If anyone is looking for either: 1. Multi System progressive scan DVD players that will play both NTSC & PAL DVDs at 5.1 sound, 2. DVD stand alone recorders that legally do the same thing DVD Shrink does minus the compression, 3. A legal physical apparatous for your stand alone DVD recorders that does the same thing DVD Shrink does without the compression, please feel free to send me a private email. I discovered a commercial manufacturer that sells these products near where I live & he'll cut me in, on sales I can provide him.