• 02-26-2008, 12:18 PM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    I am getting the impression that the more we try and teach this idiot, the dummer he gets.
  • 02-26-2008, 12:20 PM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    I am getting the impression that the more we try and teach this idiot, the dummer he gets.

    I resemble that!:incazzato:
  • 02-26-2008, 12:49 PM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GMichael
    I resemble that!:incazzato:

    LOL, thanks for the comic relief...LOL
  • 02-26-2008, 01:05 PM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    LOL, thanks for the comic relief...LOL

    We all do our part. You dish out information and put people in their place. I act silly and make people laugh. It's a team thing.
  • 02-26-2008, 01:30 PM
    ldgibson76
    You are being summoned!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    LOL, thanks for the comic relief...LOL

    Hey "SirT"!

    You've been summoned to "GMichael's" "What means the most in your HT system? Audio or video?" thread.
    Plus there's a surprise for you.....a concession! That's right, someone admitting that you were right about something. a true digression in progress! A must-read!
  • 02-26-2008, 02:24 PM
    Groundbeef
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Floor wax that is also non diary whipped topping?? Waaaahahahahahaha...LOLOL..too funny.

    Well, Sony is coming out with two new players in the summer for under $500. And if this is just too cheap for you, Goldmund is coming out with a $16,500 bluray player that does everything including broadway shows.

    Forget Broadway shows....whats it do when you watch porn?
  • 02-26-2008, 02:33 PM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Groundbeef
    Forget Broadway shows....whats it do when you watch porn?

    That depends on how you set the pop-up blocker.
  • 02-26-2008, 02:57 PM
    Groundbeef
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GMichael
    That depends on how you set the pop-up blocker.

    Why pray tell would you want a "Pop-Up Blocker" on when watching Porn? Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?
  • 02-26-2008, 11:28 PM
    pixelthis
    Woochifer]And your ignorance knows no bounds, try buying a calendar sometime or at least read up on what has happened over the last 20 years. A lot has happened since the 1980s.

    yep, PC's have taken over the market, a market that Apple surrendered due to greed and marketing ignorance



    Typical fallacious circular argument, given that every market in the world operates in a regulated environment, and not in some theoretical libertarian vacuum. Even the internet itself is a government-subsidized venture originally created for military applications.

    but its those "regulations" that allow monopolies to exist

    If monopolies don't exist, then why do all countries have some form of anti-trust laws on the books, and why has Microsoft been legally defined as a "monopoly" by the courts in the U.S. and the E.U.?

    this was grandstanding. If they were a monopoly then why werent they broken up?



    Nope, the reason is that they have a monopoly in the OS market that they have used to kill competitors in other markets.

    they dont have a "monopoly", just dominant market share, mainly because their stuff actually has use in the free world


    The joke is your now debunked belief that Macs could not be expanded. When was the last time you actually used a Mac? I thought so. :rolleyes:
    Dont have time to play with toys

    Oh, and I guess that if Macs are toys, then all the other Vista laptop PCs that PC World tested are toys too, given that the MacBook Pro outperformed all of them while running Vista?
    Sp vista sucks and powerbook is great because it runs it so well? Are you arguing with yourself?

    And by your logic, all laptops are toy computers anyway (even though they now constitute the majority of the market), given that none of them can add internal hard drive capacity either, right?
    theres plenty you can do with a laptop, but we're not talking about laptops


    This coming from someone who thinks that monopolies don't exist because we have a totally free market! Make up your mind! Do monopolies exist or don't they? Proprietary and patented technology alone do not constitute a monopoly, or is that what you are telling us does not exist?

    proprietary and patented tech doesnt constitute a monopoly true, and that is microsofts main advantage, thanks for proving my point, and monopolies dont exist in a free market,
    every monopoly that has ever existed exists because of govt force


    Apple was not a monopolist because at no point did they ever have or exercise market power in the computer industry. At the time that the Mac came out, there was still plenty of competition in the PC market, and the Mac's market share actually remained lower than the arcane Apple ][.



    And guess what, the market worked exactly as it should -- Apple attained only a 10% market share, while the less expensive and less capable PCs took the rest. Apple directed the Mac towards the higher end of the market, and they still do. At no point has Apple ever tried marketing the Mac towards the cheap bottomfeeding end -- I guess that's why you're so bitter towards them, given your preference for cheapness.

