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Originally Posted by kexodusc
This product is a bit weird.
I could be way off, but that Emotiva thing looks like a $400 step in the wrong direction dudes. If you're going to drop $400 to "undo" the convenience of 1 HDMI cable, why not just buy a $400 BluRay player with analog outputs that does all the new decoding, OR spend $400 - $500 more and get a new bleeding edge receiver with all the bells and whistles? By the time you pawned your current receiver, it'd probably be less than that.
Also, is this Emotiva thing capable of supporting the high bitrates and bandwidth of the new Dolby/DTS/uncompressed formats, or is the PCM signal going to be too much for it, and down-graded somehow? Not sure just by the website.
Even more baffling is why they thought to include a 20 watt/channel amp in the thing? That's going to be not enough for just about everyone unless someone has a 7.1 system now with NO receiver ?
20 watts isn't enough for people who'd probably consider something like this - and for those that could get away with 20 watts, $400 on a modern receiver is probably money better spent.
Yeah this is what I was thinking. Great points I didn't catch too. Way to much money. Not much info up either but according to AVS members it only supports HDMI 1.1/MCPCM. I kinda see it as a good idea but at the same time, you make some very good points. Should be interesting to read peoples comments on it. It's not from Emotiva though it's Gefen. Sorry for the confusion.
Emotiva is suppose to have a pre/pro for $699 MSRP out in early June. Anybody got any thoughts on this......pretty cheap :confused5: Nobody else got anything close to this price. Seems interesting enough. Here's some info from their forums:
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Here is the time line based on the latest info:
Early April we receive the final code set and chips from Cirrus. Advance prototypes should be finished in 10 days to 2 weeks after the chip delivery. Approvals from Dolby and DTS will be ongoing during final testing which should take roughly 2 to 3 weeks. Once it is fully tested and has all approvals production can begin and will take 7 to 10 days. Then it will take about 3 weeks by fast boat to get them here (yes, believe it or not the fast boat takes 3 weeks). Once it arrives in port then we have another 3 days for customs approval and 7 days by overland carrier to our warehouse. So the bottom line is we now expect to ship them June. I know, I know, I feel the same way, but for those who are waiting let me give you some info on what you will get. 4) HDMI inputs and 1) HDMI output. 4) each composite and s-video inputs, 3) component inputs and all will be scaled and set out over HDMI at whatever resolution you want up to 1080p. It also has DVI and VGA inputs which will be scaled and piped out the HDMI as well. Full color graphical OSD on HDMI. Auto room correction with User definable EQs. 4) analog audio inputs (not counting the 7.1 analog input), 4) coaxial inputs, 3) optical inputs and both coax and optical digital audio outputs. You will also get a continuous 2 channel mix down of the audio on a fixed output level, as well as variable and independent Zone 2 output and an analog record output. It has a built in AM/FM tuner, trigger output, IR in and outputs as well as iPOD connectivity and USB for complete flash upgrades (no need to ever send it in for an update), and one last input for the included calibration microphone. The front panel as most of you have seen has a 2) line dot matrix display, the ever popular knob (with blue halo lighting) and a full quadrant control on the left hand side (also with blue halo lighting). The menu structure is deep and allows for assigning the inputs, selecting default modes per input. It will have all the latest and greatest HD formats including DTS-MA. I hope to have screen shots of the OSD and a full list of features very soon, so stay tuned
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My reciever will apply level adjustments to the multi-channel inputs, but it doesn't apply PL IIx, or any DSP's. I'm not sure if it bass management is included or not? It's been so long since I set it up
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Well since your on the subject of setup. Which do you guys prefer when you run the YPAO....Natural or Flat??
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Originally Posted by L.J.
Yeah this is what I was thinking. Great points I didn't catch too. Way to much money. Not much info up either but according to AVS members it only supports HDMI 1.1/MCPCM. I kinda see it as a good idea but at the same time, you make some very good points. Should be interesting to read peoples comments on it. It's not from Emotiva though it's Gefen. Sorry for the confusion.
Emotiva is suppose to have a pre/pro for $699 MSRP out in early June. Anybody got any thoughts on this......pretty cheap :confused5: Nobody else got anything close to this price. Seems interesting enough. Here's some info from their forums:
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Well since your on the subject of setup. Which do you guys prefer when you run the YPAO....Natural or Flat??
