onkyo TX-SR502 or HK235

[madguitar26]

am currently in the process of upgrading from an old dolby digital pioneer VSX-D557 receiver.
use 100% for movies and shows,for my music i rather listen them with my senn HD565 headphone.
i live in a small apartment therefor lots of power aint a
concerne but at leat 50 real watts is needed.

i cannot test the receivers myself for there is no return policy in my country(brazil) and uesd is the only way to go.
i had already decided on the HK 235 until i read great things about the onkyo TX-SR502.
i wanna know if the onkyo has the same power in real watts or at least an equal sound for Hometheater.
yamaha´s arent my type of sound, although i acknowledge they are great sounding,same for denon.
dont wanna spend more than 400 bucks

[madguitar26]

ad to that the MARANTZ SR4500 .

[davidb]

Don't have any personal experience with the Marantz, but I do with the other two. I'd recommend the HK hands down. It is, in reality, a much more powerful receiver, despite the advertised wattage on each. In addition to that, the HK has (at least to my ear) a less abrasive sound than the 502 and 503. Additionally, the 235 (and the 240) have a full set of pre-outs and 8-channel analog inputs, as opposed to 6-channel on the Onkyo 503 and I assume the 502 as well. This is important if you ever connect a computer to the system, as some computer games can actually support a discrete 7.1 channel output. Three of each type of digital input, as opposed to 3 opt. / 1 coax. (especially important when most DVD players, at least at entry level, will come with only coax out).
If you ever moved out of your small apartment and got a bigger place with bigger speakers to fill it up, you'd be glad to have the amperage that the HK would give you. Move up to the 240 instead of the 235, and you get a quadruple crossover (excellent feature if your system uses different type/size speakers in different positions), nameable inputs, enhanced Ipod compatability, and maybe some other stuff I'm forgetting.

[L.J.]

Additionally, the 235 (and the 240) have a full set of pre-outs and 8-channel analog inputs, as opposed to 6-channel on the Onkyo 503 and I assume the 502 as well. This is important if you ever connect a computer to the system, as some computer games can actually support a discrete 7.1 channel output. Three of each type of digital input, as opposed to 3 opt. / 1 coax. (especially important when most DVD players, at least at entry level, will come with only coax out).
If you ever moved out of your small apartment and got a bigger place with bigger speakers to fill it up, you'd be glad to have the amperage that the HK would give you. Move up to the 240 instead of the 235, and you get a quadruple crossover (excellent feature if your system uses different type/size speakers in different positions), nameable inputs, enhanced Ipod compatability, and maybe some other stuff I'm forgetting.

Excellent points

[madguitar26]

thanks for the reply
i had no ideia the HK240 was so much of an improvement over its predecessor.
just out of curiosity,what would be the step up after the HK240?
brazilian folks claim the denon avr 3805 as the living god in the HT realm,
as the NAD line of receivers.
i wanna know your input on this one

[L.J.]

thanks for the reply
i had no ideia the HK240 was so much of an improvement over its predecessor.
just out of curiosity,what would be the step up after the HK240?
brazilian folks claim the denon avr 3805 as the living god in the HT realm,
as the NAD line of receivers.
i wanna know your input on this one

Thought you were only looking to spend 400