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    Cool And My New Tv Is....

    Well, what else are you gonna do with a windfall?
    42" of LCD 1080p 24fps three HDMI FUN FUN FUN.
    And 1080p does look beter, at least to me.
    Mr P, you're missing out, and at only 898 its a bargain.
    bESIDES, this chick was on the box.
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    BESIDES without prattling on about "grey" blacks and getting everything else wrong, whats Sir talky gonna do?
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    I recently saw TV commercials about a Vizio model with 120 Hz refresh rate. Is that this one?

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    Congrats on the new set Pixie, here is a review with some settings to optimize your new set: http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdt...f-review.shtml

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    Pix your raise from SSA was enough to buy a new TV, retirement must be good A gain in size and rez, good deal. You should have gotten a DLP though.

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    Sniff, sniff, sniff. Oh, this is so, so sad!

    Just think, for a measly $100 more he could have bought the Panasonic 42" plasma (1080p), and for $100 less the Panny 42" plasma (768p) at Costco. Oh, I almost forgot ... plasma is dead!

    Vizio 42" LCD (1080p)

    PICTURE QUALITY RATINGS: 77/100
    OVERALL RATING: 79.25/100


    Panny 42" plasma (768p) ... (the 1080p will undoubtedly also score in the 90's)

    PICTURE QUALITY RATING: 96
    OVERALL RATING: 93.5

    Sorry, I've got to head for the bunker now! (I hear incoming)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    I recently saw TV commercials about a Vizio model with 120 Hz refresh rate. Is that this one?
    NAH, have you seen what they are charging for those?
    Not worth it, really.
    What I really wanted was 24 fps, to finally get rid of 3:2 pulldown,
    and this set has that.
    It also has "dynamic contrast" but that disables backlight control,
    which you need, I mean this sucker is BRIGHT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRunner6
    Sniff, sniff, sniff. Oh, this is so, so sad!

    Just think, for a measly $100 more he could have bought the Panasonic 42" plasma (1080p), and for $100 less the Panny 42" plasma (768p) at Costco. Oh, I almost forgot ... plasma is dead!

    Vizio 42" LCD (1080p)

    PICTURE QUALITY RATINGS: 77/100
    OVERALL RATING: 79.25/100


    Panny 42" plasma (768p) ... (the 1080p will undoubtedly also score in the 90's)

    PICTURE QUALITY RATING: 96
    OVERALL RATING: 93.5

    Sorry, I've got to head for the bunker now! (I hear incoming)

    RR6
    All of you plasma fanboys need to be worried, plasma is selling for less now.
    And I could have had a bigger plasma, but Plasma is dead
    after all, as for DLP I actually went to circuit city to check out the
    999$ 50" samsung, but it was gone.
    About the best deal was the Vizio 720p 42" plasma, 800 bucks!
    EVER THOUGHT YOU'D SEE THAT?
    A plasma 42" for 800 bucks??!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by elapsed
    Congrats on the new set Pixie, here is a review with some settings to optimize your new set: http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdt...f-review.shtml

    cheers,
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    I agree with some of what they are saying, some is just wrong.
    The scaling is amazing, one of the reasons I bought it.
    "Washed" out color? Depends on your point of view, most prefer
    color a little oversaturated, this set has expremly accurate color,
    might look a little "washed out" to some but I HAVE TO WORK
    on most sets to get the color this good.
    Color temp is perfect also, like they said.
    But you do have color settings for each input, they are wrong on that.
    AND the "green" tint? Don't see it, my guess is that when they turned
    up the color they upset the balance a bit.
    AND MOTION LAG? Again I haven't seen any noticable "lag".
    Watched crank last night on blu, a very fast film, no lag there.
    One other thing about 1080p, you think 720/1080i has detail, you can see every pimple on mrs Cruises face on Batman begins.
    Again its amazing that you can get this much TV for the price.
    Sony had their 40" for 1200$ but I just didn't see the value.
    One of the major reasons I bought this one, the laundry list matches.
    By this I mean that they seem to have built this set according to the "laundry list " most HT fans have.
    Good color temp.
    Good color, period.
    Great scaling, and great geometrics, hardly any distortion.
    And finally (glory halleujia) contrast set to FIFTY instead of a hundred
    out of the box, first Time I have ever seen that.
    At least it seems that somebody is paying attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
    Pix your raise from SSA was enough to buy a new TV, retirement must be good A gain in size and rez, good deal. You should have gotten a DLP though.
    Don't put me out to pasture yet P, THIS WAS VACATION PAY.
    Not over the hill yet, close enough that I can see people dying in agony
    on the other side, but not quite over it yet.
    And DLP? When you go 1080p trade out of yours, or at least get one powered by LCD.
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    ANYWAY thanks for the input guys.
    I'll try those setings.
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    Okay...