Looks like a nice upgrade from their current model. Hopefully they've learned from last years model and worked out the bugs.
I read nothing but good reviews on their amps.
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What was thread about again :idea:
Anyways, did you goes go with the Natural or Flat setting on the YPAO????
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I don't understand the question. I didn't know you had a choice.
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Originally Posted by L.J.
What was thread about again :idea:
Anyways, did you goes go with the Natural or Flat setting on the YPAO????
I think I used Flat, but it was a long time ago. It was the one that put emphasis on the two front mains. Then I saved it and have tweeked it.
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Originally Posted by L.J.
Emotiva is suppose to have a pre/pro for $699 MSRP out in early June. Anybody got any thoughts on this......pretty cheap :confused5: Nobody else got anything close to this price. Seems interesting enough.
Now THAT might be interesting...$700 is an attractive price point for a loaded pre-pro like that to a guy that has a few power amps. Though I suspect I'd order a 5-channel/7-channel amp soon enough anyway.
Hmmm.
I'm still torn on their stuff though - people that have it seem to like it, but then I see the odd not so nice review.
I've got until August - so hopefully there'll be some comments on this. It's definitely on the short list with the RX-V1800!
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Well since your on the subject of setup. Which do you guys prefer when you run the YPAO....Natural or Flat??[/QUOTE]
Flat.
It's sorta counter-intuitive to use room EQ-ing to optomize your speakers, then introduce a deliberate roll-off of the highs, but personal preference is always the way to go, so whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Yammies measure ruler flat - as in no coloration or alteration of the signal - not like they used to be, mind you. I know some H/K's and Denons are exaggerated a bit for that "warm" sound some people like. Not sure if that's still the case though, every time I compare Denon's and Yammies they sound the same - H/K is still a bit different.
Some people interpret flat/natural as "too bright". That's fine, I guess if you want to roll the highs a bit because you're sensitive to them or whatever. Speakers probably have some say in the matter too - if they're a bit on the treble side of things.
My personal feeling is if everything in your system is transparent and without coloration of alteration of the source, then flat is optimal. That's what I strive for anyway. YMMV.
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Originally Posted by kexodusc
Now THAT might be interesting...$700 is an attractive price point for a loaded pre-pro like that to a guy that has a few power amps. Though I suspect I'd order a 5-channel/7-channel amp soon enough anyway.
Hmmm.
I'm still torn on their stuff though - people that have it seem to like it, but then I see the odd not so nice review.
I've got until August - so hopefully there'll be some comments on this. It's definitely on the short list with the RX-V1800!.
Yeah, as GM said, I've read some negative feed back on their last model too. I better stop hitting up these forums...I haven't even had my Yammie for a year and I already got thoughts running in the back of my head.....BAD LJ. NO.
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Flat.
It's sorta counter-intuitive to use room EQ-ing to optomize your speakers, then introduce a deliberate roll-off of the highs, but personal preference is always the way to go, so whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Yammies measure ruler flat - as in no coloration or alteration of the signal - not like they used to be, mind you. I know some H/K's and Denons are exaggerated a bit for that "warm" sound some people like. Not sure if that's still the case though, every time I compare Denon's and Yammies they sound the same - H/K is still a bit different.
Some people interpret flat/natural as "too bright". That's fine, I guess if you want to roll the highs a bit because you're sensitive to them or whatever. Speakers probably have some say in the matter too - if they're a bit on the treble side of things.
My personal feeling is if everything in your system is transparent and without coloration of alteration of the source, then flat is optimal. That's what I strive for anyway. YMMV.
Not sure what my first settings were but I liked the sound better without the YPAO. I wonder if I had it on natural. I'll have to try flat.
I don't know. I've never really trusted these auto EQ things for some reason.
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
I don't understand the question. I didn't know you had a choice.
yeah you can go in before you run the setup and have it skip certain test and select which "curve" you want or whatever they call it.
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Originally Posted by L.J.
...I better stop hitting up these forums...I haven't even had my Yammie for a year and I already got thoughts running in the back of my head.....BAD LJ. NO.
Yeah, okay. :rolleyes: He's talked me into buying a Harmony remote; I'm still way behind on the learning curve, a fancy shmancy receiver that's way past my level of comprehesion currently, and now he's got me on the fast track to a PS3. I'm going to sit down in front of my equipment wonna these days, push a remote button and my brain's gonna explode!!! :crazy:
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Originally Posted by L.J.
