• 07-05-2007, 05:37 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GMichael
    Yes he is. And I don't really think that he's as bad as he seems. It's just his flare and sarcasm that blow his POV into extremes.
    And it does spice things up around here.

    I agree 10000000%. He's probably going to think I've caved in to his DLP bashing (:frown2: ), but it's very important to the livelihood of the forums that people post their opinions no matter how outragous or off the wall they may seem. If anyone's just flat out wrong about a point of fact, they'll be made aware of the mistake.

    BTW, you may not have noticed but my DVD-A monitor problem is no longer an issue (see pics).
  • 07-05-2007, 05:44 AM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    I agree 10000000%. He's probably going to think I've caved in to his DLP bashing (:frown2: ), but it's very important to the livelihood of the forums that people post their opinions no matter how outragous or off the wall they may seem. If anyone's just flat out wrong about a point of fact, they'll be made aware of the mistake.

    BTW, you may not have noticed but my DVD-A monitor problem is no longer an issue (see pics).

    Great pics. I love your speakers. And I love that you are driving them with the same receiver I have in my bedroom. It's good to know that it can do more than drive the little E20's I have mine hooked up to.
    So what was the fix? How is it working?
  • 07-05-2007, 06:08 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    I don't think the pictures in the DVD-A Monitor thread that I started in this General Audio forum show the receiver, but thanks. Thruthfully, I don't know that I really have the right receiver to match up with the B&W's, but one thing that I'm not happy with is the lack of digital inputs. One coax and two opticals are proving to be limitations. Anyway, here's a link to the thread with the pics of the TV I used after seeing your picture...
    http://forums.audioreview.com/general-audio/monitor-dvd-23255.html
  • 07-05-2007, 06:20 AM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    I don't think the pictures in the DVD-A Monitor thread that I started in this General Audio forum show the receiver, but thanks. Thruthfully, I don't know that I really have the right receiver to match up with the B&W's, but one thing that I'm not happy with is the lack of digital inputs. One coax and two opticals are proving to be limitations. Anyway, here's a link to the thread with the pics of the TV I used after seeing your picture...
    http://forums.audioreview.com/showthread.php?t=23255

    It is a few years old. And was a basic model for Yammy even back then. I doubt that it brings out everything your B&W's can do.
    I did see your pics. AR puts any pic that you post into your profile. I poked around. I thought the picture of you in that pink dress was hilarious.:eek6:
  • 07-05-2007, 07:42 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GMichael
    It is a few years old. And was a basic model for Yammy even back then. I doubt that it brings out everything your B&W's can do.
    I did see your pics. AR puts any pic that you post into your profile. I poked around. I thought the picture of you in that pink dress was hilarious.:eek6:

    :o Oh Gawd, he was looking at my profile!
  • 07-05-2007, 07:44 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GMichael
    It is a few years old. And was a basic model for Yammy even back then. I doubt that it brings out everything your B&W's can do.

    Upgrade? Upgrade? Did someone say upgrade? :ihih:
  • 07-05-2007, 07:57 AM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    Upgrade? Upgrade? Did someone say upgrade? :ihih:

    How about a good 2 channel amp?
  • 07-05-2007, 09:59 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    And you've got some land in Florida I might be interested in as well huh? :rolleyes: :biggrin5:
  • 07-05-2007, 10:04 AM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    And you've got some land in Florida I might be interested in as well huh? :rolleyes: :biggrin5:

    No to the amp?
  • 07-05-2007, 10:17 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    Details boy! Details!
  • 07-05-2007, 10:26 AM
    GMichael
    It was a general idea for an upgrade. I don't have an amp to sell. Sorry. :nonod: I would like one someday. But not today.
    Seems like it would just just what you could use though. Those B&W's must be a strain on that poor Yammy.
  • 07-06-2007, 01:45 AM
    pixelthis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GMichael
    Yes he is. And I don't really think that he's as bad as he seems. It's just his flare and sarcasm that blow his POV into extremes.
    And it does spice things up around here.

    HELLO!!!
    I'M standing right here!
    And I dont "bash" dlp, just state facts, and people will have a hard time remembering
    just what dlp IS in ten years or so
    And I really love your wedges with the foam on em, rich, looks like something a redneck would use to prop up one end of his magnavox color-teevee.
    Danged
    Lamp
    Petered out agin:incazzato:
  • 07-06-2007, 04:28 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    HELLO!!!
    I'M standing right here!

