Okay, I tried to do a search to find my answers...

[Woochifer]

I totally agree Pixel. I find it even more amazing that so many adults on these forums still play video games lol. The fact that someone outside of elementary school would even consider using one for movies still blows my mind.

EDIT: sorry if this post sounds offensive lol but it's just weird to me.

Why would it be weird? The market for video games is more than twice as big as the box office receipts for movie theaters. Elementary schoolers alone don't account for that magnitude of market activity.

As I stated in my post, people who use the PS3 to play Blu-ray discs are not encumbered by perception. The reality is that the PS3 remains a very high performance Blu-ray machine, with a lot of other functionality outside of video gaming. Just because it happens to be a gaming console is no reason to overlook its formidable Blu-ray performance.

I hardly play any games on my PS3. It use it primarily as a Blu-ray player, but I also use it as a wireless media player for streaming YouTube videos, and accessing the music and video files on my PCs.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

I totally agree Pixel. I find it even more amazing that so many adults on these forums still play video games lol. The fact that someone outside of elementary school would even consider using one for movies still blows my mind.

EDIT: sorry if this post sounds offensive lol but it's just weird to me.

Think about what you are doing Shodulik, you are agreeing with Pixel for goodness sake! He takes a small exposure to the PS3, and turns it into expert advice. Now that is big joke.

First, the PS3 is one of the best performing Blu ray players out there still. It is still one of the fastest loading, and best performing. Since it uses an all software solution for its processing, it is every function is easily upgradeable. One of the best kept secrets about it(I only learned this recently) is that during a couple of updates, the Dts decoder has been given the lastest decoding instructions which improves Dts decoding products performance. Try that with a stand alone Blu player with a SOC solution. Its upscaling algorithms have been upgraded(try that one with a stand alone as well), and the machine has the most accurate algorithms for Dolby TrueHD decoding - and all of this could be upgraded at any time, something that cannot be done with stand alone players. It will be 3D capable in another month of two. I have three of the phat boy PS3, and they make very good SACD players, and has some of the best upconverting algorithms for CD playback
With a small investment in an external program(playon) I am able to watch programming available online, including Hulu(premium), comedy central, MLB network, NFL network(I can watch both baseball and football live and in HD) just to name a small few, and it gives me access to over 10,000 different programs, not to mention netflix and pandora. I also have access to thousands of online music stations. Since it is connected to my network, it can also access a library of over a 1000 DVD's stored on an raid array of 6TB external drives, and library that continues to grow as I store more of my DVD's onto the drives.

I can do all of this without getting up from my seat. Try that with the stand lones!

So it is not so weird when you actually see all the PS3 can do, and with the Cell processor only being used at about half its potential, this machine has quite a was to go in adding other features.

Personally I think it is weird that anyone would be so stuck on its gaming capabilities, when this thing can do so much more even if a person doesn't even play a game on it. I am just now getting into playing games, and I am finding that my hand/eye coordination is greatly improving because of it. It is also a stress buster.

Lastly consider this. Every post production house, encoding and compression house, every film studio in Hollywood uses the PS3 as a quality control machine to check Blu ray movies on. Here at Disney, they have about ten of them in the post production area. Because of this, PS3 owners have experienced the fewest playback issues when it comes to both DVD's and Blu rays.

I am sure it plays Dts CD as well, as it does have a Dts decoder built in, and it can play those disc and regular CD's at 44.1khz.

[eisforelectronic]

I guess I'll try those DTS CD's again

[Swish]

....even Pixel. But seriously, my concerns about the PS3 have been refuted and I'll certainly have to give it a serious look. I do have some DTS cds that I love to play to show off my awesome 7.1 audio system, so if it can play those, as well as performing a stellar job with Blu-Ray, I think I'll be buying one instead of the Oppo. My son, who is 27 and still likes to play video games (he's a PC freak by the way, so he's not playing checkers), will go bonkers with that and a 110" screen. He has his own place, but I'm betting he'll want to visit us more often.

You people are the best!

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

For those of you who are wondering how to play Dts CD on the PS3, you must set your sound settings to 44.1khz, and unclick 88.2 and 176.4 and they should play just fine. The default setting for the PS3 is 48khz, which does not allow 44.1khz sample rate Dts Cd's to play.

Don't forget to return the sound settings to being able to sample all formats after listening.

[pixelthis]

I use HDMI

Should be no problem.
A DTS CD has a DTS signal just like a DVD, should pass through an HDMI with no problem.
YEP, my DIANA KRALL disc plays fine, sounds pretty good, as a matter of fact.

[eisforelectronic]

Should be no problem.
A DTS CD has a DTS signal just like a DVD, should pass through an HDMI with no problem.
YEP, my DIANA KRALL disc plays fine, sounds pretty good, as a matter of fact.

Then I need to find my Diana Krall DTS Cd! Ha ha!

[harley .guy07]

I have the oppo bdp-83 and in my opinion there is know question which one is better for home theater, home audio, or any other use other than gaming. I love my oppo and will stand by it especially while using it as a transport for my ps audio dac.

[pixelthis]

Think about what you are doing Shodulik, you are agreeing with Pixel for goodness sake! He takes a small exposure to the PS3, and turns it into expert advice. Now that is big joke.

the path to all knowledge

First, the PS3 is one of the best performing Blu ray players out there still. It is still one of the fastest loading, and best performing. Since it uses an all software solution for its processing, it is every function is easily upgradeable. One of the best kept secrets about it(I only learned this recently) is that during a couple of updates, the Dts decoder has been given the lastest decoding instructions which improves Dts decoding products performance. Try that with a stand alone Blu player with a SOC solution. Its upscaling algorithms have been upgraded(try that one with a stand alone as well), and the machine has the most accurate algorithms for Dolby TrueHD decoding - and all of this could be upgraded at any time, something that cannot be done with stand alone players. It will be 3D capable in another month of two. I have three of the phat boy PS3, and they make very good SACD players, and has some of the best upconverting algorithms for CD playback
With a small investment in an external program(playon) I am able to watch programming available online, including Hulu(premium), comedy central, MLB network, NFL network(I can watch both baseball and football live and in HD) just to name a small few, and it gives me access to over 10,000 different programs, not to mention netflix and pandora. I also have access to thousands of online music stations. Since it is connected to my network, it can also access a library of over a 1000 DVD's stored on an raid array of 6TB external drives, and library that continues to grow as I store more of my DVD's onto the drives.

BLAH BLAH BLAH.
The load time on the PS3 I used was not that much faster than the SAMSUNG my buddy wound up buying.
AND NOW WE ARE ON COST. Paying extra for a PS3 when you can get a BLU player
for half the price is silly, like buying a hot rod that will do 200 mph when you can only do
seventy. NO ONE WILL NOTICE THE DIFF.

I can do all of this without getting up from my seat. Try that with the stand lones!

like you couldn't use the exercise

So it is not so weird when you actually see all the PS3 can do, and with the Cell processor only being used at about half its potential, this machine has quite a was to go in adding other features.

Most of which you don't need.
Any player these days can be easily upgraded

Personally I think it is weird that anyone would be so stuck on its gaming capabilities, when this thing can do so much more even if a person doesn't even play a game on it. I am just now getting into playing games, and I am finding that my hand/eye coordination is greatly improving because of it. It is also a stress buster.

You don't have a problem with stress. You are a carrier.

Lastly consider this. Every post production house, encoding and compression house, every film studio in Hollywood uses the PS3 as a quality control machine to check Blu ray movies on. Here at Disney, they have about ten of them in the post production area. Because of this, PS3 owners have experienced the fewest playback issues when it comes to both DVD's and Blu rays.

EXPLAINS a lot about ALL OF THE COMPATIBILITY issues.

I am sure it plays Dts CD as well, as it does have a Dts decoder built in, and it can play those disc and regular CD's at 44.1khz.

Of course it plays DTS CD, every machine on earth that passes a digital signal will play a DTS CD, you just have to pass it to a receiver with a DTS decoder, or play it on a DVD
or BLU player with internal decorders. A 30 dollar CD player with a digital out will play a DTS CD. Shows what you know, not that it matters, format wont be around that long,
if it even still is.
TO REPEAT , buying a PS3 and paying the extra cash is silly for most people.
THE TEN PEOPLE that buy a Sony 8 thousand dollar 3D front projector (that you think will be a "mainstream" item) might have use for one.
IF A PS3 has such a great form factor, why doesnt Sony put the guts in a standalone?
Because they(unlike you) understand that it is engineered for gaming, and a lot
on it is overkill for the average user, although it might make a great device for production houses to use...oh never mind.
NOT EVERYBODY IS GROSSLY OVERPAID, and gets production samples, and can
sit around watching grossly over engineered equipment playing mediocre movies whos
one claim to fame is that stuff comes out and hits you in the face.
Although once it sees your face I AM SURE it will turn around and head back into the screen.

[Swish]

...so now I have to get my room set up ASAP, but there's much to be done. I still need to get all my A/V cables and speaker wires run, paint the room, build and install my screen, buy and install my projector, then set up the room. Anybody free next weekend?