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    Rear speaker placement

    I would like to add rear speakers to my system but do not have a good place to put them. I have to use "in ceiling" speakers for rears or do without them, but because of access they would have to be about 3 or 4 feet in front of the main seating area.

    The seating area is 13' from the mains and TV, the surrounds are directly to the side of the seating area. So if I did this the rears would be about 9' from the screen but 4' in front of the seating area.

    What would this configuration do to the sound?
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    It would ruin the sound stage. I would forget the rear surrounds and just use the sides for rears in a 5.1 set up. It would really be a waste of money and time as you don't want to sit behind the rear surrounds.

    No way to use stands or in-wall? I don't understand how the seating position could be back that far without a place to put a speaker.

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    I can't put speakers behind the seating area because that is the dining area and kitchen. In wall is a possibility but they would directly above the surrounds or maybe 1' behind.
    Hitachi P505602 plasma
    Sony BDP-S360 blu-ray
    Onkyo TX-SR608 receiver
    Infinity P152 front L & R
    Infinity PC250 center
    2 Emotiva Ultra-10 subs
    Polk Audio R150 surrounds

    2 channel
    Yaqin MS-20L integrated amp
    Emotiva ERC-1 CD player
    Technics SL-1200M3D/Shure M97xe
    Onkyo T-4010 tuner
    Modded Musical Fidelity V-LPS phono preamp/Pyramid PS
    1987 Heresy II Signature Editions/external crossovers

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyto
    I can't put speakers behind the seating area because that is the dining area and kitchen. In wall is a possibility but they would directly above the surrounds or maybe 1' behind.
    If you can't get the proper distance behind you, or on the wall behind you, forget it. The negative HRT effects would cancel out any benefits you would get by adding them. There would not be enough channel separation, and it would just muddy the sound field.
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    Your Onkyo receiver has provisions for an additional pair of front speakers. The speakers are placed high and outside your mains. They are sometimes referred to as "presence speakers." If you can't add rear surrounds, why not add front presence? You can have some fun adding additional speakers and you might find that you like how they sound and enjoy some of the sound fields that employ them. I have a pair of presence speakers and enjoy them alot.
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    I have the front high outputs running a pair of speakers in my screen porch, I like your idea but don't want to give up the outside speakers. For now I am just going to stick with 5.2.
    Hitachi P505602 plasma
    Sony BDP-S360 blu-ray
    Onkyo TX-SR608 receiver
    Infinity P152 front L & R
    Infinity PC250 center
    2 Emotiva Ultra-10 subs
    Polk Audio R150 surrounds

    2 channel
    Yaqin MS-20L integrated amp
    Emotiva ERC-1 CD player
    Technics SL-1200M3D/Shure M97xe
    Onkyo T-4010 tuner
    Modded Musical Fidelity V-LPS phono preamp/Pyramid PS
    1987 Heresy II Signature Editions/external crossovers

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