I don't know. I've never really trusted these auto EQ things for some reason.
They do everything else well, (distances & levels) but I don't like how the EQ settings turn out. Way too aggressive for me. I set everything to flat. Then cut a few peaks manually.
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Yeah, okay. :rolleyes: He's talked me into buying a Harmony remote; I'm still way behind on the learning curve, a fancy shmancy receiver that's way past my level of comprehesion currently, and now he's got me on the fast track to a PS3. I'm going to sit down in front of my equipment wonna these days, push a remote button and my brain's gonna explode!!! :crazy:
He's just trying to pass on the love after I talked him ito that sub.
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Yeah, okay. :rolleyes: He's talked me into buying a Harmony remote; I'm still way behind on the learning curve, a fancy shmancy receiver that's way past my level of comprehesion currently, and now he's got me on the fast track to a PS3. I'm going to sit down in front of my equipment wonna these days, push a remote button and my brain's gonna explode!!! :crazy:
What, you don't got the voice command up and runnin' yet :lol:
Come on man....all these fancy gadgets are suppose to make your life easier :cornut:
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And my wallet emptier (word?)
One way to justify my nack for buying more gadgets before knowing how they work... Can you network game with PS3's? COD4 in multiplayer mode? Like you (or somebody) said, lots of people here now own PS3's, so that would make me feel a bit less guilty about building a gaming computer just to use a PS3 to eliminate you people in a blood and guts world, ya know? :ihih:
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And my wallet emptier (word?)
One way to justify my nack for buying more gadgets before knowing how they work... Can you network game with PS3's? COD4 in multiplayer mode? Like you (or somebody) said, lots of people here now own PS3's, so that would make me feel a bit less guilty about building a gaming computer just to use a PS3 to eliminate you people in a blood and guts world, ya know? :ihih:
Within the PSN network sure. You can go online with most games.
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Do I recall reading that there's a fee to use the Playstation Network?
Oh, BTW thread starter, sorry for the hijacking. :biggrin5:
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Do I recall reading that there's a fee to use the Playstation Network?
Oh, BTW thread starter, sorry for the hijacking. :biggrin5:
Nope. No fees. Right now it's HD movie trailers, video/voice chats, emailing friends, downloadable games, videos, demos things like that. Something called Home is on the way and eventually movie & music downloads.
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Hello? Is this Amazon.com? I'd like to purchase a PS3... NOW!!!
:incazzato: :incazzato: :incazzato:<== L.J.
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Hello? Is this Amazon.com? I'd like to purchase a PS3... NOW!!!
:incazzato: :incazzato: :incazzato:<== L.J.
Don't forget that you need a new sub. And an external amp.
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I don't know, Kex talks like he may upgrade his amp as well as his receiver so maybe I'll hit him up for his Rotel... :ihih:
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
I don't know, Kex talks like he may upgrade his amp as well as his receiver so maybe I'll hit him up for his Rotel... :ihih:
What about a BFD?
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Originally Posted by GMichael
What about a BFD?
Now, now GM one thing at a time......we don't want to give Rich a headache. He still needs to read the Harmony manual a few more times :p
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I don't know, Kex talks like he may upgrade his amp as well as his receiver so maybe I'll hit him up for his Rotel... :ihih:
The Rotel isn't going anywhere. :)
I might have a few older amps that get decommissioned though.
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Yeah, okay. :rolleyes: He's talked me into buying a Harmony remote; I'm still way behind on the learning curve, a fancy shmancy receiver that's way past my level of comprehesion currently, and now he's got me on the fast track to a PS3. I'm going to sit down in front of my equipment wonna these days, push a remote button and my brain's gonna explode!!! :crazy:
I hope you can appreciate just how hard I AM RESISTING THE URGE TO...
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Originally Posted by kexodusc
The Rotel isn't going anywhere. :)
Can't fault me for trying.
A PS3 I can justify since I have a TV that can handle the BR format, but until I've squeezed out all I can from an SQ standpoint with my receiver, I can't yet justify the BFD. Even though it's a very economical and effective solution, I feel the need to first be sure I understand and have tweaked my listening environment the best I can. :yesnod:
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I hope you can appreciate just how hard I AM RESISTING THE URGE TO...
ARRRG:1:
Fire away pix. I can bust my ass with the best of 'em. :skep:
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