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    VR-1 question...

    a year or so ago, I aduitioned some Von Schweikert VR-1's while looking for a bedroom system...
    I listened to classical music at the time, and they sounded great... (did not try any other music)

    a month or two ago, I purchased a pair of "B-Stock" for a lot less than retail... I thought it was a great deal...

    I have found, these speakers, just like a year or so ago, sound great with classical, but if I play rock, they don't sound so good...

    my system...
    Pioneer CD Changer - Transport
    Denon DA500 - DAC
    B&K PT3 s2 - PreAmp
    Anthem PVA 2 - Amp

    Speakers are ~ 5 feet apart, ~ 1 foot from wall on a dresser centered on the long wall of a 16x12 foot room...

    I typically do not adjust the preamp bass/trebble settings, but I found for rock music, if I hit the "loud" button on the preamp (yes it has a loud button), it sounds much better (both highs and bass sound better), although still not as good as say, my jm labs...
    with classical music, it sounds good without any adjustments...

    do you have any advice for me to try, or is this just a down side of the VR-1's?

    thanks in advance for any advice/suggestions...
    HT: Anthem AVM 50 / PVA-7; Focal JM Lab 4x Chorus 716 S, CC 700 S, 2x Chorus 706S; 2x 12s - Homebuilt Sub
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    Interesting. I have my VR1's in my bedroom as well, which is actually a bit bigger than yours. Driven by a vintage Marantz 2230, their dynamic envelope exceeds both my B&W CDM1NT's and the JML 706S's I compared them to in the same rig. IOW, they rocked harder.

    My guess is the dresser is negating any room reinforcement the VR1's might benefit from. Have you tried placing them on stands on either side of the dresser? I've got mine sitting on mass loaded Skylan stands on either side of our armoire on the short wall and have more bass than I could possible ask for. Honestly, I've never even considered adding a sub. Adjusting your speaker placement can have a huge effect on sound quality.

    As for the "loudness" button, if it sounds better to you that way, listen to it that way. I know, I know. The "purist" in you says that's sacrilege. I say ignore the purist and listen to music however you most enjoy it. After all, that button was put their by the designers for this very reason; to counteract room interaction problems.

    Enjoy the music. After all, isn't that why we're here?

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    I got rid of my B&W for a similar reason. Classical and Jazz sounded great, but on other types of music it was something I really didnt care for. Ideally, I would like to have about 4 different setups for different needs. Or maybe spending them all in one system would do it.....

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    I am sure the speaker placement would help with the problem...
    and also, if it sounds better with loud, use loud... good point ;o)
    fyi, with loud on, I do not need a sub, it has plenty of bass,
    and as for the comparrison, it was to my 716S, which I am sure are placed a lot better than the VR-1's (in the living room)...

    thanks for the assistance topspeed
    HT: Anthem AVM 50 / PVA-7; Focal JM Lab 4x Chorus 716 S, CC 700 S, 2x Chorus 706S; 2x 12s - Homebuilt Sub
    2CH: B&K PT3 s2, Anthem PVA-2, VonSchweikert VR-1
    Computer: Denon AVR 2805, Old Tecnic & Optimus Speakers
    2004 KTM 200 SX
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    2002 Single Cab, 3" cornfed lift, 34"LTB & 31" AT's
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    jrhymeammo, did you attempt different placements or stands? if so did anything improve the sound at all?
    HT: Anthem AVM 50 / PVA-7; Focal JM Lab 4x Chorus 716 S, CC 700 S, 2x Chorus 706S; 2x 12s - Homebuilt Sub
    2CH: B&K PT3 s2, Anthem PVA-2, VonSchweikert VR-1
    Computer: Denon AVR 2805, Old Tecnic & Optimus Speakers
    2004 KTM 200 SX
    2003 Spyder
    2002 Single Cab, 3" cornfed lift, 34"LTB & 31" AT's
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    Yes, I was consistantly moving my speakers, and trying different arrangements. At the end, I just didnt like their sound charateristcs for certain music I like to play.

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