perhaps because it doesn't look like anything Mercedes, and also because it's supposedly based on the Viper's chassis.
The new McLaren is a bit too slick for my liking, I prefere the 'roughness' of the original.
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This is the Lotec I was refering to Feanor:
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One heck a good looking car, although I don't know much about it.
Coming back to German highways, they are moslty crowded in speed unrestricted areas, and the unrestricted bits are more and more becoming restricted. You do every once and a while see nut cases cruising at 200km/h+ (120mph) in their BMW, which means you really have to watch out when you're on the left lane, passing someone.
An English car mag (Evo) in one issue were challenged to top 200mph on unrestricted German autobahn with very fast cars. At that speed it's like tunnel vision, and things come very fast. Not worth trying IMO...
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Panamera dreams dashed.
Wow, Yeah, that pust a damper on that Panamera for sure. Why do car companies always do that? You seem something awesome at a show, you wait for years to reach production, and then it ends up being ho-hum when it comes out. Here's another one that looks pretty friggin hot for now but that will probably look like a VW when it's all said & done:
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/0..._-099-copy.jpg
More pics:
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/02/28/v...ro-x-concept/3
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P.S. Here are the specs on the 2001 Lotec:
2001 Lotec Sirius Concept Specifications - Specs
engine Twin Turbo Mercedes-Benz V12
valvetrain 4 Valves / Cyl
displacement 5987 cc / 365.3 cu in
bore 98 mm / 3.86 in
stroke 80.2 mm / 3.16 in
compression 8.5:1
power 994.8 kw / 1334 bhp @ 6300 rpm
hp per litre 222.82 bhp per litre
bhp/weight
torque 1300 nm / 958.8 ft lbs @ 3400 rpm
drive wheels Mid Engine / RWD
front brakes Brembro Discs
front wheels F 45.7 x 24.1 cm / 18.0 x 9.5 in
rear wheels R 45.7 x 33.0 cm / 18.0 x 13.0 in
front tire size 225/45ZR18
rear tire size 345/35ZR18
weight 1280 kg / 2822 lbs
length 4120 mm / 162.2 in
width 2080 mm / 81.9 in
height 1120 mm / 44.1 in
transmission 5-Speed Manual
top speed 400 kph / 248.5 mph
0 - 60 mph 3.7 seconds
The 2009 has similar specs, but adds a little more horsepower under the hood:
"The German supercar Lotec Sirius was introduced earlier in the millennium by the previous Group C2 championship race winner Kurt Lotterschmid. It was propelled by a twin-turbocharged Mercedes-Benz 6.0-Liter V12 engine and was made available in several performance levels, beginning with about 850 hp (635 kW) up to 1,200 hp (895 kW) in some form.
In spite of a number of obstacles and eventual production setbacks surrounding the initial Sirius, Lotec intends to make available an improved version in 2009 and has released sample illustrations of the new vehicle. No specs have yet been given but our sources says that the new vehicle will probably yield less than the present version, most probably because of the preceding V12 mill no longer being offered. One element that will stay, however, will be the present version’s carbon-fiber over tubular steel-frame design structure. This hi-tech construction method allows the Sirius to tip the scales at less than 1,400 kg in spite being equipped with numerous creature comforts such as air-conditioning and power-steering. Although not established independently, Lotec says that its supercar was able to accelerate from 0-62 mph in just 3.8 seconds, exceed 120 mph in 7.8 seconds and attain maximum speed of 242 mph." (http://www.4wheelsnews.com/2009-lote...th-more-power/)
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Lol, you guys seem to have something against VW :p
Speaking of which, the Sirocco (don't know if sold in the US), is a hot little car:
Attachment 6125
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Originally Posted by blackraven
Interesting article. Top Gear (english program) tested the Veyron on an oval track and hit 407km/h (254 mph). It's brilliantly filmed just like all the other episodes, you can watch it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da0YhGoyT9w
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Originally Posted by audio amateur
This is the Lotec I was refering to Feanor:
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One heck a good looking car, although I don't know much about it.
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Yep, that's a looker alright, and better looking than the car in the link I found.
It's extremely sleek, so much so that I not seeing how it is less "bland" than the McLaren MP4-12C ...
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog...._12c_011_2.jpg
I love the large but sculpted air scoops ahead of the rear wheels. I really admire the smooth integration of the front grill. Yes, and I really like the color: silver is so banal nowadays.
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From that angle it looks even more like an eclipse....
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From that angle it looks even more like an eclipse....
This Eclipse? ...
http://mmna.cachefly.net/MMNA/eclips...ex_6.en-us.jpg
Well, I think the resemblance is less than remarkable but the Eclipse isn't such a bad looking car.
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well until I win the lottery, I'll have to stick with my daily driver
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5...0866ab1ku9.jpg
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Lol, you guys seem to have something against VW :p
Speaking of which, the Sirocco (don't know if sold in the US), is a hot little car:
Attachment 6125
I bought a brand new passat station wagon years ago. And in the first 12months i had to replace the oil pump, power steering pump and water pump all due to leaks. Needless to say, we traded it in before the warranty expired for a Mazda MPV which had no problems what so ever. And all German cars are very expensive to fix here in the U.S.. Insurance is higher because the parts cost so much.
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