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    Cool What I want from HD DVD

    An open letter to the powers at Sony/Toshiba ect:

    Give us HD DVD!! (I don't care if it's HD DVD or Blue ray or anything else!)

    Heres the specs I want:

    #1: 1080p. If your going to do it, do it right.

    #2: 16 channels of digital output. 9.4 discrete audio output (left,right,center,2 sides, 2 backs height and dept plus 4 sub outputs) the rest can be digital "trigger" channels for accesories. How cool would it be to have a strobe light that goes off with explosions?
    Or chair shakers that move you to the movie? It would be nice if each channel were
    assignable. 4 fronts, not problem, 2 center channels, if thats what you want.

    #3: Backwards compatibilty. Come on, you can buy a DVD player at Walmart for $ 20.00.
    You can't tell me you can't stick an extra laser in a DVD player so it can play multiple
    formats.

    #4: Get it out soon. Don't delay. I want it for Christmas!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by swgiust
    An open letter to the powers at Sony/Toshiba ect:

    Give us HD DVD!! (I don't care if it's HD DVD or Blue ray or anything else!)

    Heres the specs I want:

    #1: 1080p. If your going to do it, do it right.
    And change our standard? No way, we would have have to start from scratch and we have already spend millions in RD.

    #2: 16 channels of digital output. 9.4 discrete audio output (left,right,center,2 sides, 2 backs height and dept plus 4 sub outputs) the rest can be digital "trigger" channels for accesories. How cool would it be to have a strobe light that goes off with explosions?
    Or chair shakers that move you to the movie? It would be nice if each channel were
    assignable. 4 fronts, not problem, 2 center channels, if thats what you want.

    The WAF would prevent this wish from making my format a mainstream format. Besides, assignable channels would require that post production have this many channels available to choose from. This would require extensive retooling of every post production facility in the world, as no studio is able to handle 9 channels let alone 16.

    Having 16 assignable channels would just invite all kinds of errors in processing if the user accendentally assigns a channel to the wrong place. Consumers would have to know exactly what they are doing, or this would be destined to fail in the field.

    #3: Backwards compatibilty. Come on, you can buy a DVD player at Walmart for $ 20.00.
    You can't tell me you can't stick an extra laser in a DVD player so it can play multiple
    formats.
    It will be backwards compatible, so you can cross this off your wish list.

    #4: Get it out soon. Don't delay. I want it for Christmas!!
    Your first few request are not in our current standards, so we will have to redesign our entire format from the gound up. This means more like Christmas of 2006 rather than this year.

    Man, this is hard work playing devils advocate for the manufacturers. I hope they pay me more than ABC currently is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swgiust
    An open letter to the powers at Sony/Toshiba ect:

    Give us HD DVD!! (I don't care if it's HD DVD or Blue ray or anything else!)

    Heres the specs I want:

    #1: 1080p. If your going to do it, do it right.

    #2: 16 channels of digital output. 9.4 discrete audio output (left,right,center,2 sides, 2 backs height and dept plus 4 sub outputs) the rest can be digital "trigger" channels for accesories. How cool would it be to have a strobe light that goes off with explosions?
    Or chair shakers that move you to the movie? It would be nice if each channel were
    assignable. 4 fronts, not problem, 2 center channels, if thats what you want.

    #3: Backwards compatibilty. Come on, you can buy a DVD player at Walmart for $ 20.00.
    You can't tell me you can't stick an extra laser in a DVD player so it can play multiple
    formats.

    #4: Get it out soon. Don't delay. I want it for Christmas!!
    While you are at it, why not ask for a Home Theater say the size of a small Imax to hold all those speakers?
    Wooch, Sir TT, etal are a part of a Northern California Conspiracy!
    Smokey, admit you are using your receiver as a prepro!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick4433
    While you are at it, why not ask for a Home Theater say the size of a small Imax to hold all those speakers?
    Nickster -

    I thought you were well on your way to that kind of multichannel nirvana until that UFO abducted you and left us with a replicant Nick who's into two-channel! Seems that the original Nick still hasn't returned.

    BTW, where the hell you been, and why you letting us run the perverbial asylum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woochifer
    Nickster -

    I thought you were well on your way to that kind of multichannel nirvana until that UFO abducted you and left us with a replicant Nick who's into two-channel! Seems that the original Nick still hasn't returned.

    BTW, where the hell you been, and why you letting us run the perverbial asylum?


    Yeah what Wooch said........have you lost your mind?????
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    No reason to do it right the first time. They can wait a couple of years and then,2nd generation BlueRay. You get the idea.
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    Well, at least Sony has pretensions of 1080p, even though the demos that I know thus far have been 1080i. But the incentive for 1080p panels and engines isn't all that high in a steadfastly 1080i world. As Sir T can probably confirm, no broadcasters are equipped for it; any 1080p (24 fps) material in the shop has to be converted to interlaced at 30 fps for broadcast. The bandwidth and electronics required for 1080p at 60 fps would require a sea change that is not about to appear overnight. Yet, 1080p is not a complete fiction; it already has rumblings in the panels that can upconvert to it and in Sony's own upper end, which actually can input it. I agree that at least a nod and a wink to the viability of 1080p is a desirable feature in any putatively future-proof format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woochifer
    Nickster -

    I thought you were well on your way to that kind of multichannel nirvana until that UFO abducted you and left us with a replicant Nick who's into two-channel! Seems that the original Nick still hasn't returned.

    BTW, where the hell you been, and why you letting us run the perverbial asylum?
    Wooch and Sir TT. You are like those relatives who constantly remind you of your past when you want to start a new life. Where is the witness protection program when you need it?
    Wooch, Sir TT, etal are a part of a Northern California Conspiracy!
    Smokey, admit you are using your receiver as a prepro!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick4433
    Wooch and Sir TT. You are like those relatives who constantly remind you of your past when you want to start a new life. Where is the witness protection program when you need it?
    Didn't you find out that the program was going to send you to Nor. Cal, so you declined to participate under the grounds that it was too close to us?
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    Talking

    Ok, so I know I'm dreaming but it's always fun!

    What about one point that I made. Digital trigger channels.
    It seems that alot could be done with that. Like I said, a strobe
    light or a bass shaker. Or how about you hook up your garden
    hose and have a mist maker in the rainy scenes?? Or even better,
    a gas line and have real flames!!!
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