    In other words they lost market and became a niche product because of their greed and inept marketing, this isn't just my opinion its well known
    They wouldnt liscense their product or price it competively,
    and to say I am "bitter" toward a company that makes botique toys for people for whom cstyle is more important than function is hilarious. Why should I care about a doomed company run by a bunch of ignorant yuppies?



    I'm not preaching to someone who has lived it, just to someone who's ignorant of it.

    no, you're telling your lies and propaganda to someone who was THERE when it happened, propaganda doesnt work so well on someone who actually wittenessed
    what happened.
    And Apple gave up the future is what happened, and that is their loss




    So tell us what they "tried to do to computers" given that at no point did they ever attain a market position powerful enough to kill competition in the OS market?
    Every product they make is sealed tight and impossible to work on.
    THINK that microsoft products its source code? Where can you find apples?
    Oh. thats different! YEAH RIGHT



    Let's see, maybe my computer at work (which is Windows-based) will crash less often, run faster, won't force me to install crapware that I don't need (a la IE, Windows Messenger, Windows Media Player, etc.), be less susceptible to worms and other security risks, and provide the ability to seamlessly work between Linux, Windows, and OS X applications? :cornut:[/QUOTE]
    Then just get yourself an APPLE! So why doesnt your company use Apple? Why don't they let you bring your Apple to work?
    I thought so.
    Apple is just as prone to security risks as windows, the only reason hackers dont bother
    is that Apples are so rarely used that its not worth the trouble, and if you cant figure out how to uninstall media player and messenger then you are a blithering idiot.
    BTW I have used XP for several years with no problems of any serious sort whatsoever
    :1:
  • 02-26-2008, 11:33 PM
    pixelthis
    Sir Terrence the Terrible]I am getting the impression that the more we try and teach this idiot, the dummer he gets.


    This from a moron who can't spell "dumber"
    And since I am already out of high school I doubt theres' much you can teach me, punk
    :1:
  • 02-27-2008, 08:28 AM
    Woochifer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Woochifer]but its those "regulations" that allow monopolies to exist

    BS. In the absence of those regulations, monopolies would still form, only with no legal recourse for businesses or consumers against anti-competitive behavior.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    this was grandstanding. If they were a monopoly then why werent they broken up?

    Because the legal remedy for monopolistic behavior is not always to break up the company. Just today, MS was levied a $1.3 billion fine by the courts in the E.U. Try reading a court decision sometime -- Microsoft IS a monopoly, despite what your so-called "free market" theorizing might say.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    they dont have a "monopoly", just dominant market share, mainly because their stuff actually has use in the free world

    Gosh, maybe MS should hire you as their legal counsel. I'm sure after the judges hear all of your ramblings about how monopolies don't exist, they'll just tear up all of those consent decrees and prior court decisions! :rolleyes:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Sp vista sucks and powerbook is great because it runs it so well? Are you arguing with yourself?

    Nope. Not only can that MacBook Pro run Vista faster than other PCs should you choose to install that operating system, but it can also run Mac OS X, which PC Magazine BTW just reviewed as "arguably the best consumer operating system available."

    And BTW, Apple hasn't made "Powerbook" computers for years. Just yet another insight into how woefully outdated your facts are.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    theres plenty you can do with a laptop, but we're not talking about laptops

    You're talking about how nonexpandable computers are nothing more than toys. Simple logic would deduce that you're saying that laptops therefore are toys. Are you now saying that because "theres plenty you can do with a laptop" that laptops aren't toys? Applying logic again, wouldn't that therefore negate your argument that Macs are toys, given that there's plenty that I can do on a Mac?

    Think hard, I know that logic is not one of your strongsuits, but I'm really pulling hard for you this time! You can do it! Really!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    proprietary and patented tech doesnt constitute a monopoly true, and that is microsofts main advantage, thanks for proving my point, and monopolies dont exist in a free market,
    every monopoly that has ever existed exists because of govt force

    Again, make up your mind. Are you now saying that Microsoft IS a monopoly because it operates in a regulated environment? But, I thought that Microsoft was NOT a monopoly because it's impossible for them to exist in a free market! But, if you're now acknowledging that we're not in a free market, then that tosses all of your so-called "libertarian" arguments out the window now doesn't it?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    In other words they lost market and became a niche product because of their greed and inept marketing, this isn't just my opinion its well known
    They wouldnt liscense their product or price it competively,

    So, how does that make Apple a monopoly, like you said they are? I thought that monopolies didn't exit, or they only existed due to govt regulation, or that MS is not a monopoly because they attained a dominant market position. Your pretzel logic is quite amusing to say the least! :crazy:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Why should I care about a doomed company run by a bunch of ignorant yuppies?