    First of all, congrats on your purchase. I hope the set is EVERYTHING you want it to be. Second, I've heard a LOT about Visio and since you're an informed and intelligent person I trust you to wring out of it what they promised you. Thirdly, thanks for giving us your impression, so we can educate our friends.

    Lastly, enjoy your new T.V.

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    Congrats on the new toy Pix.
    Yeah, I agree that 1080p is better. Much less blur during movement.
    Nothing wrong with LCD either. Hope you know I've just been busting on you.

    What's next on the upgrade road?
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    Congratz on the new Vizio. I've been hearing lots of good things about that set. And the price was right. Everything else be damned, I say.

    As for someone noting that plasma is dead, if it means that I'll be able to get a 55" Panasonic plasma for dirt cheap prices, then I'll be the first one to sound the death knell!!! It will take me some time to get used to LCD. (About as long as it will take my plasma to hit the skids. 5 - 6 years, give or take?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Congrats on the new toy Pix.
    Yeah, I agree that 1080p is better. Much less blur during movement.
    Nothing wrong with LCD either. Hope you know I've just been busting on you.

    What's next on the upgrade road?
    A receiver, probably.
    But I would like some new CM-5 beemers, although that would be hard to justify with my 602's going strong, but I think that if you want English
    made B&w you had better hurry.
    HOWEVER IT will probably be a receiver, or preamp I can plug into my Integra(I mean this thing sounds good)
    When I BOUGHT IT 1200 was a price for a lot of receiver.
    BUT THE "PLAIN JANE" tracks on Blu sound so good I am in no hurry.
    And I can take a joke, which is why I put up with you, after all I can be a bit of a smartass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssJazz
    Congratz on the new Vizio. I've been hearing lots of good things about that set. And the price was right. Everything else be damned, I say.

    As for someone noting that plasma is dead, if it means that I'll be able to get a 55" Panasonic plasma for dirt cheap prices, then I'll be the first one to sound the death knell!!! It will take me some time to get used to LCD. (About as long as it will take my plasma to hit the skids. 5 - 6 years, give or take?)

    :-)
    My brother bought a Plasma, a 42" SAMSUNG.
    Plasma looks good, but LCD has advanced to the point that you don't
    need the compromise and technical trickery of Plasma.
    I have always strived for simplicity, and I have one display,
    at one time I took my samsung computer monitor and hooked it up to my cable box until I could get a new set, but that option is closed to me now, and knowing my luck I would get a PLASMA that had gas that was just waiting to catch a train outta the envelope.
    A LCD is simple, you can set a lamp behind it and get a picture,
    practically no chance of it becoming a high tech, high price paperweight.
    SURE PICTURE Q is important, but the best part of PQ is having a
    picture
    .
    Like a lot who have put up with vaccume tubes, waiting forever for a solid state TV, I am not ready to go back to the past with a plasma,
    something that might last 10 years when a LCD lasts twenty.
    people dont know just how hard it was to make a CRT, even after decades of experience, I look at that thin glass envelope and my backhairs stand up.
    You want one fine, but its like one of those Rube Goldberg machines
    that take a hundred componets to turn on a light switch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worf101
    First of all, congrats on your purchase. I hope the set is EVERYTHING you want it to be. Second, I've heard a LOT about Visio and since you're an informed and intelligent person I trust you to wring out of it what they promised you. Thirdly, thanks for giving us your impression, so we can educate our friends.

    Lastly, enjoy your new T.V.

