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  1. 12-27-2005, 11:03 PM #1
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    Tubes vs Solid State

    I unfortunately have been spending an inordinate amount time researching hifi components in the last couple of weeks. My boss doesnt seem to appreciate it though! I have seen a bunch of good press and reviews for Jolida especially the JD 100A CD player. The price is a bit more than the Rotel 1072 CD player I have been thinking about lately. Anyone have any good input regarding this player as well as the Jolida 1501 hybrid integrated amp?
    Thanks everyone!
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  2. 12-28-2005, 07:52 AM #2
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    I have had the RCD 1072 for a while. It is extremely quiet, delivers honest & accurate playback, and maintains clarity throughout the dynamic range with no detectable distortion. I think the absolute quiet between musical passages enhances the overall impact of the unit. I definitely recommend it especially for the price.

    I know nothing about the other unit(s) you are enquiring about...
    Cary Audio Designs SLP-05 Preamp [Sylvania 6SN7GTB]
    Cary Audio Designs CAD 500 Monoblocks
    Cary Audio Designs 303/300 HDCD [Mullard 12AU7s]
    Rotel RCD-1072 HDCD
    Luxman T117 Tuner
    Magnepan 3.6Rs
    JL Audio Fathom F110 subs
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  3. 12-28-2005, 03:16 PM #3
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    If you do a search on Audiogon and/or Audio Asylum, you will find a wealth of information about the Jolida JD100A, as well as the 1501. I own the JD100A and love it, but most users change the tubes to tailor the sound to their tastes. Part of the fun!
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  4. 12-30-2005, 09:37 AM #4
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    Historically, SS has provided a solutions with a lower THD.

    I would be interested in hearing the numbers for the tube system you are considering and compare it to the THD's of comparable SS component.
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  5. 12-30-2005, 01:33 PM #5
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    Some listeners prefer the sound of tubes in their system regardless of measurements, and some do not. Both positions have merit, which is why you need to actually listen to determine which YOU prefer.
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  6. 12-30-2005, 04:53 PM #6
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    my preference is to run high power high current solid state power amplification while using a tubed preamplifier. i feel that this configuration offers the best of both worlds. tube rolling can let you fine tune your system based on your personal preference. i am currently running Odyssey extreme monoblock amplifiers and a Anthem Pre 1L tube preamplifier with four premium grade Amperex 7308 twin triode tubes. this combination is working very well for me and is just one of many options that may work for you in your system.thanks....WCW III
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  7. 12-30-2005, 05:48 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by westcott
    Historically, SS has provided a solutions with a lower THD.

    I would be interested in hearing the numbers for the tube system you are considering and compare it to the THD's of comparable SS component.
    Wouldn't it be more productive to hear the component than to look at numbers on a sheet? Historically, some of the components I have played with over the years with the worst specs have sounded the best, and sometimes the ones with the best specs have sounded the worst.

    Numbers lie. Its what they do best.
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    The preceding comments have not been subjected to double blind testing, and so must just be taken as casual observations and not given the weight of actual scientific data to be used to prove a case in a court of law or scientific journal. The comments represent my humble opinion which will range in the readers perspective to vary from Gospel to heresy. So let it be.
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  8. 12-30-2005, 07:01 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by spacedeckman
    Wouldn't it be more productive to hear the component than to look at numbers on a sheet? Historically, some of the components I have played with over the years with the worst specs have sounded the best, and sometimes the ones with the best specs have sounded the worst.

    Numbers lie. Its what they do best.
    Having an engineering background, I would have stuck with the "I like the sound of tube amps" argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westcott
    Historically, SS has provided a solutions with a lower THD.

    I would be interested in hearing the numbers for the tube system you are considering and compare it to the THD's of comparable SS component.
    What's more important is the distortion spectra. Higher order harmonics (especially odd orders typically produced by SS unit) are more grating to the ear than low even order harmonics. THD is a largely useless figure to convey any meaningful information. If you don't believe me, listen to a Crown IC-150 (ICK) preamp some day. Wonderful THD numbers. Fingers clawing on chaulkboard sound.

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  10. 01-08-2006, 12:35 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat
    What's more important is the distortion spectra. Higher order harmonics (especially odd orders typically produced by SS unit) are more grating to the ear than low even order harmonics. THD is a largely useless figure to convey any meaningful information. If you don't believe me, listen to a Crown IC-150 (ICK) preamp some day. Wonderful THD numbers. Fingers clawing on chaulkboard sound.

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    Well said. Yes, "zing" is an understatement.
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    The preceding comments have not been subjected to double blind testing, and so must just be taken as casual observations and not given the weight of actual scientific data to be used to prove a case in a court of law or scientific journal. The comments represent my humble opinion which will range in the readers perspective to vary from Gospel to heresy. So let it be.
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