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    Has anyone ordered any tubes from Upscale Audio out of California? I'm looking to roll the tubes in my Van Alstine DAC and Preamp. Franks recommends swapping out the 6N1P tubes for some 6CG7's. The one's that I need art the Mazda/Brimer 6CG7's because these are the only ones that will fit without having to mod the top of the chassis. They are supposed to give more bottom end as well as a wide sound stage with more depth and detail.
    Pass Labs X250 amp, BAT Vk-51se Preamp,
    Thorens TD-145 TT, Bellari phono preamp, Nagaoka MP-200 Cartridge
    Magnepan QR1.6 speakers
    Luxman DA-06 DAC
    Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid Tube DAC
    Dual Martin Logan Original Dynamo Subs
    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
    Adcom GFR 700 AVR
    Cables- Cardas, Silnote, BJC
    Velodyne CHT 8 sub

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    I've never bought from them but hear they are alright. I spoke to them before though and wasn't impressed by what I heard. If they can't talk the hobby I get doubts. It could have just been that one guy though.

    If the other tube is better I have to wonder why Frank didn't just use it in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
    I've never bought from them but hear they are alright. I spoke to them before though and wasn't impressed by what I heard. If they can't talk the hobby I get doubts. It could have just been that one guy though.

    If the other tube is better I have to wonder why Frank didn't just use it in the first place.
    This is a good questions. I heard it said that equipment makers are interested in reliable supply over the producte lifecycle, and consistent rather than absolute component quality. Thus you're unlikely to see exquisite but rare NOS tubes turning up in new product.
    Last edited by Feanor; 02-11-2010 at 06:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    This is a good questions. I heard it said that equipment makers are interested in reliable supply over the producte lifecycle, and consistent rather than absolute component quality. Thus you're unlikely to see exquisite but rare NOS tubes turning up in new product.
    That makes sense.

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    The reason Frank does not use the 6CG7 tubes in his production models is that only the Mazda tubes fit in the chassis' without modification. The brand of 6CG7 tube he was recommending was too tall to fit in the chassis'. Frank was not aware of the Mazda tubes until one of his customers found the Mazda's and posted it on the audio circles forum. The Mazda tubes are shorter than the typical 6CG& tubes and will fit. They are also more expensive at $40 a tube and he is all about keeping costs down for the customer. In addition, he is discontinuing his current line of tube Preamps and DAC's and has newer, better and more up to date models that are not posted on his web site yet but can be found on the Audio Circles forum.

    On thing that's nice about Frank is that if he finds an up grade that will work with his equipment, he will pass it on to his customers whether it's a DIY mod or one that he has to do.

    His customer service is second to none and he has a large loyal following and is always available to his customers by phone, email and the audio circles forum.
    Pass Labs X250 amp, BAT Vk-51se Preamp,
    Thorens TD-145 TT, Bellari phono preamp, Nagaoka MP-200 Cartridge
    Magnepan QR1.6 speakers
    Luxman DA-06 DAC
    Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid Tube DAC
    Dual Martin Logan Original Dynamo Subs
    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
    Adcom GFR 700 AVR
    Cables- Cardas, Silnote, BJC
    Velodyne CHT 8 sub

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    I have talked to Kevin, and thought he was an elegant a** hole.

    They have always had the BAT VK55 show sample piece for sale.
    I'm not sure if it's the same one, but looks like the amp is still there....

    The ad states no email pricing and call for the best price. So, I called and talked to Kevin. I asked him how much, then he simply told me "If you have to ask, you can't buy it." He then went off on some sales pitch, while I was feeling a bit of shock.

    I've always read he's really nice to deal with.
    If you have tons of cash and doesn't need to ask about the price, he may be the nicest guy to work with.........

    I've ordered tons of preamp tubes and few quads of power tubes since this incident, cuz he's tubes seem reliable. Perhaps I should look for other places to purchase my precious tubes.

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    If you're suspicious of being screwed, then no, you'll get what you pay for (from my personal experience). As for Kevin being an "elegant a-hole', dunno, I guess no more or less than the other dealers.

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