    Da Worfster
    THANKS, that means a lot coming from a Klingon, I mean, you guys hardly ever open up.
    I am "imformed", most of it from the school of hard knocks, I learned
    a lot of what I know the hard way.
    You gotta understand, I prize PQ, but also care about price, engineering, and overall quality.
    My Vizio is cheap, sure, but I think a good compromise between even cheaper sets and higher price ones that are basically selling a name.
    Most of the components and parts for these sets come from the same place, basically, and I think Vizios execution of the tech, while bordering on strange sometimes, is about as good as most.
    Also keep in mind that my remote still has buttons that work with this set,
    making up for the shortcomings of this sets remote, which is the worst remote I have ever seen, and that covers a lot of territory.
    But overall a pleasant experience, just if you buy one of these get a
    real remote loaner to program yours at the house.
    This is surprizing considering the great one on my older Vizio.
    Macros are still easy to program, however, thanks to seperate input buttons, but the guy who put the aspect ratio control in the MENU
    should be shot, literally, good thing I already had one on my universal that works.
    ANYWAY THANKS, AND LIVE LONG AND PROSPER
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    I guess if you can live with motion blur found on LCD's, then good for you!!

    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    My brother bought a Plasma, a 42" SAMSUNG.
    Plasma looks good, but LCD has advanced to the point that you don't
    need the compromise and technical trickery of Plasma.
    I have always strived for simplicity, and I have one display,
    at one time I took my samsung computer monitor and hooked it up to my cable box until I could get a new set, but that option is closed to me now, and knowing my luck I would get a PLASMA that had gas that was just waiting to catch a train outta the envelope.
    A LCD is simple, you can set a lamp behind it and get a picture,
    practically no chance of it becoming a high tech, high price paperweight.
    SURE PICTURE Q is important, but the best part of PQ is having a
    picture
    .
    Like a lot who have put up with vaccume tubes, waiting forever for a solid state TV, I am not ready to go back to the past with a plasma,
    something that might last 10 years when a LCD lasts twenty.
    people dont know just how hard it was to make a CRT, even after decades of experience, I look at that thin glass envelope and my backhairs stand up.
    You want one fine, but its like one of those Rube Goldberg machines
    that take a hundred componets to turn on a light switch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duds
    I guess if you can live with motion blur found on LCD's, then good for you!!
    Kinda like living with bigfoot, you never see it.
    I have actively looked for this "motion blur" and outside of a few isolated instances have never seen any, and the few momentary
    instances werent distracting at all.
    With a 5 ms response on this set its largely a thing of the past.
    You pays your money and you takes your choices, mine is a few minor
    problems still to be ironed out.
    After decades of production CRT still had problems, some major.
    You want a plasma in a thin glass envelope , whose production of radiation , especially UV hasnt been tested, and which , if the gas leaks,
    (and it does more than they would like to admit) would turn it into an expensive paperweight, then go right ahead.
    Before you defend a plasma, take a look at a eight year old one,
    if you can find one that still works.
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    Guess the truce is over.
    Let me call in my guy...
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    hmm, lets see, you say you have never seen this motion blur, but then you say you have seen it. make up your mind idiot.

    show me some articles about plasmas leaking glass, i'd love to see them.

    If plasma is dead, then why is your favorite company making them?

    i'd be willing to bet i could find a lot of 8 year old lcds that have sh*t the bed too. weak argument

    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Kinda like living with bigfoot, you never see it.
    I have actively looked for this "motion blur" and outside of a few isolated instances have never seen any, and the few momentary
    instances werent distracting at all.
    With a 5 ms response on this set its largely a thing of the past.
    You pays your money and you takes your choices, mine is a few minor
    problems still to be ironed out.
    After decades of production CRT still had problems, some major.
    You want a plasma in a thin glass envelope , whose production of radiation , especially UV hasnt been tested, and which , if the gas leaks,
    (and it does more than they would like to admit) would turn it into an expensive paperweight, then go right ahead.
    Before you defend a plasma, take a look at a eight year old one,
    if you can find one that still works.

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    Actually for once I may have to agree with pixie on this one.. I've seen many, many plasma's with outrageous burn-in in airport lounges and restaurants. You don't see this as often today as they have mostly all been replaced with LCD's.

    There are only three plasma panel manufacturers remaining in the world; Matsu****a (Panasonic), Samsung, and LGE. Both Pioneer and Fujitsu-Hitachi are exiting the plasma market. The Vizio plasma's are sourced from Samsung or LGE, Vizio does not produce plasma panels themselves.

    Although picture quality is outstanding on plasma, and burn-in is no longer an issue, the plasma market is very quickly dying altogether. Though I'd still purchase a 720p Panasonic over a 1080p Sharp, Samsung or Vizio in a heartbeat if they are in the same price category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duds
    hmm, lets see, you say you have never seen this motion blur, but then you say you have seen it. make up your mind idiot.

    show me some articles about plasmas leaking glass, i'd love to see them.

    If plasma is dead, then why is your favorite company making them?

    i'd be willing to bet i could find a lot of 8 year old lcds that have sh*t the bed too. weak argument
    I am an "idiot"? Well, let me rephrase, I thought I MIGHT have seen a bit of "bluring on an occasion or several, but it was so slight I cant really be sure. Hows that genius?
    The problems with cable and sat broadcast far outweigh it for sure.
    As for plasma problems a poster on this board had a 2700 dollar
    "problem" with his plasma, a plasma where I work died, the gas left,
    and I read an article a few months back about a Sanyo that died in a similar fashion.
    Mostly it was a problem several months back, and they have claimed to adress the problem, but I dont want to be a guinea pig.
    But mostly I hate complicated solutions to problems.
    Plasma was first on the scene, and was the answer to the most persistent question in electronics, mainly, "when are we gonna get those sharp hang on the wall TV sets like you see in sci fi movies?".
    And it served a purpose.
    But now all they are is a glass envelope that requires thousands of volts
    to work, filled with gas that, if it leaks will kill the set.
    If it falls on the floor you have glass all over the place, same if the local child hits it with a baseball.
    LCD got cheaper faster than anyone ever could imagine, is it perfect?
    HELL no! But it does a very good job to be such a young form factor,
    it uses less energy, is safer overall, and more reliable and longer lasting, it will be a good bridge to OLED, which is around the corner.
    Even the great unwashed, not well known for their electronics
    knowledge, are figuring out what you eveidently havent, that there just is no reason for plasma, and you call me an idiot.
    If plasma has a better pic its a slight difference and not worth the trouble of putting up with one, and that is my rant for the day
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    Quote Originally Posted by elapsed
    Actually for once I may have to agree with pixie on this one.. I've seen many, many plasma's with outrageous burn-in in airport lounges and restaurants. You don't see this as often today as they have mostly all been replaced with LCD's.

    There are only three plasma panel manufacturers remaining in the world; Matsu****a (Panasonic), Samsung, and LGE. Both Pioneer and Fujitsu-Hitachi are exiting the plasma market. The Vizio plasma's are sourced from Samsung or LGE, Vizio does not produce plasma panels themselves.

    Although picture quality is outstanding on plasma, and burn-in is no longer an issue, the plasma market is very quickly dying altogether. Though I'd still purchase a 720p Panasonic over a 1080p Sharp, Samsung or Vizio in a heartbeat if they are in the same price category.

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    Thanks elapsed.
    BURN IN was my major concern, since I use my HT display for a computer monitor.
    As much as I enjoy the banter from you guys I dont want it on the screen while I try to watch the latest jess alba movie.
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    WOW!! now there's some convincing evidence!!!

    OH well Pixie, if you are happy with your Vizio and can live with the fact that it doesnt hold a candle to plasmas from Pioneer, Panasonic, Samsung, etc, then so be it!!

    have fun watching!


    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    I am an "idiot"? Well, let me rephrase, I thought I MIGHT have seen a bit of "bluring on an occasion or several, but it was so slight I cant really be sure. Hows that genius?
    The problems with cable and sat broadcast far outweigh it for sure.
    As for plasma problems a poster on this board had a 2700 dollar
    "problem" with his plasma, a plasma where I work died, the gas left,
    and I read an article a few months back about a Sanyo that died in a similar fashion.
    Mostly it was a problem several months back, and they have claimed to adress the problem, but I dont want to be a guinea pig.
    But mostly I hate complicated solutions to problems.
    Plasma was first on the scene, and was the answer to the most persistent question in electronics, mainly, "when are we gonna get those sharp hang on the wall TV sets like you see in sci fi movies?".
    And it served a purpose.
    But now all they are is a glass envelope that requires thousands of volts
    to work, filled with gas that, if it leaks will kill the set.
    If it falls on the floor you have glass all over the place, same if the local child hits it with a baseball.
    LCD got cheaper faster than anyone ever could imagine, is it perfect?
    HELL no! But it does a very good job to be such a young form factor,
    it uses less energy, is safer overall, and more reliable and longer lasting, it will be a good bridge to OLED, which is around the corner.
    Even the great unwashed, not well known for their electronics
    knowledge, are figuring out what you eveidently havent, that there just is no reason for plasma, and you call me an idiot.
    If plasma has a better pic its a slight difference and not worth the trouble of putting up with one, and that is my rant for the day

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