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The top of the range Sony, Samsung and LG are similarly priced, but with edge LED lighting and more reflective glass like panels, which tends to enhance the video image.
WHOOPS, I dropped a clanger here!!!
Before somebody notices this quote, I would like to correct this statement. ALL of the top of the range LED TVs have FULL LED backlighting!!!
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Originally Posted by Nasir
Lets compare the European Image and Sound Association (EISA) winners against the above:
Best 3D LCD is the Sony Bravia KDL 52HX900 ( sold out at the stores, replaced by slightly cheaper LX900 models, with a choice of 1 of 3 BluRay packages as a promotional gift pack thrown in).
Best 3D Plasma awarded to Panasonic TX-P50VT20.
Best 3D solution: Samsung UE46C8000 plus HT C6930W Home Theater setup.
Best Value LCD goes to LG 42LE5300 model.
Best TV technology innovation from Sharp Quattron Red, Green, Blue and Yellow as the 4th colour for better golden colors.
And the best LCD out here: crowns the controversial Philips 46PFL9705 model.
The Philips is controversial in the sense that I have come across 2 reviews, one of which points the accusing finger as being the WORST 3D TV with a hefty price tag, while the other practically adorns it with the BEST 3D TV, just falling short of the Plasmas!!
As for the prices, the figures are comparable but in EUROS, that makes it 40 per cent more expensive here!!!
To make matters worse, none of the sets on display are calibrated, with each maker also kicking all competing tvs a fair distance away!! Its like going to a number of small booths only displaying one single manufacturer. No side by side comparison possible.
Also, I read somewhere that both Sony and Philips were going to use the innovative Sharp Quattron technology panels in their offerings. Rumor or not.......
I am still smitten by the Philips Full Back Panel LED lighting LCD, but the award was for a bigger 46 inch panel, but can only hope that its 40inch panel has the same attributes!!
The top of the range Sony, Samsung and LG are similarly priced, but with edge LED lighting and more reflective glass like panels, which tends to enhance the video image. I am not in a hurry, so my search for technical reviews is still on. I have learned a lot from interacting with our SIR, and it does not squash MY dreams of owning what I feel to be a an excellent TV. I regard his input as hard information on avoiding a lemon.
I will be honest on the fact that I do not have a clue as to who makes the Philips panels, but there was a Sony full LED backlit panel sometime ago.
A Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to all.
My friend loves his Phillips 47" that is in his bedroom.:1:
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They need a separate category for plasma and LCD, two different types of tech.
All I AM SAYING.:1:
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Well, I just recieved January issue of ConsumerReports and in this issue they tested over 14 32-inch LCDs. As you can see, Philips 32 inch LCD ranked in term of picture quality at bottom of the pack along with Westinghouse and Magnavox.
They also tested three 32-inch LG models (including LED model) and non of them received "Excellent" rating in term of picture quality. Lack of Deep Black is hurting LG models.
Here is the break down (* are 720p):
LCDs that got "Excellent" rating in term of picture quaity (HD and SD) are:
Samsung LN32C530 $540
Vizio M32ONV $600
*Sony KDL-32EX308 $460
LCDs that got "Very Good" rating (HD and SD) are:
LG 32LE5400 $900
LG 32LD520 $630
LG 32LE530 $750
*Panasonic TC-L32X2 $425
*Samsung UN32C4000 $600
Sony KDL-32EX40B $700
*Sanyo DP32670 $400
Insignia NS-32E570A11 $500
LCDs that got "Good" rating in term of picture quality are:
Philips 32PFL4505D $550
*Westinghouse LD-3255VX $320
LCDs that got ""Fair" rating is:
*Magnavox 32MD350B $400
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Westinghouse and MAGNOVOX started out building low cost sets of average to good quality,
got some decent reviews. Guess that was to build market share.
THE COST CUTTERS came in and that was that.:1:
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Originally Posted by Smokey
Well, I just recieved January issue of ConsumerReports and in this issue they tested over 14 32-inch LCDs. As you can see, Philips 32 inch LCD ranked in term of picture quality at bottom of the pack along with Westinghouse and Magnavox.