    You could be standing a mile away and we'd still feel your presence!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pix
    And I dont "bash" dlp, just state facts, and people will have a hard time remembering
    just what dlp IS in ten years or so

    My boss just received his 25th anniversary gift from the company. A Samsug DLP with LEDS. They replace the lamp and the color wheel. Do you understand what I mean when I say DLP technology is evolving Pix?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pix
    And I really love your wedges with the foam on em, rich, looks like something a redneck would use to prop up one end of his magnavox color-teevee.
    Danged
    Lamp
    Petered out agin:incazzato:

    As opposed to this:
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pix
    I'll send you some shims to put under your speaker and we'll both be better off.
    I'll even wrap em in airconditioner foam for ya.
    My neighbors got a window unit and is going outta town for a few days

    I think the first picture I posted showed your method. My speakers are too valuable to me to just let one of them dangle from two shims. And besides, you're suggesting an illegal activity, so, no thanks! :nonod:

    And don't forget, I'm not a redneck I'm a transplant... from New Jersey. I hate the Dallas Cowboys. 'Nuf said. :ciappa:
  • 07-06-2007, 05:23 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GMichael
    It was a general idea for an upgrade. I don't have an amp to sell. Sorry. :nonod: I would like one someday. But not today.
    Seems like it would just just what you could use though. Those B&W's must be a strain on that poor Yammy.

    Here come the really dumb questions:

    2 channel amp in addition to the existing receiver? Doesn't that mean the receiver would need to have pre-outs?
  • 07-08-2007, 05:26 AM
    pixelthis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    You could be standing a mile away and we'd still feel your presence!

    My boss just received his 25th anniversary gift from the company. A Samsug DLP with LEDS. They replace the lamp and the color wheel. Do you understand what I mean when I say DLP technology is evolving Pix?

    As opposed to this:

    I think the first picture I posted showed your method. My speakers are too valuable to me to just let one of them dangle from two shims. And besides, you're suggesting an illegal activity, so, no thanks! :nonod:

    And don't forget, I'm not a redneck I'm a transplant... from New Jersey. I hate the Dallas Cowboys. 'Nuf said. :ciappa:



    Yeah, you can get a DLP with leds for a mere four grand, same performance as a thousand dollar lcd
    Betamax was superiour to vhs in every way but it lost out. Why? It could only record for an hour and a half, and by the time they "fixed" this prob it was too late.
    When DLP came out it was great, better than the crt sets out then and a 20in lcd ran about 2 grand.
    But lcd got cheaper a lot faster than a lot of people thought, and you can HANG EM ON THE WALL.
    Dont think this is important? Well if your tv was sitting on the wall placement of your CC wouldnt be a problem.
    Jvc thinks its important enough to make a x-lia set that is thin and will hang on a wall,
    but the geometric distortion is a problem
    But the real reason hanging on a wall is important is that the WAF (wife acceptance
    factor) goes away
    As for your teevee, you need another stand two cabinets on each side with a bridge runing across for your CC, YOU'RE CURRENT STAND IS'NT built for the substantial CC you
    have, and you're set is too thin to hold it on top, anything youi do to fix this will be a rig except to get a stand that can hold your CC
    And dont misunderstand me, sometimes in this barbaric age we live in people with
    faulty reasoning abilities confuse fact with opinion.
    For instance DLP has a nice picture and a vidiot would probably not mind the shortcomings to have one, but the sad truth is that most either dont notice or dont care.
    DLP used to have a size advantage but with 50in LCD coming out thats the end of that.
    Its a fact that there is no advantage to buying A DIP set over a lcd, and a lot of stuff you have to put up with, and dlp might be "evolving" but LCD is evolving too, and a lot faster because its getting the most research because most think its the future, and they're right
    even with front projectors three chip lcd is a tough competitor and thats not that big a market anyway.
    I've seen this happen a million times rich but the current scene is amazing even to me, I never dreamed that LCD would take over this fast.
    But it did, and if those who prize picture q over convience and style (and only a slightly
    better pq) than dlp is gonna follow the crt out the window, no matter how fast it "evolves".
    It was made for an age when the crt dominated, I had a 60in mitshu that looked like the
    box the U.N building came in, but those days are over and nowadays a 16in wide dlp
    is in competition with a 3 ince wide lcd that will last 20 years, doesnt need a bulb every two or three years at 200 bucks a pop, or have rainbow artifacts from a color wheel
    that spins so fast it streaches the tech for electric motors.
    Just dont shoot the messenger okay?:1:
  • 07-08-2007, 08:49 AM
    kexodusc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Yeah, you can get a DLP with leds for a mere four grand, same performance as a thousand dollar lcd

    Dude, I know you feel the urge to defend the stuff you own, but c'mon...$4000? You can buy them for half of that.
  • 07-08-2007, 01:59 PM
    Rich-n-Texas
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Yeah, you can get a DLP with leds for a mere four grand, same performance as a thousand dollar lcd

    http://shop4.outpost.com/product/521...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG

    $1772 at Fry's.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LEDplease
    Blah blah blah blah

    :rolleyes:
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Messenger
    Just dont shoot the messenger okay?:1:

    No reason to shoot the messenger as long as he's got his facts straight...
    BANG! You're dead.
  • 07-10-2007, 02:09 AM
    pixelthis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kexodusc
    Dude, I know you feel the urge to defend the stuff you own, but c'mon...$4000? You can buy them for half of that.

