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    Nervous about plasma...should I be?

    I am trying to decide on either the Samsung PN50A550 plasma or the Samsung LN52A550. I like the idea of the truer colors and black levels of the plasma but the burn in makes me nervous. I read that things are much better than they used to be but I still hear that people have to run screensavers periodically to get rid of burn. I watch mostly HD shows on TV and Blurays. The Blurays are mostly 2.35:1 so there will be bars. Am I going to run into a hassle where as I wouldn't with LCD? The plasma is cheaper so I would probably head that way if the burn in isn't as bad as some people make it out to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffKnob

    Please no input from Pixelthis.

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    I just noticed this. "2 - 15" Dayton HF subwoofers
    Two Soundstream M1 monoblock amps for the subwoofer
    "

    Oh d'm!

    Sorry, back to the plasma. Shouldn't be a problem unless you are buying a ten year old model. Don't be nervous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffKnob
    I am trying to decide on either the Samsung PN50A550 plasma or the Samsung LN52A550. I like the idea of the truer colors and black levels of the plasma but the burn in makes me nervous. I read that things are much better than they used to be but I still hear that people have to run screensavers periodically to get rid of burn. I watch mostly HD shows on TV and Blurays. The Blurays are mostly 2.35:1 so there will be bars. Am I going to run into a hassle where as I wouldn't with LCD? The plasma is cheaper so I would probably head that way if the burn in isn't as bad as some people make it out to be.

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    Funniest thing I've read all day.

    Like I said in another thread Jeffknob, a coworker has a plasma that's about ten years old and it still has a great picture. I'm there every year for a party he throws, and there's no evidence whatsoever of burn-in. It's a first gen Pioneer as well. If you can get a plasma TV that's got a great picture and costs less than an LCD, you should jump on it IMO.

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    Funniest thing I've read all day.

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    Go for the Plasma, you'll be glad you did. Even the bargain-basement Plasmas are a step up, and speaking of price, they are less expensive than LCD just about everywhere.

    Nice sub setup. Which Daytons did you get? DIY's?

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    Jumpin jesus, where do all you people get this horrible information about burn-in? we're not in 1985 for cryin out loud.

    Stop listening to the so called experts at the Best Buys, targets, Walmarts, etc.

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    Burn-in is dead! DEAD!

    DEAD DEAD DEAD!!!

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    We can only hope Pix doesn't stumble into this discussion....

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    What are the odds that he will not post anything here? Send all bets to:

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
    Go for the Plasma, you'll be glad you did. Even the bargain-basement Plasmas are a step up, and speaking of price, they are less expensive than LCD just about everywhere.

    Nice sub setup. Which Daytons did you get? DIY's?
    I have two of the RSS390HF subwoofers each in their own 3cu ft enclosure sealed. I have 240W going to each but that is only half of what they should be getting. I could upgrade the amps but these will already make you nauseous if turned up to high. They have very clean sound.
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    i've had a panasonic plasma for over a year now and i've played more than 200hours of xbox 360 on it with zero burn in problems (sad i know lol). my ex-GF used to watch a ton of SDTV as well and there's not a sign of burn-in near the black bars

    if that doesn't ease your concerns i dont know what else will.

    simply put, unless you fall asleep drunk playing NES you're not going to have a problem.
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    Go for the plasma. I think the only reason to consider the LCD is if day time glare is a problem.
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    Another thing to consider is that most decent video cards now have a HDMI out, so that is nice as well.

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    Very nice subs, indeed. Dayton's got to be the best bang-for-the-buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f0rge
    ... and i've played more than 200hours of xbox 360 on it with zero burn in problems (sad i know lol). my ex-GF used to watch a ton of SDTV as well ...
    Lol, is the ex due to the 200 hours of XBox?
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    There's a huge difference between temporary image retention and permanent burn-in. Nowadays, even temporary image retention is not very common. I've had my TV since October, and image retention has only shown up twice (in one case it was a white-on-black static image that was on-screen for roughly 8 hours in a row, and the other case it was a 4:3 blackout pillar box that was continuously on screen for more than 6 hours). In both cases, it went away within half an hour of normal viewing. With movies, I've not run into any image retention, even though most of my movie viewing is letterboxed.

    Between the improvements to the phosphors used in the newer panels, and the other prevention measures used (pixel shifting, greyscaling the pillarboxed areas, etc.), I highly doubt that you'll run into any permanent burn-in unless you intentionally try to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven
    Go for the plasma. I think the only reason to consider the LCD is if day time glare is a problem.
    Glare is an issue with some Samsung LCDs models as well because of the increasing use of glossy screens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woochifer
    There's a huge difference between temporary image retention and permanent burn-in. Nowadays, even temporary image retention is not very common. I've had my TV since October, and image retention has only shown up twice (in one case it was a white-on-black static image that was on-screen for roughly 8 hours in a row, and the other case it was a 4:3 blackout pillar box that was continuously on screen for more than 6 hours). In both cases, it went away within half an hour of normal viewing. With movies, I've not run into any image retention, even though most of my movie viewing is letterboxed.

    Between the improvements to the phosphors used in the newer panels, and the other prevention measures used (pixel shifting, greyscaling the pillarboxed areas, etc.), I highly doubt that you'll run into any permanent burn-in unless you intentionally try to.
    SO you have had your set since october, barely past break-in, and you already
    have had an incident of image retention?
    You poor sad fool.
    You dont realise just what a forecast of DOOM this is do you?
    Oh well, maybe you can get in on the class action lawsuit, which is certainly going to be in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    SO you have had your set since october, barely past break-in, and you already
    have had an incident of image retention?
    You poor sad fool.
    You dont realise just what a forecast of DOOM this is do you?
    Oh well, maybe you can get in on the class action lawsuit, which is certainly going to be in the future.
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    Looking at the TV right now, no burn in, no image retention, better picture quality than any LCD set I've seen ... and you think this is the basis of a lawsuit?! You must be the "fool for a client" that law school professors talk about ... THAT desperate to be famous, eh?
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    I got the Panasonic TH-50PZ80U and the picture is amazing! It has much better blacks than any LCD I have ever seen.

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