They also tested three 32-inch LG models (including LED model) and non of them received "Excellent" rating in term of picture quality. Lack of Deep Black is hurting LG models.
Here is the break down (* are 720p):
LCDs that got "Excellent" rating in term of picture quaity (HD and SD) are:
Samsung LN32C530 $540
Vizio M32ONV $600
*Sony KDL-32EX308 $460
LCDs that got "Very Good" rating (HD and SD) are:
LG 32LE5400 $900
LG 32LD520 $630
LG 32LE530 $750
*Panasonic TC-L32X2 $425
*Samsung UN32C4000 $600
Sony KDL-32EX40B $700
*Sanyo DP32670 $400
Insignia NS-32E570A11 $500
LCDs that got "Good" rating in term of picture quality are:
Philips 32PFL4505D $550
*Westinghouse LD-3255VX $320
LCDs that got ""Fair" rating is:
*Magnavox 32MD350B $400
Funny how "Vizio" keeps getting decent reviews, in spite of several on this board claiming
its the worst company EVER.
Gotta luv it! heh heh heh.:1:
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Hello Smokey,
Thanks for the input. I have NOT yet seen the series 4000 Philips lcds here on display.
The lowest available set here is the Philips PFL5605 32 in lcd.
I am interested in opinions regarding the top of the range 9000 series, specifically the PFL 9705 LED 3D ready variety. The lower the number the MORE competitive the models seem to be. Personally, the only 3 things going for the Philips are the matte screen and supposedly lower response time. The 3rd is what I have seen with my own 2 eyes ( YES, I ONLY have 2!! ) and that is the motion in the better Philips sets suffers less than it does with other makes. But that as anyone will tell you is subjective. On the minus side, I found the annoying flicker when I put on the 3D specs.
The price is horribly expensive, a discouraging 2700 € plus another 250€ for the transmitter and 2 pairs of specs ( a jaw dropping 4000 USD if one throws in the 3D optional pack) for the 40in version. My wife would gladly trade me in for much less, and I hate to admit it, but I DO NOT come with a 2 year warranty of any sorts!!!
So, I am gritting my teeth and taking everybody´s advice: WAIT for the price slashes and promos and my CRT to fail!!
The much cheaper 3D Samsung LCD is a non starter for me because I verified ( and Sir TTT remarked in one of our exchanges ) the LCDs just do NOT have the brightness required due to the loss when the light goes through the 3D specs!!
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Originally Posted by Nasir
Hello Smokey,
Thanks for the input. I have NOT yet seen the series 4000 Philips lcds here on display.
The lowest available set here is the Philips PFL5605 32 in lcd.
I am interested in opinions regarding the top of the range 9000 series, specifically the PFL 9705 LED 3D ready variety. The lower the number the MORE competitive the models seem to be. Personally, the only 3 things going for the Philips are the matte screen and supposedly lower response time. The 3rd is what I have seen with my own 2 eyes ( YES, I ONLY have 2!! ) and that is the motion in the better Philips sets suffers less than it does with other makes. But that as anyone will tell you is subjective. On the minus side, I found the annoying flicker when I put on the 3D specs.
The price is horribly expensive, a discouraging 2700 € plus another 250€ for the transmitter and 2 pairs of specs ( a jaw dropping 4000 USD if one throws in the 3D optional pack) for the 40in version. My wife would gladly trade me in for much less, and I hate to admit it, but I DO NOT come with a 2 year warranty of any sorts!!!
So, I am gritting my teeth and taking everybody´s advice: WAIT for the price slashes and promos and my CRT to fail!!
The much cheaper 3D Samsung LCD is a non starter for me because I verified ( and Sir TTT remarked in one of our exchanges ) the LCDs just do NOT have the brightness required due to the loss when the light goes through the 3D specs!!
GOOD LUCK finding a 3D set that doesn't dim.
My last experience with 3D was on an 80" DLP, and it dimmed when 3D was on,
and DLP is known for being bright.:1:
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