    Doomed company? Yuh, doomed companies should all have $18 billion cash on hand, and coming off their most profitable quarter ever. You're about 11 years late to the party with that prediction, Nostradamus.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    no, you're telling your lies and propaganda to someone who was THERE when it happened, propaganda doesnt work so well on someone who actually wittenessed
    what happened.

    Nope, just stating a simple truth to someone who's too ignorant/myopic to acknowledge.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Every product they make is sealed tight and impossible to work on.
    THINK that microsoft products its source code? Where can you find apples?

    Here (Darwin kernel used in OS X)
    http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/

    And here (Webkit source code used for the Safari browser, Dashboard apps, and their Mail app)
    http://webkit.org/

    Again, don't let current facts get in the way of your outdated arguments.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Then just get yourself an APPLE!

    Already got one at home

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    So why doesnt your company use Apple? Why don't they let you bring your Apple to work?

    I can bring my Mac to work, if I choose to do so. Company has been wedded to PCs ever since I joined them. With Vista, they're now rethinking their IT systems, and now that Macs can virtualize and dual-boot using Windows, our custom apps can now run on Macs.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Apple is just as prone to security risks as windows, the only reason hackers dont bother
    is that Apples are so rarely used that its not worth the trouble

    Once again living in a theoretical dream world. It doesn't matter WHY Macs aren't as prone to security risks, the simple fact is that they ARE less prone to those risks. Many of MS' security risks are built into the OS defaults, for example, it took MS two service packs before the spam-magnet Messenger service was finally shut off by default.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    BTW I have used XP for several years with no problems of any serious sort whatsoever[/I]:1:

    Well, I'm happy for you. That would put you in a very select group. Don't you just feel special? :lol:
  • 02-27-2008, 08:57 AM
    kexodusc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Then just get yourself an APPLE! So why doesnt your company use Apple? Why don't they let you bring your Apple to work?

    I work for an Investment Manager firm that manages billions in personal and institutional investor's money - we use Mac's because they are more stable than windows, prone to far less security breaches, and are capable of running programs that can integrate well into any platform - Windows, Unix/Linux or Mac. It's a lot more common than you think. Windows flaws are the reason Microsoft has failed to dominate the server market the same way it has the desktop market.

    My Macbook is great (and it runs Linux very well).

    For the most part the decision to buy a windows based platform has less to do with the merits of windows and more to do with the barriers to changing from Windows to something else. That is changing though, as Microsoft's hold on the OS market is declining. Good thing for consumers, bad thing for MS fanboys.
  • 02-27-2008, 12:48 PM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Sir Terrence the Terrible]I am getting the impression that the more we try and teach this idiot, the dummer he gets.


    This from a moron who can't spell "dumber"
    And since I am already out of high school I doubt theres' much you can teach me, punk
    :1:

    If you are already out of high school, and are as ignorant and stubbornly stupid as you are, that is no testament to education you got at hickville high.

    The object of spelling dummer the way I did, is so you would actually understand the word. So what did you do, look up the spelling?
  • 02-27-2008, 12:51 PM
    ldgibson76
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    If you are already out of high school, and are as ignorant and stubbornly stupid as you are, that is no testament to education you got at hickville high.

    The object of spelling dummer the way I did, is so you would actually understand the word. So what did you do, look up the spelling?

    Brutal!!!!:eek:

    "Sir T", you're definitely back!
  • 02-27-2008, 12:53 PM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kexodusc
    I work for an Investment Manager firm that manages billions in personal and institutional investor's money - we use Mac's because they are more stable than windows, prone to far less security breaches, and are capable of running programs that can integrate well into any platform - Windows, Unix/Linux or Mac. It's a lot more common than you think. Windows flaws are the reason Microsoft has failed to dominate the server market the same way it has the desktop market.

    My Macbook is great (and it runs Linux very well).

    For the most part the decision to buy a windows based platform has less to do with the merits of windows and more to do with the barriers to changing from Windows to something else. That is changing though, as Microsoft's hold on the OS market is declining. Good thing for consumers, bad thing for MS fanboys.

