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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Nobody needs it, is the point.
    BUT people waste their money on worse, I guess.
    But I have a lot of dust in my house, and I DONT NEED ONE.
    They werent even making them until a marketing wonk saw a demand.
    Doesnt matter if they work or not, if someone will buy one they'll sell one.
    Not that the issue is if they work or not, the issue is that they are not needed.
    Actually, the original point has been lost in minutae. The current issue at hand might be phrased in terms like, "you have the full right to an opinion, make judgement calls, and theorize but those theories, when applied as anecdotal evidence need to have a basis in reality"...or something along those lines...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyfi
    Wait, but 39 posts ago you were told they don't work.
    I always consider the source, their experience and the level of discrimination demonstrated. Translation: I completely ignored that source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat
    I always consider the source, their experience and the level of discrimination demonstrated. Translation: I completely ignored that source.

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    And wasted your money.
    Which is the ultimate revenge of the informed over the ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
    Actually, the original point has been lost in minutae. The current issue at hand might be phrased in terms like, "you have the full right to an opinion, make judgement calls, and theorize but those theories, when applied as anecdotal evidence need to have a basis in reality"...or something along those lines...
    Heres your "anecdotal" evidence, okay?
    I have been buying CD and other disc players since 1983(the first ones were
    a 2010 price of four grand), and I have never used any kind of cleaning
    device for the lens...EVER.
    Thats 27 years, two laserdisc players, a zillion CD players, half a dozen DVD players
    (two of which I still have) , and two BLU players.
    NEVER had one that showed any symtoms of trouble, except a Sony laser that died
    (dead laser) after eight years, and a Toshiba DVD that was a P.O.S outta the box.
    All of these were traded or sold, NONE quit.
    "lens" cleaners are a joke, people in the know see them and laugh at them, back in the eighties a magazine did a "comparison " of them, which turned out to be an Aprils fool joke.
    BUT THATS THE GREAT THING ABOUT AMERICA, you are free to waste your money on crap, and other people are free to get rich off of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    And wasted your money
    I'm sure there are great many audio goodies that I enjoy for which you would say the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat
    I'm sure there are great many audio goodies that I enjoy for which you would say the same.

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    Yeah, like actually buying quality equipment and properly setting it up.
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    I checked out the CD cleaners the other day in a shop for which they only had one model which said 'DVD lens cleaner'. Does this mean it's also good for a Compact Disc or CD-ROM drive? Basically I'm looking to clean the lens of my PS2 because it won't read PS1 games and has trouble with music CDs on a recorded CD.

    I have a feeling this cleaner was brush based (with a tiny soft brush attached to the underside of the disc), as I have seen on other cleaners in the past. Do these work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by audio amateur
    I checked out the CD cleaners the other day in a shop for which they only had one model which said 'DVD lens cleaner'. Does this mean it's also good for a Compact Disc or CD-ROM drive? Basically I'm looking to clean the lens of my PS2 because it won't read PS1 games and has trouble with music CDs on a recorded CD.

    I have a feeling this cleaner was brush based (with a tiny soft brush attached to the underside of the disc), as I have seen on other cleaners in the past. Do these work?
    They are all mostly the same brush based. And yes, they work for all here who have used them but Pix never needed one so he is the 1 in a million odds individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audio amateur
    I checked out the CD cleaners the other day in a shop for which they only had one model which said 'DVD lens cleaner'. Does this mean it's also good for a Compact Disc or CD-ROM drive? Basically I'm looking to clean the lens of my PS2 because it won't read PS1 games and has trouble with music CDs on a recorded CD.

    I have a feeling this cleaner was brush based (with a tiny soft brush attached to the underside of the disc), as I have seen on other cleaners in the past. Do these work?
    I would stay away from the brush based cleaners. The one I first recommended does not use brushes, but uses wind to create a vacuum that pulls dust away from the lens. It is VERY effective, and there is no chance you will damage the lens. They are not that expensive either at $15.00
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    I would stay away from the brush based cleaners. The one I first recommended does not use brushes, but uses wind to create a vacuum that pulls dust away from the lens. It is VERY effective, and there is no chance you will damage the lens. They are not that expensive either at $15.00
    Thanks T. The reason I was asking, as I stated in my previous post, is because it was explicitely written 'DVD lens cleaner', not 'DVD/CD/Blu-ray lens cleaner'. I'll look into the wind tunnel type and see if I can find the same or a similar cleaner here in France. Shipping from Amazon US would make it pretty expensive I think, not to mention shipping time...

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