Pulled The Trigger ... 50" Plasma

[GMichael]

The sun came up today, so Richie gets to play another day.

The sun actually burnt out 10 years ago. That B.O.T. that's still up in the sky is part of a huge government cover-up to get us to buy more oil.

(and plasma TV's)

[Mr Peabody]

Some one should tip Homeland security about that leaking gas in those Plasmas.

OK! Here's the truth on Plasma vs. LCD. This should put an end to all debate on the issue. I did a side by side comparison in the store with same program and I'll be damned if I can tell a difference with my sunglasses on.

[pixelthis]

Some one should tip Homeland security about that leaking gas in those Plasmas.

OK! Here's the truth on Plasma vs. LCD. This should put an end to all debate on the issue. I did a side by side comparison in the store with same program and I'll be damned if I can tell a difference with my sunglasses on.

OR off, really.
This will all be over in a few years when plasma crashes and burns
and I am acknowledged as the undeniable king and champion of teh universe.

[nightflier]

Well, I just did a quick check online and it does look like Plasmas are now cheaper than their comparably sized LCDs (well except for the Pioneers).

Look, I didn't say anyone else had to care about the green reasons. It would be nice if they did, but people can buy what they want. To me it matters, so that's where I spend my money.

[GMichael]

Well, I just did a quick check online and it does look like Plasmas are now cheaper than their comparably sized LCDs (well except for the Pioneers).

Look, I didn't say anyone else had to care about the green reasons. It would be nice if they did, but people can buy what they want. To me it matters, so that's where I spend my money.

And you should be very happy with your purchase. Nothing wrong with a good LCD. Everyone has their own reasons for why they pick one over the other. Personally, I picked neither, but would have been happy with either. Go HT!

[pixelthis]

And you should be very happy with your purchase. Nothing wrong with a good LCD. Everyone has their own reasons for why they pick one over the other. Personally, I picked neither, but would have been happy with either. Go HT!

I agree, musta fell and hit my head, I agree with GM.
I like to tease plasma owners (a tad) but truth is if you are interested in this hobby that is a start.
Give yourself the "acid test" (not that kinda acid GM) and get a plasma side by side with a LCD.
Wont be able to tell the diff between the two, I PROMISE.

[GMichael]

I agree, musta fell and hit my head, I agree with GM.
I like to tease plasma owners (a tad) but truth is if you are interested in this hobby that is a start.
Give yourself the "acid test" (not that kinda acid GM) and get a plasma side by side with an LSD hit.
Wont be able to tell the diff between the two, I PROMISE.

That depends on where you do this demo. If you mean in the store, with uncelebrated units under bright lights, then you are right.

There. Now you don't have to agree with me.

[Feanor]

Well, I just did a quick check online and it does look like Plasmas are now cheaper than their comparably sized LCDs (well except for the Pioneers).

Look, I didn't say anyone else had to care about the green reasons. It would be nice if they did, but people can buy what they want. To me it matters, so that's where I spend my money.

Around where I am LCD are about the same price or a little cheaper. However what is surprising is that price have actually gone up a bit; not the "regular" prices but there are fewer advertised discounts that was the case a couple of weeks ago.

• Samsung 1080p 46" LCD (LN46A550)
• Panasonic 46" 1080p Plasma (TH46PZ80)

[nightflier]

Around where I am LCD are about the same price or a little cheaper. However what is surprising is that price have actually gone up a bit; not the "regular" prices but there are fewer advertised discounts that was the case a couple of weeks ago.

• Samsung 1080p 46" LCD (LN46A550)
• Panasonic 46" 1080p Plasma (TH46PZ80)

...but here it has something to do with the Bush Effect.

[Feanor]

...but here it has something to do with the Bush Effect.

When time start to look to look tough for average consumers, they stop buying. However the price of luxury consumers goods may actually go up because sellers know that only the wealthier people will continue to buy and they won't be deterred by the higher prices.

We in Canada are affected very quickly by whatever happens in the US.

[Rich-n-Texas]

...but here it has something to do with the Bush Effect.

Ya know what Clint Claven? I'm gonna yank that cigar right outta your mouth and push it up your nose. See what I'm sayin'?

[Rich-n-Texas]

When time start to look to look tough for average consumers, they stop buying...

Okay. I'm not understanding what you are saying here.

[nightflier]

Ya know what Clint Claven? I'm gonna yank that cigar right outta your mouth and push it up your nose. See what I'm sayin'?

On the morning of November 5th, Tex, after another night of too much booze and women, is leaned over the side of the pickup truck puking his guts out and swearing to the good lord for the gazillionth time that if he can just get through this morning he's never going to sin again. Looking up, wiping the chunky slime with his sleeve, he sees a motorcade approaching....

TEX: (Now remembering the elections of the night before, blurts out) They're Republicans like us. Let's say hello to them and then get going. (Yelling to the passing limousines) Hurrah! Hurrah for the Republicans! Hurrah! Down with Obama! Hurrah for George... (to his friend) What's his name again?

BLONDIE: Bush.

TEX: (Yelling to the secret service detail running along side the cars) Bush! God is with us because he hates the Democrats too! Hurrah!

BLONDIE: (Seeing that these are Republicans and CEOs fleeing the justice department) God is not on our side 'cause he hates idiots also....

You see, Tex, in this world, there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with intelligence, and those who wonder what happened. You wonder.


(paraphrased from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly)

[Rich-n-Texas]

If he really said "Tex", I'm sunk.

However, that blonde was sooooooo young, sooooooo sweet. (Yes, blonde: Bush)

[nightflier]

If he really said "Tex", I'm sunk.

However, that blonde was sooooooo young, sooooooo sweet. (Yes, blonde: Bush)

Ahem... "Blondie," ie. "The Good," was Clint Eastwood's character.

And no, "The Ugly" wasn't "Tex," it was "Tuco" played by Eli Wallach. The correct quotes:


TUCO: (Seeing troops approaching) They're gray like us. Let's say hello to them and then get going. (Yelling to the troops) Hurrah! Hurrah for the Confederacy! Hurrah! Down with General Grant! Hurrah for General... (to Blondie) What's his name?

BLONDIE: Lee.

TUCO: (Yelling to the troops again) Lee! God is with us because he hates the Yanks too! Hurrah!

BLONDIE: (Watching closely as the troops approach) God is not on our side 'cause he hates idiots also. (The troops approach them, and beat the gray dust off their Union uniforms.)


Later in the movie, when "Angel Eyes" aka "The Bad" has been shot in the classic 3-way shoot-out (a Hollywood first), Blondie says to Tuco:


BLONDIE: You see, in this world, there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.


Which was a re-wording of a similar thing that Tuco had told Blondie at the beginning of the story.

[pixelthis]

When time start to look to look tough for average consumers, they stop buying. However the price of luxury consumers goods may actually go up because sellers know that only the wealthier people will continue to buy and they won't be deterred by the higher prices.

We in Canada are affected very quickly by whatever happens in the US.

WEELL, sux to be you because we here in the states are about to go through one KING hell of a depression.
you canucks are gonna be cutting open leblatts cans and licking the insides.
A guy named Clinton lifted the regulations stopping this sort of thing
(the GLASS STEGAL ACT) .
Why did he do such a stupid thing?
Why did he give clasified govt secrets to the Chinese?
Well, look at the bright side, he can always blame it on the republicans.
Of course both parties are wings of one monolithic demopublican party that is intent on destroying the country in order to bring about
a "new world order", they are in charge, so we are ALL screwed to the
wall.
Plasma, lcd, and other high tech toys are going to suffer, the poor wont be able to buy, and the rich will be buying luxeries such as food.
BUT it is still fun to come to sites like these and pretend that we still live in a world where you can buy just about anything without starving.
That tree has been chopped down, just hasnt hit the ground quite yet.

[Feanor]

Okay. I'm not understanding what you are saying here.

It's a matter of microeconomics, that is, in worsening economic times the demand curve shifts downward but more so on the low price end for luxury goods.

In normal times prices are lowered to attract people who can't afford buy a higher prices; volume of sales, however, increases sellers profits.

However in an economic downturn, the lower prices won't attract the more reluctant people because they are spending all their money on, say, food. Might as well leave the price high and extract as possible from people who are better off and less concerned with price.

There, I said the same thing again at greater length. Does this wordier explanation help, Rich?

[Feanor]

....
Plasma, lcd, and other high tech toys are going to suffer, the poor wont be able to buy, and the rich will be buying luxeries such as food.
BUT it is still fun to come to sites like these and pretend that we still live in a world where you can buy just about anything without starving.
That tree has been chopped down, just hasnt hit the ground quite yet.

Yeah, the tree is coming down. Just yesterday I finished reading Kevin Phillips' 2006 book, American Theocracy, wherein he illuminates the US' endgame as the leading world power. Three factors are limiting American options:

• A crippling dependance on oil, (whatever the source)
• The increasing religiosity that is working against rational solutions, (and is exploited and stocked by Bush-style Republicans)
• The enormous public and private debt that has been ramping up for decades ago but exploded since 2000, (the sub-prime mortgage thing being but one aspect).

He's at least right about the last one as events of the last couple of months have demonstrated.

As for blaming it all on Clinton, well, your paritsanship has given you selective apprehension of the facts.

[Mr Peabody]

A year ago what Feanor was saying held true, while Wal-Mart and similar stores had their first down turn in sales, boutique and high end stores were booming, whether it be clothes, jewelry or whatever. Now that the damage has come full circle and landed on Wall Street sales are down every where. Bush has pretty much put the skids to the middle class and McCain seems bent on doing the same kind of damage, tax breaks to oil and other corporations while taxing our health benefits, further union busting efforts, contracting out of work and shipping jobs overseas and the maverick carries on.

I don't know if anyone else has tried to sell anything online but I have had little to know decent offers on items I've placed on Audiogon or Craigslist. You'd think in the economy people would be looking for a good deal but rather the economy is past that, it's to the point I believe where people are just buying necessities.

[pixelthis]

Yeah, the tree is coming down. Just yesterday I finished reading Kevin Phillips' 2006 book, American Theocracy, wherein he illuminates the US' endgame as the leading world power. Three factors are limiting American options:

• A crippling dependance on oil, (whatever the source)
• The increasing religiosity that is working against rational solutions, (and is exploited and stocked by Bush-style Republicans)
• The enormous public and private debt that has been ramping up for decades ago but exploded since 2000, (the sub-prime mortgage thing being but one aspect).

He's at least right about the last one as events of the last couple of months have demonstrated.

As for blaming it all on Clinton, well, your paritsanship has given you selective apprehension of the facts.

You seem to be blaming it all on republicans.
they werent the ones who insisted that everybody with a pulse get a mortage to match.
Of course thats buying into the whole 2 party dynamic, which is horse
puckey.
The two "parties" are actually two wings of one monolithic party
that is controled by one worlders and has deliberately run our country into the ground, "parting out" anything of even minicusle value.
It may seem a "disaster" but its actually what they want.
You wont get a one world govt until the USA is brought down to the level of the rest of the world.
Which is the process currently taking place.
The last depression destroyed a once free republic, replacing it with
a socialistic "democracy" , the current depression will finish the demolition process, which will include all of western civilization.
DONT THINK SO? Try to find anything more complicated than clothespins still made in this country.
We are 500 trillion in debt, how will we pay that with no serious manufacturing base?
I THOUGHT SO.
(plasma is dead, and so are we)

[Mr Peabody]

Just who is behind your plot Pix? Do you think if our civilization crumbles our current congress would be in the New World Order? I don't think so. Is another country actually running the U.S. from behind the sceens? Just which nationality would be in charge? Would the U.N. rule? The same U.N. that tried to sanction Iraq around 13 times for not cooperating with inspectors. The U.N. is the only thing more pathetic than our own congress.

Let me tell ya, if DC and Wall Street falls there's still a lot of U.S. territory to cover and quite a damn few of us exercise our rights to bare arms and the rest of the job ain't going to be easy. Sure there's nukes but what good would that do. It would be like blowing up your house to get rid of the mice. Yeah, the mice are gone but so is anything else of value. What good is a giant waste land to anyone?

How in the world did this thread get out here??

[RoadRunner6]

My thread is but a pitiful shadow of its former self!

RR6

[Mr Peabody]

Ah, don't be sad RR, we need to talk about something while we are waiting for you to hang the darn thing.

[RoadRunner6]

Thanks Mr. Peabody, you have lifted my spirits (). I'm a Poly-Sci major and get overloaded at election time with all the political talk.

Seriously, my new plasma it is going on a stand. I have it set up now and going thru a break-in routine. In a few weeks I'll hopefully have time to hook up a blue ray, test it and give my feedback. The frame is very attractive and so far I'm pleased with the picture.

RR6

[GMichael]

HD HD!
Plug it in and turn it on! What's going to be the first movie?