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Originally Posted by Geoffcin
The sad truth is that there's very few of us left who just sit and listen for enjoyment. Most music today is listend to on-the-go . Ipods, car systems, walkmans, muzak everywhere.
Well said. Couldn't agree more. I believe that to be the reason that quality reproduction suffers.Our 17 year old offspring has absolutley no notion of quality reproduction. The PC and the i-pod to him are the be all and end all. Strange.:confused:
Are "we"a dying breed?:sad:
Peace
Bernd:16:
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Dont worry Bernd, with just a little over 23 i am carrying on the legacy. I had two friends here to hear the DIVA setup so far (i am selective of who enters this room) and so far Nr.1 sold all is Pioneer and Heco stuff and bought a Maggie MGI and is saving for a amp. Nr. 2 sold all his Denon and Yamaha (DVD player) combined with his B&W 604 for a Apogee Stage (and is looking for electronics now). My Austrian visitors (Infinity Kappa 9A and 9 with Accuphase) bought my restored Apogee Duettas for 5K on the spot.
Long live tubes, stereo, vinyl and "quality" over quantity.
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Originally Posted by Bernd
Well said. Couldn't agree more. I believe that to be the reason that quality reproduction suffers.Our 17 year old offspring has absolutley no notion of quality reproduction. The PC and the i-pod to him are the be all and end all. Strange.:confused:
Are "we"a dying breed?:sad:
Peace
Bernd:16:
The PC and the Ipod CAN be used to get decent quality sound. My 2.1 PC system simply smokes any system that you can get out of the generic computer box. It didn't cost that much more either. Top quality lossless digital copies can sound pretty darn good on an Ipod. (connected to the right gear). No, it's not the hardware that's the problem, it's the LIFESTYLE.
Kids are brought up from a early age now to think that if you aren't doing something fast right now, you not having fun. So, if your not playing your Xbox, surfing the web, watching inane reality shows, or playing massive multiplayer game on your PC your not doing something worthwhile with your time. Listening to music is way down on the list for kids these days, even though most of them have Ipod buds surgically implanted in their ears.
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or playing massive multiplayer game on your PC
I play World of Warcraft on my Lappy while sitting in the sweetspot :-)
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Originally Posted by robin_v
Not even in the context of home movies am I comfortable with surround sound. This is mainly due to the fact that we don't have three dimensional video. When push comes to shove we are all still staring at a screen or "stage" and this is where the sound belongs.
By adding side and rear channels one is trying to push a way too large square peg into a round hole. The mere fact that one needs a centre speaker is in itself an indication of an improperly balanced system.
A little off topic but: Oh man, you are so missing out on something very cool. There's something about a mystery movie with a lot of tension and suddenly a twig snaps right behind you. Or in an action/war flick you can hear the bullet casings landing on the ground around you. Bullets flying past you and hitting the wall just past your head. It is so much more involving in 3-D sound.
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A 2-D screen?
Um, ok well, just because we are watching a screen or stage that does not mean that everything is perceived that way. When we watch a film we are seeing depth of field, which can be re-created through sound and sound design. We are watching a film from a POV vantage point and their are also camera tricks and effects that enable the viewer to take down the 2-D world and live almost within the frame. Sound can aid this process and while it might seem logical to have all the sound come from the front, that idea is just as ignorant as thinking that all of the actors in the film should walk side to side and never have a 3-D effect.
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Originally Posted by superpanavision70mm
DVD started off slow in 1997, but was a huge leap over VHS. HD formats are not nearly the huge leap as that, so it will most likely take even longer to catch on or never at all. Eventually the bar will be raised for quality and will come to a point where the demand is strong, but I don't think people are ready just yet. I think we might be looking at another Laserdisc trend for HD.
Oh, I assure you that at least for HD DVD the quality is already there. The player has already received a major firmware upgrade, and now even the initial glitchiest players perform well. The software is a *major* improvement over DVD on sets 50 inches and larger (and *right now* over Blu-ray). Personally, I am quite happy being an early adopter. Once you experience the next-gen formats, it is hard to go back to DVD (or HDTV for that matter, as HD DVD surpases my broadcast HDTV picture quality as well).
All of that said, price is definitely going to be a factor for most people, and as such it would be wise for both formats to get that down as quickly as they can. I firmly believe if they get to $300 or less, the public will buy in numbers (especially as they continue to upgrade to HDTVs). $500 for HD DVD was a good start for Toshiba and is turning into a very wise move for them in the first inning... We shall see which format ultimately wins out, but in the meantime I am enjoying some great movies on the new formats. :-)
---Dave
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I like the technology, but I'm waiting for more titles.
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Well, check out the website that I co-founded... www.fulvuedrive-in.com we have already reviewed almost all of the HD-DVD titles and have posted our first few Blu-ray titles.
Trust me....HD-DVD and Blu-ray are not ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS, just yet.
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Originally Posted by superpanavision70mm
Trust me....HD-DVD and Blu-ray are not ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS, just yet.
Speak for yourself... at least with respect to HD DVD. ;-)
Blu-ray I am not impressed with yet based on the demos I have seen, but that can change quickly as the format goes to dual layer discs later.
---Dave
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I am speaking for myself.
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