    It seems that everyone around me has already transitioned to the Mac. I have been a PC guy all of my life, and my work environment has always been Mac. I am now considering going Mac myself. It would make alot of sense for me to do so.
  • 02-27-2008, 01:32 PM
    ldgibson76
    Hello "Sir T"!

    Forgive me if I sound a little presumptuous, but it seem like you are completely ignoring my post directed to you. What do I have to do?! Say something bad about Blu ray technology to get a response from you. I did in a previous post admit that your assertions and predictions regarding the demise of HD DVD was correct. I digress, already! You were right! You're the Man! I concede! (smile)

    Regards!
  • 02-27-2008, 01:36 PM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ldgibson76
    Hello "Sir T"!

    Forgive me if I sound a little presumptuous, but it seem like you are completely ignoring my post directed to you. What do I have to do?! Say something bad about Blu ray technology to get a response from you. I did in a previous post admit that your assertions and predictions regarding the demise of HD DVD was correct. I digress, already! You were right! You're the Man! I concede! (smile)

    Regards!

    Would you snap a sleeping lion with a wet towel?
  • 02-27-2008, 01:45 PM
    ldgibson76
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GMichael
    Would you snap a sleeping lion with a wet towel?

    As long as he's in his cage! Does he usually hold a grudge?! And let's not get it twisted, I'm not afraid of his insulting observations gripes and complaints! I do admit that he is a very knowledgeable guy and has a unique perspective on certain things. It's just at times his delivery leaves a lot to be desired. Kind of reminds me of a Morton's Steakhouse Fillet Mignon with all the trimmings being served on a trash can top! KnowwhatImean, Vern?!
  • 02-27-2008, 02:04 PM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ldgibson76
    As long as he's in his cage! Does he usually hold a grudge?! And let's not get it twisted, I'm not afraid of his insulting observations gripes and complaints! I do admit that he is a very knowledgeable guy and has a unique perspective on certain things. It's just at times his delivery leaves a lot to be desired. Kind of reminds me of a Morton's Steakhouse Fillet Mignon with all the trimmings being served on a trash can top! KnowwhatImean, Vern?!

    Just funnin' with ya. Sir T is a great guy.

    When someone has to spend 24/7 being business-like, it's fun to get down in the dirt and fling some mud. And S.T. can fling it with the best of them.
  • 02-27-2008, 02:18 PM
    filecat13
    'Tis better to fling than to be flung.

    'Tis better to be flung than to fling.

    You decide. :crazy:
  • 02-27-2008, 02:20 PM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by filecat13
    'Tis better to fling than to be flinged.

    'Tis better to be flinged than to fling.

    You decide. :crazy:

    Tis better to fling than to be flung, or flung at.
    Better to be a flinger than a flingy.
  • 02-27-2008, 02:29 PM
    filecat13
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GMichael
    Tis better to fling than to be flung, or flung at.
    Better to be a flinger than a flingy.


    I sit corrected, as does my post, though the error shall be immortalized in these quotes forever.
  • 02-27-2008, 02:37 PM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ldgibson76
    Hello "Sir T"!

    Forgive me if I sound a little presumptuous, but it seem like you are completely ignoring my post directed to you. What do I have to do?! Say something bad about Blu ray technology to get a response from you. I did in a previous post admit that your assertions and predictions regarding the demise of HD DVD was correct. I digress, already! You were right! You're the Man! I concede! (smile)

    Regards!

    Hey Dave, I responded, I responded!! I gotta mix to eat ya know. You are the bomb buddy, a class act. Now do you have a band aid so I can cover the whip marks you put on me!
  • 02-27-2008, 02:38 PM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ldgibson76
    As long as he's in his cage! Does he usually hold a grudge?! And let's not get it twisted, I'm not afraid of his insulting observations gripes and complaints! I do admit that he is a very knowledgeable guy and has a unique perspective on certain things. It's just at times his delivery leaves a lot to be desired. Kind of reminds me of a Morton's Steakhouse Fillet Mignon with all the trimmings being served on a trash can top! KnowwhatImean, Vern?!

    Ouch!! When I get up off this ground Dave.......and get this steak off my eye..........I don't know what the hell I am going to do! LOLOL
  • 02-27-2008, 02:40 PM
    Rich-n-Texas
    Casual acquaintences or former lovers? :biggrin5: