Sorry Nightflier I had a bit of a hard day and I might have been a little harh on my reply to you. I'll listen to themwithout the sub tommorow and let you know what I think, Nightfkier is the title of a great grade B movie you can get on video that stars Migel Ferrera and was written or inspired by Steven King that you night want to check out.

Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
The reason I asked, is because in many small speaker setups (such as Bose), the sub does most of the work. So a really marginal pair of small speakers can sound good because what one really hears is the sub. If these speakers are indeed high quality, they should be compared to other quality speakers w/o using a sub.

So my question is: how good do these speakers sound on their own? Is the bass noticeably there?