Any normal looking HDTV's over 46" in regard to vertical height & horizontal length

[hershon]

First off I'm one of these people who hate watching movies in letterbox format and I prefer to have my TV filled up with the picture even if it means things are cut off. That said, are there any HDTV ready rear projection sets over 46" that have the picture screen a normal vertical height and horizontal length rather than the "widescreen", if thats what its called, format which where the vertical height is alot smaller than the horizontal length if this makes sense to you. My current Sony 46" picture screen is about 27" vertically high by 37" horizontally long and I'm trying to find an HDTV setup with similar dimensions.
If I'm using the wrong terms in regards to the vertical hight and horizontal length , please let me know the proper terminology.

[markw]

That's like saying you want a 12" speaker that's only 6" in diameter.

[wasch_24]

I'm confused. If you get an HDTV that has a 4:3 ratio (Almost as tall as it is wide) you will have more black bars then ever before. Espacially while watching HD broadcasts. With a widescreen, 16:9 HDTV, the only DVD's that will have blackbars are those that have a ratio that is greater than 1.85:1. The HD broadcast will likely always fill the screen because most providers 'hack' the original aspect rario to 16:9 (1.77:1) for you. This trend is slowly changing but for the most part it is still common. If you watch regular TV on the widescreen TV then you can stretch it to fill the widescreen, most TV's have several different means of doing this. If you don't like the stretched look than you can watch it with vertical pillars on each side. As long as the TV is properly calibrated there is little risk of burn in. If you get an HDTV that is at the 4:3 (1.33:1) ratio then the HD broadcasts will always be letterboxed with the blackbars all of the time because there are very few TV's out there that are capable of manipulating the HD signal, i.e zoom or crop. In the end you will end up with more letterboxing with the "normal" looking HDTV.

[hershon]

I wish I knew what you're talking about. My thing is, I'd rather see a picture filled with my whole screen of my original 24 X37 screeen measurements and not see parts of the original picture than see this on say for example 15 X50 measurements if that makes sense to you. My point isn't too debate you guys but to find out if they're any HDTV's with normal looking screen dimensions?

I'm confused. If you get an HDTV that has a 4:3 ratio (Almost as tall as it is wide) you will have more black bars then ever before. Espacially while watching HD broadcasts. With a widescreen, 16:9 HDTV, the only DVD's that will have blackbars are those that have a ratio that is greater than 1.85:1. The HD broadcast will likely always fill the screen because most providers 'hack' the original aspect rario to 16:9 (1.77:1) for you. This trend is slowly changing but for the most part it is still common. If you watch regular TV on the widescreen TV then you can stretch it to fill the widescreen, most TV's have several different means of doing this. If you don't like the stretched look than you can watch it with vertical pillars on each side. As long as the TV is properly calibrated there is little risk of burn in. If you get an HDTV that is at the 4:3 (1.33:1) ratio then the HD broadcasts will always be letterboxed with the blackbars all of the time because there are very few TV's out there that are capable of manipulating the HD signal, i.e zoom or crop. In the end you will end up with more letterboxing with the "normal" looking HDTV.

[tpcounty]

I wish I knew what you're talking about. My thing is, I'd rather see a picture filled with my whole screen of my original 24 X37 screeen measurements and not see parts of the original picture than see this on say for example 15 X50 measurements if that makes sense to you. My point isn't too debate you guys but to find out if they're any HDTV's with normal looking screen dimensions?

My friend has a RCA model that is HDTV but it has a "FULL SCREEN" option that allows you to fill the whole screen. It does cut off some of the picture but it converts a widescreen image to full screen so that you don't have any "stretch" to the image but like I said it does cut off a little bit around the edges. I don't know if that is what you are driving at?

[hershon]

That's like saying you want a 12" speaker that's only 6" in diameter.

If the other 6" are totally extraneous, yeah, what's the problem? Sorry I personally do not miss anything that's cut off by not being in a letterbox format. What's your point? In regards to your analogy, you're imply that I'd be missing 50% of the picture when in fact we're talking about what 10% give ot take? My point isn't too debate you guys but to find out if they're any HDTV's with normal looking screen dimensions?

[markw]

I personally do not miss anything that's cut off by not being in a letterbox format. What's your point?

That's just you. Others want that extra range of vision that HD/letterbox afford. That's one of the reasons for buying it. More picture.

I'd venture that it's somewhat more than 10% you lose, except prehaps for Anamorphic wide screen releases which, IMNSHO, are ripoffs. Just a guess, but on a real wide screen releawse, I guestimate it's more like a third of the pic that's lost.

Remember, one monkey don't stop the show.

[hershon]

To quote myself again, "My point isn't too debate you guys but to find out if they're any HDTV's with normal looking screen dimensions?" You're not answering my question.

...if you still don't understand it.

[wasch_24]

To quote myself again, "My point isn't too debate you guys but to find out if they're any HDTV's with normal looking screen dimensions?" You're not answering my question.

No, not that I have ever seen. Only 36" or smaller TV's.

The whole point of a big screen, read as 46" or larger, HDTV is to take advantage of the widescreen (16:9, 1.77:1) aspect ratio.

[Slosh]

I'd venture that it's somewhat more than 10% you lose, except prehaps for Anamorphic wide screen releases which, IMNSHO, are ripoffs. Just a guess, but on a real wide screen releawse, I guestimate it's more like a third of the pic that's lost.

Nonanamorphic wide screen releases are the rip off. Straight letterboxed DVDs essentially throw away 25% of the resolution. You want anamorphic transfers.

[markw]

Nonanamorphic wide screen releases are the rip off. Straight letterboxed DVDs essentially throw away 33% of the resolution. You want anamorphic transfers.

Perhaps I'm confused, but here's what I've noticed from these releases.

Hellboy says "Anamorphic Wide Screen" on the box. The picture has almost no top/bottom bars and is not a heckuva lot "wider" than a full screen picture. I believe Pirates of the Caribbean is the sameway but I'll need to check it out.

Most releases that I've seen labeled simply "wide screen" have much more top/bottom bars and more relative picture width, as relative to the picture height.