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    Blueray - PS3 or Dedicated BR Player?

    I'm fairly confident this has been asked and answered many many times but I am lazy and swamped at the moment so.....

    I need/want a BR player. I don't play games so PS3 is not mandaroty but I have heard the PS3 can be upgraded unlike the stand alone players. Is this a big issue?

    If you suggest the PS3, can it be controlled like a standard BR/DVD player? Is there a remote that I can just hit play and be done with it? I don't want the PS3 if I have to go through lots of menus to get to the BR functions. It's got to be easy enough for the wife to use.

    If it matters, I would run the BR player direct to the LCD via HDMI and run the sound via optical/digital coax to my receiver. The receiver does not have HDMI. That will be addressed a little later down the road.


    Anyway, thanks for any help you can give me.

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    Yes, the PS3 can be set to auto play. It'll begin to play the inserted disc automatically. You can pick up the BR remote for the PS3 which controls all the functions and is laid out pretty well. If you have a universal remote with learning capabilities, you can pickup the Bluwave remote, which let's you use a IR remote with the PS3. This controls 99% of the features, except the ability to turn it on. The PS3 will turn on when you put a disc in so no big deal.

    I'm extremely happy with my PS3 and highly recommend it as a BR player. Gaming, music/photo/video streaming, SACD, web browsing.....all comes as a bonus if you plan on only using the BR playback. Sony has been faithful on adding new features and improving overall performance. Adding improvements with BR playback(adding BR profile 2.0) and video filtering features for SD playback.

    I'm sure you know the only way to get HD audio with the PS3 is through an AVR that accepts MPCM via HDMI. Sounds like you plan on getting one soon so you should be OK. Setup is pretty simple and the PS3 will actually auto detect and optimize your settings for you. Just hook it up and that's about it.

    The 40g model goes for $399(there may be some combo deals out there) but doesn't offer all the features of the 80g. It doesn't sound like your concerned with gaming backward compatibility. You also loose SACD playback, media card slots & you only get 2 instead of 4 usb slots. These things may not be important to you though. The price for the 80g is currently $499 but will be dropping to $399 this Sept. Not sure of the features but it sounds like it's gonna be a "40g" model with a larger HD. Here's a chart comparing the 2 currently available models. The 60g is no longer available for sale.

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    That's top notch information you got there from Sir LJ3 Cartman. He is the PS3 w/Blu-ray overlord!

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.J.
    LOTS OF USEFUL INFO......
    Thanks LJ. That's what I needed to here. I'll probably just go for the 40gb model since gaming is not important to me. Nor is SACD. I'm aware I won't get HD Audio so I will upgrade my receiver at a later date. Got a lot of big expenses coming up in the next few months so the receiver will have to take a back seat. For now.

    Thanks again for all the info.


    Quote Originally Posted by Richy-Rich
    That's top notch information you got there from Sir LJ3 Cartman. He is the PS3 w/Blu-ray overlord!
    Did you get yours yet? Let me know how you like it. I figure if you can operate the PS3.....................well, I should do fine.

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    I have 2 PS3s, and NO games.....

    They make great players.... I'm sure I'll get a stand-alone in the future if they make one that does everything the PS3 does!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny p
    I have 2 PS3s, and NO games.....

    They make great players.... I'm sure I'll get a stand-alone in the future if they make one that does everything the PS3 does!
    Yup. I'm right there too...a PS3 and no games. The onboard processor on the Playstation is some serious chit, mang. I'm pretty sure I'd have to start looking at that 2k Denon unit to think about equalling the sound and picture quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSE
    Did you get yours yet? Let me know how you like it. I figure if you can operate the PS3.....................well, I should do fine.
    It arrived late this afternoon but I haven't integrated it yet (waiting on that $275 Monster HDMI cable and remote). I'll post up my problems questions comments in L.J.'s PS3 thread in OT/Non-Audio.

    BTW, I've been tracking the latest Shiner shipment and it seems to have gotten held up in Waxahachie. So sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    It arrived late this afternoon but I haven't integrated it yet (waiting on that $275 Monster HDMI cable and remote). I'll post up my problems questions comments in L.J.'s PS3 thread in OT/Non-Audio.

    BTW, I've been tracking the latest Shiner shipment and it seems to have gotten held up in Waxahachie. So sorry.

    Hey, I got "held up" in Waxahachie once before. Long story......................Let's just say I'm not allowed in the Taco Bueno there anymore, or Waxahachie for that matter....

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    LJ,

    Does the PS3 have an Optical and/or Digitial Coax port for audio? And, can I run the HDMI for video and Optical/DigCoax at the same time?

    If not, that might be a deal breaker for the PS3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSE
    Hey, I got "held up" in Waxahachie once before. Long story......................Let's just say I'm not allowed in the Taco Bueno there anymore, or Waxahachie for that matter....
    I can only imagine.

    The PS3 only has one digital audio output other than the HDMI and it's optical. Not sure about the second part of your question though... yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSE
    LJ,

    Does the PS3 have an Optical and/or Digitial Coax port for audio? And, can I run the HDMI for video and Optical/DigCoax at the same time?

    If not, that might be a deal breaker for the PS3.
    Not to step on LJ's toes, but it does and you can...so, no excuses.

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    Hey Rich and Sticks.......

    Thanks for the answers. Looks like I will pick up a PS3 in the next couple of weeks once my schedule calms down a bit.

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    Hopefully in the next couple of weeks the model like the one I picked up will be available again. The day after I ordered mine from Newegg, the site showed it as out of stock again. Here's the Sony part number FYI... PS398011.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16868110029

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
    Not to step on LJ's toes, but it does and you can...so, no excuses.
    It's all good Sticks. Just don't scuff my white on whites

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.J.
    It's all good Sticks. Just don't scuff my white on whites
    K-Swiss or Jordains? I go with the all white K's myself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
    K-Swiss or Jordains? I go with the all white K's myself...
    K-Swiss...Classics

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    Good man, the classics never go out of style.

