Results 1 to 11 of 11
  1. #1
    Sgt. At Arms Worf101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Troy, New York
    Posts
    4,288

    CNet Rates Top 5 HDTV's

    Samsung takes three of the top slots Panny and Pioneer the other two. Interesting.

    http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6475_7-...ml?tag=nl.e404

    How long before this devolves into an anti-Vizio flame fest? Please god no!!!!!

    Da Worsfter

  2. #2
    Forum Regular
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Margate, Florida
    Posts
    614
    Hi Worfster; I am not able to get out to the stores to see the sets out on tne market play and make quick "value judgements". I have a friend who is a disableds vet who lives down the road from me who bought a 720P Samsung plasma 50 inch set last Xmas. He doesn't even have a high-def connection to it and it plays fantastic. My brother bought be a 37 inch Toshiba Regza LCD,720P. I have it on Direct TV and an old 480I Pioneer dvd player. There is absolutely nothing that I can fault this televsion for. Oh, it would be nice if I cou ld have all the sets that I am looking at right now in a CNET shootout against what CNET has on hand but that is impossible. Is a $5000 Kuro worth that much over a$800 Samsung. I wonder. As for the case for Vizio, they have been getting some good reviews and showing strong spots in certain areas of reproducing video pictures. If and when I get out to the stores, I will take a good look at them. But it is like my brother's friend said when he went out to look at sets last year; I looked at them all playing and fuddled around with them and this Samsung 720P unit outplayed them all and that is what he bought. Once upon a time to me, Samsung was a jokebook in electronics, but they got their act together and that I have to respect them for.

  3. #3
    Forum Regular pixelthis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    tuscaloosa
    Posts
    5,528

    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by Worf101
    Samsung takes three of the top slots Panny and Pioneer the other two. Interesting.

    http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6475_7-...ml?tag=nl.e404

    How long before this devolves into an anti-Vizio flame fest? Please god no!!!!!

    Da Worsfter
    WELL, YOU ASKED FOR IT.....
    Actually the Samsung accolades are probably well earned, I have seen some of Samsungs new models , owned some earlier models, and these new sets are quite good.
    Vizio fills a niche, 95% of a superb picture for those of us who can't afford the other four
    (you never get that last %).
    My moms lovin my Vizio (whats not to love) and if I can sell her on it maybe there is a
    Samsung in my future(or maybe not).
    But Vizio remains an exelent choice , I sure enjoy mine.
    LG 42", integra 6.9, B&W 602s2, CC6 center, dm305rears, b&w
    sub asw2500
    Panny DVDA player
    sharp Aquos BLU player
    pronto remote, technics antique direct drive TT
    Samsung SACD/DVDA player
    emotiva upa-2 two channel amp

  4. #4
    Sgt. At Arms Worf101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Troy, New York
    Posts
    4,288

    Hey Kel

    I understand your position. I'd never buy a set I hadn't seen before. Problem is when you're looking at a set in the store there's lot's of variables that can effect what you're seeing.

    1. Room lighting.
    2. Signal feed (Hi Def, Upconverted or BluRay)
    3. Monitor set-up.

    And a host of other variables. We normally say "trust your eyes" but you'll never truly know how a set looks until it's sittin' in your living room and by then it might be too late. Hey, you'll never hear me disparage any compromises that people have to make when it comes to the price of home entertainment. We'd all LIKE to have 12 foot screens in dedicated HT rooms but a 42-incher in the living room is better than a portable with tinfoil ears. Enjoy.

    Da Worfster

  5. #5
    Forum Regular pixelthis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    tuscaloosa
    Posts
    5,528

    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by Worf101
    I understand your position. I'd never buy a set I hadn't seen before. Problem is when you're looking at a set in the store there's lot's of variables that can effect what you're seeing.

