• 02-28-2004, 02:40 PM
    bhd812
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Woochifer
    lack of due diligence for an investment of that magnitude is certainly not something I would brag about (as quite a few friends of mine who've bought Bose in the past have done).


    this I agree with, the reason why people buy bose is cause the havent heard of jamo, energy, definitive, witchcraft, blah blah blah.
    these people dont do research on audio bor do they know about audioreview.com. also most of these people are two lazy or to cheap to buy a home audio magazine to see the other company ads.

    when I bought my bose system I was 14 and we didnt have the internet nor did I know what I know today. but thats ok cause I learned and reseached.

    I also think that harmonkardon, denon, and marantez plays the bose role a little. not as much but in thier lower price models you dont get to much as say other companies. they sound great and so does bose but again not compared to others in their price range.

    this is why I laugh at anyone who buys one of these receivers on the lower price range. they spending way to much to get what they got.
    I bought a few years back, a denon 2803 or 3803 or something like that, it cost around 1100i$h. then I tried the onkyo 787 that had more....loads more and blew the denon out of the water. the onkyo cost $800.
    but everyone says onkyo sucks blah blah blah. well okyo had a service center a few blocks down from me, so anyway i think you get my point.

    and I was comparing a pepsi with a generic name...not coke.
  • 02-28-2004, 04:14 PM
    topspeed
    Is it me or does Aldo remind anyone else of TLADINY/Lexmark/Charles Howell III (or whatever it was)?
  • 02-28-2004, 05:23 PM
    Aldo WIngate
    It's probably you. What are these names to which you compare 'ole Aldo?

    As usual, some knucklehead makes a post that has ZERO relevence to the topic at hand. Then again, Topspeed's jonny is in his hand!
  • 02-28-2004, 05:59 PM
    Woochifer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bhd812
    this I agree with, the reason why people buy bose is cause the havent heard of jamo, energy, definitive, witchcraft, blah blah blah.
    these people dont do research on audio bor do they know about audioreview.com. also most of these people are two lazy or to cheap to buy a home audio magazine to see the other company ads.

    when I bought my bose system I was 14 and we didnt have the internet nor did I know what I know today. but thats ok cause I learned and reseached.

    I also think that harmonkardon, denon, and marantez plays the bose role a little. not as much but in thier lower price models you dont get to much as say other companies. they sound great and so does bose but again not compared to others in their price range.

    this is why I laugh at anyone who buys one of these receivers on the lower price range. they spending way to much to get what they got.
    I bought a few years back, a denon 2803 or 3803 or something like that, it cost around 1100i$h. then I tried the onkyo 787 that had more....loads more and blew the denon out of the water. the onkyo cost $800.
    but everyone says onkyo sucks blah blah blah. well okyo had a service center a few blocks down from me, so anyway i think you get my point.

    and I was comparing a pepsi with a generic name...not coke.

    Well, in general when you're comparing receivers, there are a LOT of variables that you need to account for before you can definitively state that one receiver blew another one "out of the water." Are you talking about sound quality, build quality, features, connectivity, reliability? Were these comparisons done using identical speakers, in the same room, and using identical default settings? Just making an observation with different speakers, in different rooms, and listenings done at different times have minimal comparative value. The differences between receivers in more controlled conditions that I've observed are more subtle than obvious.

    Are you saying that entry level receivers from those companies aren't worth purchasing, while their midlevel units are? Comparing them to Bose is a bit off target, considering that I usually regard Bose's systems overpriced threefold. A $300 entry level receiver from h/k, Marantz, or Denon is hardly a ripoff in that context.

    I don't know who on this board says that Onkyo sucks, they're usually mentioned as one of the recommended brands. BTW, you say that you once OWNED a Denon 2803 or 3803, and swapped that out for the Onkyo 787? To say that Onkyo model "blew away" the Denon would be rather difficult since the model in question is more than three years old, and the Denons are relatively new. Care to clarify?
  • 02-28-2004, 06:33 PM
    markw
    Some people simply find what Bose offers is exactly what they are looking for.
    Styling, convenience, and it fits unobtrousively in their living environment. As much as I hate to admit it, their top of the line system has a really kewl remote control. But AFAICT, it still ain't worth $3,500.

    But, some people have money to burn and simply fall head over heels over the styling and wow factor. The fact it also produces music is a side effect. I like to call this stuff expensive "Audio Jewelery".

    After all, Rolex doesn't keep better time than a Timex but people still love 'em.