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    what receiver to get?

    Hi,

    I'm new to home audio in general. I'm going to purchase the following JBL speakers:

    http://www.amazon.com/JBL-CS480BG-Co...owViewpoints=1

    And I'm looking for a receiver that will work well with these speakers, but I don't know what to look for. Should I get a 5.1 or 7.1 receiver? What is a good brand?

    These are the 2 receivers I was looking at:
    5.1:
    http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR590-5...7048870&sr=1-3

    7.1:
    http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR790-7...7048870&sr=1-5


    Any suggestions? Thanks!

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    This place has good deals on Onkyo refurbs that seem to have more-current features for the buck than most.

    http://www.accessories4less.com/inde...ch_query=tx-sr

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    Impressive prices when comparing the Denon. Thanks for that link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andycc
    Hi,

    I'm new to home audio in general. I'm going to purchase the following JBL speakers:

    http://www.amazon.com/JBL-CS480BG-Co...owViewpoints=1

    And I'm looking for a receiver that will work well with these speakers, but I don't know what to look for. Should I get a 5.1 or 7.1 receiver? What is a good brand?

    These are the 2 receivers I was looking at:
    5.1:
    http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR590-5...7048870&sr=1-3

    7.1:
    http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR790-7...7048870&sr=1-5


    Any suggestions? Thanks!
    5.1.
    7.1 is overkill, totally unnessesary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    5.1.
    7.1 is overkill, totally unnessesary.
    Not if you have large room, or a dedicated HT room in your house..

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    i guess i'm wondering if there what the pros are for the 7.1

    Is the only difference the 2 additional channels? and if yes, is it worth it for me to get the 7.1 just to power that mid range speaker (the speakers have 4 sattelites, 1 sub, 1 midrange)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andycc
    i guess i'm wondering if there what the pros are for the 7.1

    Is the only difference the 2 additional channels? and if yes, is it worth it for me to get the 7.1 just to power that mid range speaker (the speakers have 4 sattelites, 1 sub, 1 midrange)?
    I would always go for the 7.1 unless it is a noticeable step down to a good 5.1 channel receiver. A 7.1 receiver can playback all of the 64 7.1 Dts and 36 7.1 Dolby TrueHD Blu ray soundtracks that are out there - a 5.1 receiver cannot. If you want a deeper rear soundfield, then go for the 7.1 receiver. If you couch or listening position is against the rear wall, then a 5.1 is your only choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    If you want a deeper rear soundfield, then go for the 7.1 receiver. If you couch or listening position is against the rear wall, then a 5.1 is your only choice.
    Can you please clarify what you mean by this? My couch is indeed against the rear wall, but why does that make 5.1 my only choice?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by andycc
    i guess i'm wondering if there what the pros are for the 7.1

    Is the only difference the 2 additional channels? and if yes, is it worth it for me to get the 7.1 just to power that mid range speaker (the speakers have 4 sattelites, 1 sub, 1 midrange)?
    Those two additional channels are actually one channel, two back center
    speakers, one on top of another.
    Just my experience, While there was a slight effect on some material, mostly it wasnt worth the effort of wiring and mounting two speakers in the back.
    Some modern receivers allow you to use those two channels for bi-amping, which
    I did on my new receiver for awhile, until I ADDED AN OUTBOARD AMP.
    This is a lot more effective way to use those two extra amps.
    Of course your speakers have to have two inputs on the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Those two additional channels are actually one channel, two back center
    speakers, one on top of another.
    Just my experience, While there was a slight effect on some material, mostly it wasnt worth the effort of wiring and mounting two speakers in the back.
    Some modern receivers allow you to use those two channels for bi-amping, which
    I did on my new receiver for awhile, until I ADDED AN OUTBOARD AMP.
    This is a lot more effective way to use those two extra amps.
    Of course your speakers have to have two inputs on the back.
    No Pixel, you are wrong AGAIN(damn!!!)

    The two rear channels are discrete and seperate, not one channel. If it was just one channel then prologic IIx would not work. It REQUIRES two seperate channels to function. Dts HD Master Audio 7.1 and Dolby TrueHD 7.1 would not function correctly as well. They REQUIRE to discrete rear channels to function.

    Your comment applies to Dts ES matrix and Dolby Digital EX ONLY.

    Before you respond, make sure you know what you are talking about. If you take this advice, we will probably hear less from you.
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