    1. Room lighting.
    2. Signal feed (Hi Def, Upconverted or BluRay)
    3. Monitor set-up.

    And a host of other variables. We normally say "trust your eyes" but you'll never truly know how a set looks until it's sittin' in your living room and by then it might be too late. Hey, you'll never hear me disparage any compromises that people have to make when it comes to the price of home entertainment. We'd all LIKE to have 12 foot screens in dedicated HT rooms but a 42-incher in the living room is better than a portable with tinfoil ears. Enjoy.

    Da Worfster
    iF YOU know what to look for you can make a fair judgement in a store.
    First thing, adjust the set, and try to buy one (or look at one) in subdued lighting.
    Best thing is to find someone who has one, and I am lucky in that respect, a
    friend has a 46" Samsung, hooked to Direct TV, and it is a stunner.
    LG 42", integra 6.9, B&W 602s2, CC6 center, dm305rears, b&w
    sub asw2500
    Panny DVDA player
    sharp Aquos BLU player
    pronto remote, technics antique direct drive TT
    Samsung SACD/DVDA player
    emotiva upa-2 two channel amp

  6. #6
    Forum Regular
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Margate, Florida
    Posts
    614
    My friend wanted something on the "cheap" and bought at Costco a 40 inch Proscan set. My brother and I traveled 50 miles to visit him and help set up his Pansonic dvd upconverting receiver to this set and to see how this unit played. My brother went under the iota that it was going to be a real turkey of a television. When we arrived, my friend had already had it set up to a comcast high-def receiver with the component video cables. Surprisingly, the set played very nicely on the high-def stations. We then hooked up the dvd receiver. At first we upconverted to 480P and played STAR WARS 3. It looked great. Finally we upconverted to 1080P which was the resolution of this set. The dvd just looked stunning on this 40 inch unit. This television came with alot of features for the money like headphone jack etc, something I could have used on my Regza unit. So if this unit lasts, my friend will certainly get his monies worth. I personally could have lived with this television myself.

  7. #7
    all around good guy Jim Clark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    In a dead sea of fluid mercury
    Posts
    1,900
    Interesting that there are no Sony's making the grade. Actually makes me pretty happy, it must be a Karma thing! I hope that them burning me and millions of others who bought their 3 panel rear projection lcds is finally catching up with them. I can't imagine the circumstances that would lead me to purchase another Sony product regardless of the rating though!

    Go Samsung and everyone else who makes TVs!

    BTW, I like the 37'' Vizio just hung on my bedroom wall just fine. Amazing pic for the cash and since I just watch it when I shave and fold laundry I'm content with it not being a top 5 TV.

    jc
    "Ahh, cartoons! America's only native art form. I don't count jazz 'cuz it sucks"- Bartholomew J. Simpson

  8. #8
    M.P.S.E /AES/SMPTE member Sir Terrence the Terrible's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Posts
    6,826
    Most A/V mags don't agree with this assessment. Widescreen Review did testing on the Samsung LED televisions, and found severe haloing around light objects are a predominately dark screen. It was so severe that they turned down the backlighting all the way, and it was still mildly visible.

    In Hometheater Mags testing, Panasonic and Sony's televisions finished neck and neck.
    In Hometheaters Choice, the same result.
    In Sound and Vision, the same result.

    I don't know CNET testing methodology, but they have never been all that thorough with using instruments to actually test televisions. They have always been a "by the eye" kind of testing outfit. I absolutely agree with their choice of projectors, as I am going to purchase the Samsung SP-A900B for my new dedicated hometheater. When I saw that Image Entertainment used one for their quality control room, I just had to have one. Their choice of this projector was an easy one. Measurements show this projector conforms to THX standards and SMPTE standards almost out of the box.
    Sir Terrence

    Titan Reference 3D 1080p projector
    200" SI Black Diamond II screen
    Oppo BDP-103D
    Datastat RS20I audio/video processor 12.4 audio setup
    9 Onkyo M-5099 power amp
    9 Onkyo M-510 power amp
    9 Onkyo M-508 power amp
    6 custom CAL amps for subs
    3 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid monitors
    18 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid surround/ceiling speakers
    2 custom 15" sealed FFEC servo subs
    4 custom 15" H-PAS FFEC servo subs
    THX Style Baffle wall

  9. #9
    Forum Regular pixelthis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    tuscaloosa
    Posts
    5,528

    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by kelsci
    My friend wanted something on the "cheap" and bought at Costco a 40 inch Proscan set. My brother and I traveled 50 miles to visit him and help set up his Pansonic dvd upconverting receiver to this set and to see how this unit played. My brother went under the iota that it was going to be a real turkey of a television. When we arrived, my friend had already had it set up to a comcast high-def receiver with the component video cables. Surprisingly, the set played very nicely on the high-def stations. We then hooked up the dvd receiver. At first we upconverted to 480P and played STAR WARS 3. It looked great. Finally we upconverted to 1080P which was the resolution of this set. The dvd just looked stunning on this 40 inch unit. This television came with alot of features for the money like headphone jack etc, something I could have used on my Regza unit. So if this unit lasts, my friend will certainly get his monies worth. I personally could have lived with this television myself.
    I saw a Proscan at Sears, it looked quite nice.
    But Sears has this rediculous policy of having to send to a warehouse for any major
    thing, so they lost the sale.
    PROSCAN used to be a quality name, but with so many "quality" names being sold
    to fly by night outfits(some are decent) its hard to keep up without a program.
    Good luck on that one.
    LG 42", integra 6.9, B&W 602s2, CC6 center, dm305rears, b&w
    sub asw2500
    Panny DVDA player
    sharp Aquos BLU player
    pronto remote, technics antique direct drive TT
    Samsung SACD/DVDA player
    emotiva upa-2 two channel amp

  10. #10
    Forum Regular
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Posts
    414
    I don't know CNET testing methodology, but they have never been all that thorough with using instruments to actually test televisions. They have always been a "by the eye" kind of testing outfit. I absolutely agree with their choice of projectors, as I am going to purchase the Samsung SP-A900B for my new dedicated hometheater. When I saw that Image Entertainment used one for their quality control room, I just had to have one. Their choice of this projector was an easy one. Measurements show this projector conforms to THX standards and SMPTE standards almost out of the box.[/QUOTE]

    Just curious but what do you think of the JVCpro D-ILA reference series projectors?

  11. #11
    M.P.S.E /AES/SMPTE member Sir Terrence the Terrible's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Posts
    6,826
    Quote Originally Posted by AVMASTER
    I don't know CNET testing methodology, but they have never been all that thorough with using instruments to actually test televisions. They have always been a "by the eye" kind of testing outfit. I absolutely agree with their choice of projectors, as I am going to purchase the Samsung SP-A900B for my new dedicated hometheater. When I saw that Image Entertainment used one for their quality control room, I just had to have one. Their choice of this projector was an easy one. Measurements show this projector conforms to THX standards and SMPTE standards almost out of the box.
    Just curious but what do you think of the JVCpro D-ILA reference series projectors?
    I must admit, I do like JVC projectors a lot, and had my eye on the RS-20 until I saw the Samsung. What pushed me towards the Samsung was the fact that Joe Kane played a major role in its development, and approved and certified the final design. We he speaks, I listen.
    Sir Terrence

    Titan Reference 3D 1080p projector
    200" SI Black Diamond II screen
    Oppo BDP-103D
    Datastat RS20I audio/video processor 12.4 audio setup
    9 Onkyo M-5099 power amp
    9 Onkyo M-510 power amp
    9 Onkyo M-508 power amp
    6 custom CAL amps for subs
    3 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid monitors
    18 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid surround/ceiling speakers
    2 custom 15" sealed FFEC servo subs
    4 custom 15" H-PAS FFEC servo subs
    THX Style Baffle wall

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •