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I heard HD gives you cancer! It's true, I read it in a book. It also makes your hair line recede and your testicles shrivel!
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Dang if that's true then Robert should look like Gollum by now! Makes sense actually...I can see him crouched in the corner eating raw fish and wrestling with the demons in his head, all the while trying to protect 'his precious' HDTV :)
Actually I guess that joke is wasted on Robert since he does not go to the movies, refuses to watch DVD's, and LOTR won't be out on HD-DVD for another 3 years or so...if at all.
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I see you finally let go of the losing proposition that was your quotes. I've been flipping the switch but you didn't seem to have a bulb in the socket. Better late than never.
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quote 1 includes information as recent as October of 2005 and includes 2004 actual sales. Not sure where you come up with 5 years old. Oh yeah, I forgot who I was dealing with. My bad.
Quote 2-Yeah, 13% v. 10%. I can see why you are so bothered. Hope you were able to catch Whopner, Rainman.
Quote 3-If you want the full cites on the source-subscribe and look it up for yourself. You're telling me you're lazy too? I mean come on, I've already had to explain your own quotes to you surely you can carry some of the load.
quote 4 - a blog? Well, yeah I guess it's a blog. A blog that includes the cites for the information. He refers to and names three independent research firms. Holy carp-what on earth do you think the Jupiter Research Company is? You do remember citing them, right? I was wrong, you really may be that stupid.
And in the end, we really can be done with this. People capable of comprehension know what's going on here. If there was any doubt at all:
"You know what, I'm really tired of arguing with NON-HD people that DON'T EVEN HAVE A MULTI-MEDIA ROOM! Tell ya' what, get HD & a Multi-Media Room then let's talk. After all this is the HOME THEATER FORUM....lol!!! And I wouldn't qualify anybody as having a HT that didn't have an HD equipped HOME THEATER (Home Theater Forum....you get it?)"
Well, Robert I do have HD, and have for a while. I have what could be called a multi-media room if I was a pompous jag off. I actually think of it as my HT and in your world it wouldn't qualify as that. In the end it's a glorified family room, mainly because I have a family. I also read the morning paper in there while I listen to some music. Occasionally I have friends over and we'll sit in there and visit. I certainly don't have what anyone on earth would call a "dedicated home theater". It's got a fireplace in it after all.
And I am being dead serious here, my moment of denseness if you will. I really don't get your parting shot at all. You say "And I wouldn't qualify anybody as having a HT that didn't have an HD equipped HOME THEATER (Home Theater Forum....you get it?)" I really don't get it. If it was "High Definition Forum" then I'd get it. Kind of. Are you saying that without HD you can't have a Home Theater? Seriously?? What have people been doing the last 15 years? In your little private world the only movies that are available are broadcast movies so now watching broadcast tv is the only ht? Personally I think you've lost it.
Nice chatting with you. At the very least we've uncovered one nut job and given everyone else a little drama to follow.
Regards,
jc
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Originally Posted by Jim Clark
And in the end, we really can be done with this.....jc
I know you have trouble reading entire post, so I'll make this short for you. Wow! From reading your post history, I never realized what a Douch-Bag you are! Being you must really suck?
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Originally Posted by Jim Clark
...only movies that are available are broadcast movies so now watching broadcast tv is the only ht?
You really didn't read my post! You REALLY need to crawl out from under that rock you been hiding! D-VHS, More than 23 HD channels, 5 HD-Movie channels (uncut & uncensored), and 50hrs of HD DVR........you must really be confused about what's out there.
Here is todays HD Line-up
And here is D-VHS titles
You guys don't have to like it, but I'm certainly enjoying it!
JC, I guess you didn't want to drop it?
Robert
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Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
....watch your HD whilst jacking off...it gives you such a huge boner.
OMG, we got the Village Idiot back (Hey Moe!)....lol! You should be happy to know that Larry & Curly left bread crumbs for you to find your way back!
Robert
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Originally Posted by robert393
Congratulations! I'll quote the link your friend JC gave me :
"High Definition" for all of you dinosaur sports fans out there who are still not familiar with what we like to call "modern technology." How is that Model-T holding up, anyway? You figure out the Hula Hoop yet? Back away from the Rubik's Cube, man, you're scaring me."- Quoted from here
Wait for what? It's here, and it's beautiful!
Of course you are not the first. GM, you are not the first to say anything. You are a "bandwagon" person. Somebody says something, then you hop on the bandwagon. Your a Parrot. You hear "Robert's smug" (imagine a parrot's voice here), then you repeat 'Robert's smug....Robert's smug"....lol!
Look, I could REALLY give flying flip if the total percentage of American Households with HDTV is 10%, 13% or 20%. HDTV is here, and it's growing baby! But the most important thing is, I'm enjoying it EVERYDAY!
Do you hear that Parrot in the distance....LOL!!! Now you're Parroting MY lines....LOL!
GM, you started this thread, and you have had given ZERO input (not 1 post!) until now, and you jump on the bandwagon. For Gods sakes Scarecrow, follwo the yellow brick road and get a brain! Seriously, learn to think for yourself or you will always be a followerer! NA & JC may not always be around for you to Mimic & Parrott.
Lest we forget this is the HT Forum..........You heard the milk commercial that says "You Got It?" Well, if you don't have HT......SHHHHHhhhhhh! Hang around and LISTEN, that is a good way to learn!
Robert
The 55" Sony I have now is 1080i/780p. I just have quality issues with it, and I'd like to get a larger viewing area.
So, you have a bandwagon of people here telling you that you are a pompus j.rk? How about the rest of the people in your life? No one else has said this to you?
I do have HT. Can't you read my list of equipment? It may not be $40,000 but it sure does 7.1 very well.
SSSSHHHHHHH........ now who's mimicing who. I've seen you use this line several times sinse I said it to you a couple of weeks ago. Get your own mind will ya. Yep, I quoted you. Get over it.
Seems to me I did post a few more than once here. Trouble counting too?
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Oh, and you do have a very nice HT room. Good work there.
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Originally Posted by GMichael
Oh, and you do have a very nice HT room. Good work there.
Thanks GM, I REALLY would like to get along here.
Robert
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Originally Posted by robert393
Thanks GM, I REALLY would like to get along here.
Robert
Works for me.
The fire place is a nice touch. I still haven't decided on which room I want mine in. Do you have any sound issues with yours?
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OK, you made one excellent point in all of this -Dvhs. It's not something I give a lot of thought to, for a number of reasons. To call it a languishing format would be an understatement. To spend 30 to 40 bucks on a title in a format that nobody thinks is going to survive didn't make any sense to me, clearly you thought otherwise. Maybe that will turn out to be a good investment for you. So, hat's off to you. It took a while but you actually made a good point and clearly win that one.
jc
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Originally Posted by Jim Clark
OK, you made one excellent point in all of this -Dvhs. It's not something I give a lot of thought to, for a number of reasons. To call it a languishing format would be an understatement. To spend 30 to 40 bucks on a title in a format that nobody thinks is going to survive didn't make any sense to me, clearly you thought otherwise. Maybe that will turn out to be a good investment for you. So, hat's off to you. It took a while but you actually made a good point and clearly win that one.
jc
I agree with the "languishing" technology part. The D-VHS came as a free gift with the purchase of the JVC SX21U LCoS projector, or believe me, I would never have paid $1000.00 for the technology. It also came with 4 free tapes (of my choice). I see High Definition DVD (or HD-VOD?) eiking out the D-VHS market. Like laserdisk, I think technology will simply leapfrog D-VHS. But, since I have the hardware, I have no problem paying $30 for 1080i titles. The PQ is so good it is scary!
If we are "tipping-hats" here, I owe you one for bringing to my attention the flaw in my calculations regarding this study. I misunderstood the findings, and it has become clear that you "win" that one!
This whole thing between NA & I got started way back, and for my part I'm done with it. He is convinced 480p is superior to 1080i, and I'm through trying to convince him other wise. His statements are here
Post # 10- "higher resolution projector...They just didn't look any better."
# 12- "everything I've read says that 480p is better than anything i...or interlaced."
#14- "Well I think the big thing is that even though 1080i has more scan lines, it still suffers from interlacing which is why 480p is preferred over 1080i."
#17- "I preferred 480p because 1080i still suffers from interlacing."
#48- "We want to see this 'major difference' between 480p and 1080i you keep talking about."
#65- "1080i was ZERO improvement in my (and most everyone else's) eyes."
I could continue, but I think you get the picture........
I guess I'm just a "hard-core" enthusiast, (and I'm in the industry) and I just got really frustrated. I let it get personal, when maybe I should just diregard. The MAIN reason I didn't just diregard is I feel an obligation to this forum and it's members to stop the misinformation. I still feel it was the right thing to do, but surely I cound have gone about it in a different (less abrasive?) manner.
To add insult to injury, I felt slighted after I made SEVERAL compliments regarding NA's setup, only to get "smashed" by him regarding mine. He has never said ONE good thing about my setup, except to tell me how "shotty" my gear is, and it seemed you were taking the same attitude. Again, I let it get personal.
I am a long-time member here, and have seen hundreds of members come and go. This site has weathered many "storms". I'm not going anywhere. I do however wish to "bury the hatchet" and move forward here and share in the exchange of knowledge available here!
Robert
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Originally Posted by robert393
I agree with the "languishing" technology part. The D-VHS came as a free gift with the purchase of the JVC SX21U LCoS projector, or believe me, I would never have paid $1000.00 for the technology. It also came with 4 free tapes (of my choice). I see High Definition DVD (or HD-VOD?) eiking out the D-VHS market. Like laserdisk, I think technology will simply leapfrog D-VHS. But, since I have the hardware, I have no problem paying $30 for 1080i titles. The PQ is so good it is scary!
If we are "tipping-hats" here, I owe you one for bringing to my attention the flaw in my calculations regarding this study. I misunderstood the findings, and it has become clear that you "win" that one!
This whole thing between NA & I got started way back, and for my part I'm done with it. He is convinced 480p is superior to 1080i, and I'm through trying to convince him other wise. His statements are here
Post # 10- " higher resolution projector...They just didn't look any better."
# 12- "everything I've read says that 480p is better than anything i...or interlaced."
#14- "Well I think the big thing is that even though 1080i has more scan lines, it still suffers from interlacing which is why 480p is preferred over 1080i."
#17- "I preferred 480p because 1080i still suffers from interlacing."
#48- "We want to see this 'major difference' between 480p and 1080i you keep talking about."
#65- " 1080i was ZERO improvement in my (and most everyone else's) eyes."
I could continue, but I think you get the picture........
I guess I'm just a "hard-core" enthusiast, (and I'm in the industry) and I just got really frustrated. I let it get personal, when maybe I should just diregard. The MAIN reason I didn't just diregard is I feel an obligation to this forum and it's members to stop the misinformation. I still feel it was the right thing to do, but surely I cound have gone about it in a different (less abrasive?) manner.
To add insult to injury, I felt slighted after I made SEVERAL compliments regarding NA's setup, only to get "smashed" by him regarding mine. He has never said ONE good thing about my setup, except to tell me how "shotty" my gear is, and it seemed you were taking the same attitude. Again, I let it get personal.
I am a long-time member here, and have seen hundreds of members come and go. This site has weathered many "storms". I'm not going anywhere. I do however wish to "bury the hatchet" and move forward here and share in the exchange of knowledge available here!
Robert
I think that what Nab was trying to say was that for "his use" 480 was best because he is only planning to use it for DVD's. He left out the "for his use" part but I knew what he was saying.
Let's all chalk it up as a misunderstanding and try to move on from here.
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Works for me.
The fire place is a nice touch. I still haven't decided on which room I want mine in. Do you have any sound issues with yours?
When I first viewed the room I thought "Perfect! Except for the damn Fireplace!", but to my amazement, it has turned into a REALLY NICE deal! Who would have thought it?
Sound Issues. 95% of my listening is HT. I thought "OMG, I'm going to have to treat the wood-panel walls". But, thankfully I waited to see how the room actually sounded before changing it.
For HT, their are no issues with the fireplace or panel walls. It actually sounds incredible. But, I think it is MUCH EASIER to get 5.1 or 6.1 to sound good with 1) proper equipment, 2) speaker placement.
Critical music listening is an entirely different story. Very mixed reviews on my part with this room.
1) 2-channel - Good to very good. Biggest limitation is the speakers themselves. They are Bi-Polar HT speakers. They ARE NOT pure music speakers. Bypassing Stereo and utilizing Pure Direct provides the best 2-channel results. But room reflections are minimal. Over-all I'm content.
2) 6-channel DVDA - Very good to excellent. Biggest factor is where you are seated. The large sectional in the center of the room is best seating. Full surround! Room reflections are more pronounced than 2-channel, and are certainly present, but not to the point of being distracted by them.
3) 7-channel stereo - The worst of the 3! But the "upside" is it works well for non-critical listening, and works great when we have parties! Afterall, who would actually listen to 7-channel stereo for "critical" listening? So, I guess it serves it's function.
Anyway, I hope that answered your questions. Now, I wish you would start a NEW THREAD regarding your gear & some of the room posibilities you are considering for your HT placement so we could get off this thread....it has gone in so many different directions, maybe it is time to give it a proper funeral?
I'm very interested in hearing what your room posibilities are ie, lighting, viewing distances, approximation to other parts of the house, viewing distances etc....
I agree with your earlier statement regarding having a larger monitor than the 50", but just how big can we get and still have proper viewing distances?
Robert
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Originally Posted by GMichael
I think that what Nab was trying to say was that for "his use" 480 was best because he is only planning to use it for DVD's. He left out the "for his use" part but I knew what he was saying.
Let's all chalk it up as a misunderstanding and try to move on from here.
Please read his quotes....that is NOT WHAT he said. He was clear in this thread. Here are some excerpts:
Post # 10- "higher resolution projector...They just didn't look any better."
# 12- "everything I've read says that 480p is better than anything i...or interlaced."
#14- "Well I think the big thing is that even though 1080i has more scan lines, it still suffers from interlacing which is why 480p is preferred over 1080i."
#17- "I preferred 480p because 1080i still suffers from interlacing."
#48- "We want to see this 'major difference' between 480p and 1080i you keep talking about."
#65- "1080i was ZERO improvement in my (and most everyone else's) eyes."
I could continue, but I think you get the picture.......
Good point though GM, I'm ready to drop it and move forward too........
Robert
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Gollum/Robert...news flash....nobody cares any more. Give it a rest.
Your obsession has become unhealthy.
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Originally Posted by robert393
Yeah, you don't want to get confused with the facts when your mind is already made-up....lol! As for me, I would much rather deal in the realms of reality & facts.....with supporting documentation. Sorry that the ACTUAL numbers and facts are of no interest to you. As for who's right or wrong....the numbers don't lie. They are not bias. The numbers are just that what they are.....they don't take sides.
Obviously, you mistake a MEMBER THAT GIVES FACTS, AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION as being "smug". Too bad.
GMichael, you started this thread, and I tried to provide quality input.
Robert
No, actually it's your use of language, condescending attitude, and the continual, irritating use of all caps and exclamation points among other things that make you present yourself like a know-it-all 16 year old hopped up on Mountain Dew.
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With all this said, let me just say Amen and goodnight
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