• 08-03-2007, 08:11 AM
    kelsci
    Hi L.J.; It should be interesting to see what kind of analysis you come up with in testing the Elite 91. As I mentioned in an earlier post, the 81 FLOORED many supposedly good and great receivers in stereo sound in a store demonstration. I cannot attest to Pioneers surround sound decoding since I did not get to hear that.

    Sometimes, you get weird things that occur in making a-b tests on things. In the case of the Yamaha 2700, why the stereo cannot sound as good or perform as well as 5.1 surround sound is mindbending to say the least. However, your test are so far confirming to what I posted previously particulaly about Yamaha's surround sound performance. I believe that from my previous post on the Yamaha's chips that they do know what they are doing for 5.1 surround sound processing. IMHO, the Yamaha 2095 flagship receiver was a honey that was made a few years ago when it came to 5.1 reproduction.
  • 08-08-2007, 09:04 AM
    L.J.
    Well I gotta chance to spend some time with the Elite 91 and unfortunately ran into immediate HDMI issues. Complete drop in picture and sound for about 1 second, then everything pops back on like nothing happened. This is exactly what happened with the 3rd Onkyo that I had. Not sure if it's the units, my TV or the PS3 having the handshake issues. This did not happen with the 661, 2807 or the 2700.

    The first drop out happened while playing a PS3 game. The second happened while watching BR of Happy Feet. I was done after that. Interesting that both units I had handshake problems with were HDMI 1.3.

    The 91 is a pretty decent unit but I don't think a comparison to the 2700. You'd have to maybe step up to the 92 Elite for that. The sound was close to that of the Onkyo but not quite. It was more balanced, not putting too much emphasis on the low end, but it was there. With that said, the unit just didn't jump out at me like the 805 or 2700 did. It didn't feel like a real step up over my 2805. If the 91 didn't have any HDMI issues with the rest of my gear, I probably still would have returned it.

    The 2700 came the closest in giving me exactly what I was looking for and IMO was the best sounding with HT. Huge step up over my 2805. After a few tweaks here and there I have it sounding pretty close to what I'm looking for in music playback as well. Looks like I found a winner. After going through 7 units, this has been an interesting and exhausting experience. I'm bushed :nonod: I asked in a thread a year or so ago about the difference in SQ from AVR's and I have been able to hear this difference first hand.
  • 08-08-2007, 09:13 AM
    GMichael
    Sounds like you listened to a lot of sounds, so you could sound out the best sound and make a sound decision.
    Sounds good to me.
    Enjoy the sound.
  • 08-08-2007, 04:22 PM
    L.J.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GMichael
    Sounds like you listened to a lot of sounds, so you could sound out the best sound and make a sound decision.
    Sounds good to me.
    Enjoy the sound.

    Now it's time to start looking at speakers. If I start now, I should be ready to purchase by 2009 :crazy:
  • 08-08-2007, 04:36 PM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by L.J.
    Now it's time to start looking at speakers. If I start now, I should be ready to purchase by 2009 :crazy:

    I can't say enough about the people & products over at AV123.com. The build quality is fantastic while the sound quality is above most others at the same price points. They have new speakers that will be released soon. The Rockets are getting a makeover. Man is the new line going to be hot. There will also be an HT package with new smaller Mini's. The xs line is getting rave reviews for a budget minded line.
    The owner posts on their forum to answer questions all the time. Great return policy as well.
    Oh, and did I meantion that I love my Mini's? Even more than I love my Titanic.
  • 08-08-2007, 04:45 PM
    bobsticks
    L.J., I appreciate you taking the time to share your insights with us. I'm no less confused than I was in the beginning, but I am appreciative nonetheless....:cornut:


    Peace
  • 08-08-2007, 06:58 PM
    kelsci
    Hi L.J.; You have now had what I call a major audio experience in trying out the various receivers. It is exhaustive experimentation particulaly involving 5 or more channels, never mind trying two channels. Now you know just how much variance there can be from the different brands out there. Good luck with the 2700.
  • 08-09-2007, 04:34 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    Get the 91 back and live with it!!! :incazzato: j/k L.J.

    I think this entire thread should be sent to Denon so L.J. can get rewarded for all this hard work.

    -OR-

    Maybe we should throw him a party? :biggrin5: