• 06-20-2006, 07:30 AM
    jwcullen
    Has anyone heard of this speaker brand?
    Just wondering if anyone has heard of Delphonica?
    If so what are they like??

    Heres the specs for the speakers:

    Delphonica E806R
    Impedance 4 ohm
    Sensitivity 91dB
    Power 220W
    Frequency 38hz - 22KHz
    Dimensions (HxWxD) 1004 x 240 x 340(mm)
    Drive Units 1" tweeter, 1x6 1/2" midrange 2x6 1/2" woofer
    http://216.70.83.118/ebay/hifi/echo_806_che_2.jpg
    http://216.70.83.118/ebay/hifi/echo_806_che_4.jpg

    Thanks!
  • 06-20-2006, 08:33 AM
    Resident Loser
    Like many recent...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jwcullen
    Just wondering if anyone has heard of Delphonica?
    If so what are they like??...technical yada, yada, yada...

    Thanks!

    ...new member posts re: unknown, off-market brands...this has the distinct aroma of spam to it...Geez, such great close-ups and not even a clue as to their quality?...even if that isn't the case, the above mentioned speakers are probably some third-world cr@p designed and built to bilk the unsuspecting noob out of his or her hard-earned bux...White van/ebay fodder...

    jimHJJ(...but then, that's just me...)
  • 06-20-2006, 08:50 AM
    jwcullen
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Resident Loser
    ...new member posts re: unknown, off-market brands...this has the distinct aroma of spam to it...Geez, such great close-ups and not even a clue as to their quality?...even if that isn't the case, the above mentioned speakers are probably some third-world cr@p designed and built to bilk the unsuspecting noob out of his or her hard-earned bux...White van/ebay fodder...

    jimHJJ(...but then, that's just me...)

    Wow thanks for you help!
    Do you feel better that you got that off your chest?
  • 06-20-2006, 08:52 AM
    edtyct
    It may be an Australian company. Their speakers certainly do not look cheap. For example, check out Item number: 9744609938 on ebay.
  • 06-20-2006, 09:10 AM
    topspeed
    Wow. I wonder if B&W can do anything about these blatant rip-offs? Certainly this must be some form of trademark infringement?

    White van crap. Stay away. (although the current e-bay bid is $0.99...which is about right :) )
  • 06-20-2006, 09:25 AM
    Resident Loser
    When I see...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jwcullen
    Wow thanks for you help!
    Do you feel better that you got that off your chest?

    ...obviously able-bodied, non-handicapped folks parking in clearly marked handicapped only spots after dutifully putting the required hang-tag on their rear-view mirror, I will, on many instances, ask them what their handicap is that allows them to qualify for this preferential treatment...

    While you'd think the truly disabled would be glad to see someone taking an interest in the proper use of those spots, the answer is never "Oh I have such and such and can't walk too far"...The reality is that guilt is it's own accuser, so it's usually an arrogant "Mind your own business, what's it to you?" The latter reponse screams volumes...

    As does yours...touchy, touchy...

    As previously posted:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RL
    ...White van/ebay fodder...

    jimHJJ(...of course you could visit their facade of a website...ain't difficult to find...)
  • 06-20-2006, 10:06 AM
    paul_pci
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by topspeed
    Wow. I wonder if B&W can do anything about these blatant rip-offs? Certainly this must be some form of trademark infringement?

    White van crap. Stay away. (although the current e-bay bid is $0.99...which is about right :) )

    Exactly my thought.
  • 06-20-2006, 10:14 AM
    edtyct
    Isn't the label underneath the binding posts, which reads "Professional Audio Equipment," enough for you guys? O, ye of little faith.
  • 06-21-2006, 06:03 AM
    Resident Loser
    I read the news today...
    ...ho-boy-y-y-...Your PM was so well received, I thought I'd share it with everyone:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jwcullen

    Problems as a child?

    I came on here asking advice on a set of speakers, If they are ****...ok fair enough..but dont start attacking me.
    1,229 posts and I wonder how many of them are as useless as the last two.

    Resident Loser...spot on pal

    You think that was an attack?!?!?!?

    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...yada-yada-yada...

    Your post follows a pattern...A noob who has nothing to offer on their first post other than to provide some rather detailed pics re: some off-brand items...funny thing, they're only available on ebay or some other on-line version of the white van modus operandi, the supposed manufacturers website is useless and the post's .jpeg/spec sheet inclusion looks like a blatant cut-and-paste...

    Within the last few months. some guy (barbershopdude) was touting unheard-of cables and another (Juan Francisco) HT speakers...there were other similar, perhaps more blatant, helpings of spam, but they were deleted by the mods...Word-of-mouth advertising...just cast that fly and hope someone will bite.

    So if you aren't pimping the ebay sale, my apologies (don't wanna' upset the mods)...if you are: bite me!

    BTW, the remark re: my moniker...oh, golly duh!...never heard that one...

    jimHJJ(...not...)
  • 06-21-2006, 07:01 AM
    jneutron
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by edtyct
    It may be an Australian company. Their speakers certainly do not look cheap. For example, check out Item number: 9744609938 on ebay.

    Why would an Australian company put "made in china" on the bottom of the sticker, and designed in the UK by...?

    Sheesh, I guess everybody's outsourcing these days..course, I would have had somebody spellcheck "sentivity" and "imperdance"..

    Cheers, John
  • 06-21-2006, 07:21 AM
    Resident Loser
    Now thatcha'...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jneutron
    Why would an Australian company put "made in china" on the bottom of the sticker, and designed in the UK by...?

    Sheesh, I guess everybody's outsourcing these days..course, I would have had somebody spellcheck "sentivity" and "imperdance"..

    Cheers, John

    ...mention it (it's so much easier when you have the answers) MIC and DIUK is so friggin' obvious...my resolution stinks...allthough I didn't notice the mis-spellings...good one Science Boy...

    jimHJJ(...if this was AH I'd give you a green Chicklet...)
  • 06-21-2006, 07:27 AM
    edtyct
    I hastily noticed that all of Delfonica's products on ebay originated in Australia. I did a little bit more checking and found an indirect connection with a Chinese company in Hong Kong that makes tube amplifiers. I'm an editor, and I didn't catch the misspellings--but. then again, I didn't look below the first line.
  • 06-21-2006, 07:46 AM
    jneutron
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by edtyct
    I hastily noticed that all of Delfonica's products on ebay originated in Australia. I did a little bit more checking and found an indirect connection with a Chinese company in Hong Kong that makes tube amplifiers. I'm an editor, and I didn't catch the misspellings--but. then again, I didn't look below the first line.

    Hmmm...an editor didn't catch mis-spellings..:confused5:

    Well, your excused...the resolution of the pic was quite low.

    I expect more and more mainland China/Australia connections in the future. The current undergraduate capacity in China falls far below the need, and many chinese students are studying in Australia.

    It has a tragic side, however...in China, traffic signals are typically ignored by bicyclists and pedestrians, especially in Beijing, and many assume the traffic will yield. An incorrect assumption, especially on roads at 80 to 100 kph.

    Cheers, John
  • 06-21-2006, 08:08 AM
    edtyct
    I never said that I was a good editor, but I try to look both ways before I cross the street.
  • 06-21-2006, 08:58 AM
    jwcullen
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Resident Loser
    ...ho-boy-y-y-...Your PM was so well received, I thought I'd share it with everyone:



    You think that was an attack?!?!?!?

    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...yada-yada-yada...

    Your post follows a pattern...A noob who has nothing to offer on their first post other than to provide some rather detailed pics re: some off-brand items...funny thing, they're only available on ebay or some other on-line version of the white van modus operandi, the supposed manufacturers website is useless and the post's .jpeg/spec sheet inclusion looks like a blatant cut-and-paste...

    Within the last few months. some guy (barbershopdude) was touting unheard-of cables and another (Juan Francisco) HT speakers...there were other similar, perhaps more blatant, helpings of spam, but they were deleted by the mods...Word-of-mouth advertising...just cast that fly and hope someone will bite.

    So if you aren't pimping the ebay sale, my apologies (don't wanna' upset the mods)...if you are: bite me!

    BTW, the remark re: my moniker...oh, golly duh!...never heard that one...

    jimHJJ(...not...)


    I didnt even take the photos, and I am certainly not trying to advertise these speakers.
    I was simply asking if anyone had heard of them.

    A simple "No they are junk" or "Yes they are quite good" would have been great.rather than accusing me of being a "noob spammer"

    Obviously you take offense to people that post in "your forum"
  • 06-21-2006, 09:01 AM
    topspeed
    Posting a pm on the board, Jim? :nono:

    FWIW, I didn't think the OP was blatant spam, but then again the rash of crap that has been hitting the board lately is usually deleted before I get a chance to see it. The mod's are pretty quick on the draw. At face value, the guy's a noob and simply didn't know what a White Van speaker is.
  • 06-21-2006, 09:33 AM
    bonsaiguitar
    Don't worry about it jwcullen. Welcome to the forum. I received the same over reaction with the first coule of posts I placed here.

    Unfortunatly some people have little time other than to sit on forums in their own waste waiting for a chance to pounce on someone. It's actually a pretty good forum minus a couple of posters that obviosly over react based without facts and just have nothing better to do. Now this is where I would Moderate swiftly.

    There are so many companies making speakers that its hard to tell. Being made in China is no clue to the quality of the speaker. Anybody thinking so simply doesn't know any better. Several high end companies have items assymbled in China and other countries that were engineered and designed in the USA. It's a cost issue, not quality. Now granted some Chinese made items are garbage, just as some USA made items are so you would need a little more to go on, like listening to them or reading reaviews or both.
  • 06-21-2006, 09:47 AM
    Resident Loser
    And obviously...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jwcullen
    I didnt even take the photos, and I am certainly not trying to advertise these speakers.
    I was simply asking if anyone had heard of them.

    A simple "No they are junk" or "Yes they are quite good" would have been great.rather than accusing me of being a "noob spammer"

    Obviously you take offense to people that post in "your forum"

    ...you have comprehension problems, to wit:

    From Post #2

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RL
    ...even if that (being a noob spammer) isn't the case, the above mentioned speakers are probably some third-world cr@p designed and built to bilk the unsuspecting noob out of his or her hard-earned bux...White van/ebay fodder...

    From Post #6

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RL
    ..White van/ebay fodder...of course you could visit their facade of a website...ain't difficult to find...

    From Post #9

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RL
    ...So if you aren't pimping the ebay sale, my apologies (don't wanna' upset the mods)...if you are: bite me!

    What I take offense to is folks who do that sort of thing, and pardon my opinion, but your virgin post has all the earmarks of such behavior...

    jimHJJ(...like I said, you're either really handicapped or just tryin' to get over...and by your answers they shall know you...)
  • 06-21-2006, 09:49 AM
    edtyct
    That's a good point to make--that is, about equipment assembled in China. People might well be surprised to learn how many reputable companies save money that way. The point to take out of this thread is that A/V scams can be insidious and highly tempting to people who don't spend a lot of time in this field and are looking for a bargain. We deconstructed Delfonica fairly well; the burden of proof now lies with the "company" itself. JW Cullen should not come away with the idea that he is not welcome here, much less that he should be presumed guilty of shilling without any good evidence.
  • 06-21-2006, 10:09 AM
    Resident Loser
    Sorry TS...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by topspeed
    Posting a pm on the board, Jim? :nono:

    FWIW, I didn't think the OP was blatant spam, but then again the rash of crap that has been hitting the board lately is usually deleted before I get a chance to see it. The mod's are pretty quick on the draw. At face value, the guy's a noob and simply didn't know what a White Van speaker is.

    ...FWIW and based on recent history, that's the way it struck me...

    Out of curiosity since when have PMs fallen under the guidelines of the Seal of Confession?...What sinister information did I reveal? Oh, perhaps that someone has a thin skin and resorts to insult when the rain starts to fall...

    PMs stay PMs when they are from known entities...

    jimHJJ(...and that's something this guy isn't...)
  • 06-21-2006, 10:22 AM
    Resident Loser
    Translate please...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bonsaiguitar
    ...Unfortunatly some people have little time other than to sit on forums in their own waste waiting for a chance to pounce on someone. It's actually a pretty good forum minus a couple of posters that obviosly over react based without facts and just have nothing better to do. Now this is where I would Moderate swiftly.

    ...that first line is a corker!

    Moderate swiftly? As I recall it was a moderator who deleted your early work due to your shill-like turn of phrase...there are other regulars who respond in kind to tout-like behavior...markw...FLZapped...to name two...and JohnMichael is mod in charge of spam-ectomies...

    Are you trying to imply our moderators sit "...in their own waste..."?

    jimHJJ(...hmmmm...)
  • 06-21-2006, 10:40 AM
    bonsaiguitar
    Good Point RL. I was refering to those attacking the new poster. What you are missing is one simple point, it's the moderators jobs to jump in when they suspect problems on the forum. Not yours or anybody elses. I only wish they would have made sure about mine first, but it's water under the bridge. They didn't ban me, they only removed the post temporarily until I proved myself. Even sent me a PM, of course I didn't get it until after the fact, but they did their jobs, though maybe a bit hasty.

    It's not about thick or thin skin, it's about being civilized and treating eachother with respect.

    It's also very tacky and rude to post someones PM on the forum, regardless of what they may or may not have said. In this case I would think that you deserve whatever you get.

    Damnit Jim! It's a forum, not a life. ............Dr. Bones of the starship Audio.
  • 06-21-2006, 11:06 AM
    Resident Loser
    There used to be...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bonsaiguitar
    What you are missing is one simple point, it's the moderators jobs to jump in when they suspect problems on the forum. Not yours or anybody elses...but they did their jobs, though maybe a bit hasty

    ...a "report this post" option...why might that have been? Do you think the mods have a million eyes? Or can react as quickly as the members? So, yeah it's mine AND everyone elses...it's up to us to put flags on suspect items...

    There was a guy some time ago trying to start a cable company...answered every cable inquiry with a sort of "try mine" type of response and included his web address in every post...he was told to stop by some of the rank-and-file, myself included, and take up some paid ad space, after a number of such threads the mods (not the current group) took notice and took action.

    So you want them to do their job of protecting the site, but make certain inquires first so as not to upset anyone...as I've been trying to say all along, the shills usually follow patterns...

    jimHJJ(...and most of the time they are that duck I mentioned...)
  • 06-21-2006, 12:42 PM
    bonsaiguitar
    LMAO Yeah.......OK.

    Couldn't help myself just thinking back to what you said about the moderators. I guess they must not be doing their jobs after all. You're still here.
  • 06-21-2006, 02:14 PM
    JohnMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bonsaiguitar
    LMAO Yeah.......OK.

    Couldn't help myself just thinking back to what you said about the moderators. I guess they must not be doing their jobs after all. You're still here.


    The difference in some posts involve when links are included. The person starting this thread asked an opinion of a speaker without a link for others to follow and purchase the speakers. When someone includes a link with their first post to take them to a store and not to the product they are asking about it looks suspicious. Everyone is entitled to their opinion as long as they are not offensive or conducting business for their own profit without buying advertising. Oh and by the way my chair is quite clean and waste free.