    The latest issue of either s&v or widescreen review quoted a price of four grand, and the picture didnt exactly blow em away.
    But with a better sxrd selling for half that the big question remains why buy one?
    PQ freaks will go sxrd or plasma, and the rest will go LCD
    I grew up in a world where most catalogs had PAGES of turntables of all types,
    I remember the laserdisc, elcassette , DAD, selectavision, betamax, and theres nothing special about DLP, indeed it has never acheived the market penetration of a lot of devices that couldnt cut it.
    There are more convienent, cheaper techs out there and the picture looks just as good if not better in some cases, and more expensive tech for the pq freaks.
    DLP has always relied on tricks to work, color wheels, expensive lightbulbs with the lifespan of a fruitfly, and, later on, "dithering" to get 1080p
    Anybody that buys one is gonna be an orphan sooner or later.
    There's just no reason to buy one:dita:
  • 07-10-2007, 02:24 AM
    pixelthis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    Here come the really dumb questions:

    2 channel amp in addition to the existing receiver? Doesn't that mean the receiver would need to have pre-outs?

    DUH!
    If yours doesnt just look at it as a good reason to upgrade:thumbsup:

    Or a middle/top of the line receiver might more suit your purposes, a seperates system isnt for everybody, and nothing wrong with that, I myself am having trouble getting the scratch for the final leg of my system, a seperate am to power my integra 7.4, using that as a pre-pro.
    Just make sure its worthy of those fantastic (where did you say you live again) speakers.
    Hate to sic the bowers and wilkins secret police on your redneck butt for abusing
    (chorus of ahhhs in background) B&W'S:nono:
  • 07-10-2007, 02:37 AM
    pixelthis
    so EVEN IF THESE "NEW TECH DLP " sets are selling for firesale prices how does this bolster your argument that this format will be around?
    I had a girlfriend once that would'nt get rid of her old console TV because the "picture
    was so good", purple people and all. Try and convince her that a DLP is better enough to justify a 16in wide cabinet that wont hang on the wall (most wives control the pursestrings you know)
    Thats why they're called "pursestrings", not WALLETSTRINGS:ciappa: :prrr:
  • 07-10-2007, 03:48 AM
    kexodusc
    Wow...I've never met an LCD fanboy before. Damn...
  • 07-10-2007, 05:21 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    Yeah, he's so enthusiastic about his "HD for the common folk" TV he has to take breaks between posts in order to catch his breath. :rolleyes:

    I'll check your facts Pix and see if maybe this time I should break out the 9MM...
  • 07-10-2007, 05:31 AM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    Here come the really dumb questions:

    2 channel amp in addition to the existing receiver? Doesn't that mean the receiver would need to have pre-outs?

    Yeah, don't you have any?
  • 07-10-2007, 06:11 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    No. So what would I need to do to get more power to the speakers? I've never owned separates, don't know what the term pre-pro means, don't know why I'd want a 2 channel amp when I'm driving 6 speakers... etc. I spent a bit of time in the amp/preamp forum, but nothing there to teach me the basics, and I don't want to be sent to some long, highly technical website explanation that I spend hours at and not be able to ask questions *in-line*, so to speak.

    I have room treatments to get in place, but now I wonder if after doing that and then upgrading to a system that's better matched to my speakers whether I'll have to add or subtract to achieve the proper acoustics. I've spoken previously to my receiver's limitations with regards to digital inputs, so it wouldn't be too hard to eBay my 5740 for something that's better suited to my B&W's.

    A lot to think about...
  • 07-10-2007, 06:20 AM
    GMichael
    I just checked the manual on-line. It seems that the HTR-5740 does NOT have pre-pro's. So that route is out. I think your system already sounds great to me. Why not leave it as is?

    My original suggestion of a 2 channel amp "would" have taken most of the load off your receiver so that it could get away with just driving the center, rear and surrounds. But it's not to be. You'de have to get a new receiver or a pre-amp and amps to increase your power.