The new Pioneer receivers are coming !

[Dmax]

If you like the VSX-815 then you will love the new VSX-816 . I cant wait to see it,even the new VSX- 516 which is there cheapest is a 7.1

[thekid]

If you like the VSX-815 then you will love the new VSX-816 . I cant wait to see it,even the new VSX- 516 which is there cheapest is a 7.1

That might explain why my local BB no longer carries the 815 that I just bought there a month ago. They only had the 1015 and 515. I will have to check out the 816 to see if this an upgrade or just a reason to hold/increase price points. In either case the older models still maybe available at a discount.

[thekid]

If you like the VSX-815 then you will love the new VSX-816 . I cant wait to see it,even the new VSX- 516 which is there cheapest is a 7.1

Dmax

Where did you get the info on the 816?
I went on the Pioneer website and did not see it listed under their receivers.

[Dmax]

Dmax

Where did you get the info on the 816?
I went on the Pioneer website and did not see it listed under their receivers.

www.JR.com if you want to order one in advance, there are no pictures of them but they discuss all of the new features they have and that they will be arriving very soon . Pioneer rarely shows there new receivers on there website before they hit stores.

[Bigfishe]

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...805832,00.html

[thekid]

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...805832,00.html

Thanx Bigfishe

I only looked in their product site. Appears from the breif release the only dif between the 815 and the 816 is the addition of XM radio capabilities. If any one is considering this unit I would think you can get the 815 at a discount rather than paying full price for a 816 if the XM feature is not important.

[Dmax]

Thanx Bigfishe

I only looked in their product site. Appears from the breif release the only dif between the 815 and the 816 is the addition of XM radio capabilities. If any one is considering this unit I would think you can get the 815 at a discount rather than paying full price for a 816 if the XM feature is not important.

I find the new 516 quite impressive and cheap.

[Supamike]

Sounds nice, but why not MSRP it at $399 and add HDMI support? Seems that's almost like releasing a new computer without USB support.

Edit: Just noticed that even the Pioneer Elite VSX-59TXi (MSRP $4k) doesn't support HDMI... what's up with that? Why would they build in HDMI support on their Plasma and DVD players, and not on their high-end recievers? Perhaps they will support it in the newer mid-high end range?

I know their warranty isn't as good, but I keep seeing Pioneer mentioned with Yamaha, Denon, and Onkyo as one of the top 4-5 brands. What sets them behind the others? It appears that from a value perspective, they may be on par (esp. if they add support for new tech).

Just curious... if you own a Pioneer, what do you think of it? Are you satisified with your purchase?

[Woochifer]

Sounds nice, but why not MSRP it at $399 and add HDMI support? Seems that's almost like releasing a new computer without USB support.

Edit: Just noticed that even the Pioneer Elite VSX-59TXi (MSRP $4k) doesn't support HDMI... what's up with that? Why would they build in HDMI support on their Plasma and DVD players, and not on their high-end recievers? Perhaps they will support it in the newer mid-high end range?

Patience! Patience! I think it's a bit soon for HDMI to start showing up in entry level receivers, considering that they're only starting to make their way through the midlevel ranks. Keep in mind that HDMI has been around for less than two years, and only started showing up on receivers/processors last year. Flagship receivers are usually not updated annually like the entry level and midlevel models, so give it time. The rate of adoption will of course depend on what the competition does.

I know their warranty isn't as good, but I keep seeing Pioneer mentioned with Yamaha, Denon, and Onkyo as one of the top 4-5 brands. What sets them behind the others? It appears that from a value perspective, they may be on par (esp. if they add support for new tech).

Pioneer Elite's warranty runs two years, which is on par with what the others give you (Yamaha's RX-Z series and Sony's ES series models have five-year warranties in the U.S.). Pioneer's getting noticed because they've put out a decent run of good reliable receivers the last couple of years. The VSX-1015 in particular seems like an excellent buy for the features and purported sound quality that it delivers. The others are consistently mentioned because they've put out competitive and reliable products year after year. Other companies like harman/kardon, Sony, Marantz, and yes, Pioneer, have had bad stretches at some point in the last 10 years, and that takes time to recover from.

Yamaha usually does not take the lead with offering the most features for the money. If anything, over the years, their receivers have been more expensive than comparable offerings from Sony, Pioneer, JVC, Kenwood, etc. because of their reputation for making more ruggedly built and reliable products. Pioneer's obviously making a push to improve their products, and reestablishing their reputation by undercutting the others on price.

[ttskyline01]

Sounds nice, but why not MSRP it at $399 and add HDMI support? Seems that's almost like releasing a new computer without USB support.

Edit: Just noticed that even the Pioneer Elite VSX-59TXi (MSRP $4k) doesn't support HDMI... what's up with that? Why would they build in HDMI support on their Plasma and DVD players, and not on their high-end recievers? Perhaps they will support it in the newer mid-high end range?

I know their warranty isn't as good, but I keep seeing Pioneer mentioned with Yamaha, Denon, and Onkyo as one of the top 4-5 brands. What sets them behind the others? It appears that from a value perspective, they may be on par (esp. if they add support for new tech).

Just curious... if you own a Pioneer, what do you think of it? Are you satisified with your purchase?

I own the Pioneer VSX-1015TX and i must say from a Former Yamaha owner and still a big Yamaha fan, I must say that the 1015 is a BEAST!!!!!!! I can clearly see why people talk so highly about this receiver!!