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    Doh! One last question. Does the PS3 play regular DVDs? I have a player that up-converts now so it's not a big deal. Just wondering. One player would be nicer than two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSE
    Doh! One last question. Does the PS3 play regular DVDs? I have a player that up-converts now so it's not a big deal. Just wondering. One player would be nicer than two.
    Yup, does a pretty good job scaling too.

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    It arrived late this afternoon but I haven't integrated it yet (waiting on that $275 Monster HDMI cable and remote). I'll post up my problems questions comments in L.J.'s PS3 thread in OT/Non-Audio.

    BTW, I've been tracking the latest Shiner shipment and it seems to have gotten held up in Waxahachie. So sorry.
    The signal is digital, a 32 buck cable (phillips) from Walmart
    will do fine, or go to
    monoprice.com
    Theirs are 20 bucks on up.
    And some company (forgot the name but its on Harmonys website)
    has a PS3 REMOTE FOR 17 BUCKS, the remote sensor plugs into the USB port.
    I found this out when the circuit crappy pimplyfaced teens lied to my friend and told him that a Harmony would work with a PS3 , which it wouldnt of course because of its blu tooth nature.
    The picture was good but he decided that games wouldnt be important and took it back for a BDP-300, which I think performs better and has 5.1 channel out, but thats just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    The signal is digital, a 32 buck cable (phillips) from Walmart
    will do fine, or go to
    monoprice.com
    Theirs are 20 bucks on up.
    You know he was just joking right


    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    And some company (forgot the name but its on Harmonys website)
    has a PS3 REMOTE FOR 17 BUCKS, the remote sensor plugs into the USB port.
    I found this out when the circuit crappy pimplyfaced teens lied to my friend and told him that a Harmony would work with a PS3 , which it wouldnt of course because of its blu tooth nature.
    It's the Blu wave remote from NYKO. I use it and it works with my Harmony just fine.


    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    The picture was good but he decided that games wouldnt be important and took it back for a BDP-300, which I think performs better and has 5.1 channel out, but thats just me.
    To each his own brotha

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    Bought an $18 Belkin HDMI cable along with the $20 remote L.J. suggested. No tax and free shipping. I'll get the NYKO's codes into the 880 ASAP.

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    WELL, my friend didnt care for the Sony 300, and while I was setting
    his stuff up offered to let me have it until my vacation pay comes in,
    he wanted the samsung 1500.
    So I am now the proud owner of a bdp-s300 sony blu player.
    Spent two hours programming it into the pronto, and its really spectacular. My Vizio can handle the 1080p but it really looks bad,
    so I let it go to 720p.
    THE BEST SCENE I have seen so far is the hotel check in scene
    in casino royale, Bond and his friend is wearing black, the check in clerk is wearing black, and the richly detailed blacks look simply
    amazing.
    I was surprized by the Samsungs' "low ball" approach, no 5.1 out,
    etc, the Sony has a bit meter, elapsed time and other "extras".
    The load time others have talked about is a no problem, really,
    load times, even for the "java" discs is under a minute, mostly.
    And the upconversion is good too, hardware secrets
    reports that the upscaled pic is as good as a 1200$ scaler.
    One problem, tho, no center or sub on 5.1 out.
    GOTTA email Sony about it, and yes its set to 5.1, not stereo, first thing I checked.
    This is the latest player, all black front, etc.
    Only problem now is that HD broadcast stuff looks a bit "drab".
    I cant beleive the black level on this thing, not to mention the color saturation.
    I have bought my last DVD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    WELL, my friend didnt care for the Sony 300, and while I was setting
    his stuff up offered to let me have it until my vacation pay comes in,
    he wanted the samsung 1500.
    So I am now the proud owner of a bdp-s300 sony blu player.
    Spent two hours programming it into the pronto, and its really spectacular. My Vizio can handle the 1080p but it really looks bad,
    so I let it go to 720p.
    THE BEST SCENE I have seen so far is the hotel check in scene
    in casino royale, Bond and his friend is wearing black, the check in clerk is wearing black, and the richly detailed blacks look simply
    amazing.
    I was surprized by the Samsungs' "low ball" approach, no 5.1 out,
    etc, the Sony has a bit meter, elapsed time and other "extras".
    The load time others have talked about is a no problem, really,
    load times, even for the "java" discs is under a minute, mostly.
    And the upconversion is good too, hardware secrets
    reports that the upscaled pic is as good as a 1200$ scaler.
    One problem, tho, no center or sub on 5.1 out.
    GOTTA email Sony about it, and yes its set to 5.1, not stereo, first thing I checked.
    This is the latest player, all black front, etc.
    Only problem now is that HD broadcast stuff looks a bit "drab".
    I cant beleive the black level on this thing, not to mention the color saturation.
    I have bought my last DVD.
    Have you tried the HDMI or optical out?
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    Bought the PS3 over the weekend. I ended up with the 80GB because I could not find any 40GB models anywhere. Maybe because they are being discontinued? Got the remote as well.

    Took about 15 minutes to set it up from start to finish. Very easy and staight forward. I have not watched a BlueRay movie yet but I did squeeze in a standard DVD (The Bank Job) last night. Like LJ mentioned, it did a pretty good job upscaling. Very nice picture and great sound. Tonight, I have the BR movie "Jumper" to watch. Probably a lame movie but should be a good introduction to BR. Plus that Bilson girl is hot.

    Anyway, thanks again for call the help you guys gave me and I am confident I made a good choice. Might even buy a game one day.............yeah, probably not.

    JSE

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