• 07-03-2007, 02:23 PM
    jim goulding
    Please help with Audio Review!!
    Anybody-

    Please help. For some reason the post I started in the "news and rumors" is locked. Bugger me if I know why!! Leaving a message on the contact us site has proven useless. Maybe this is something I did to myself. I know I was clicking on the icon at the far left side when suddenly the padlock symbol appeared. AR, or the system they use, won't let me make changes or anything. Can anyone help?? Thanks. Jim Goulding
  • 07-03-2007, 04:09 PM
    markw
    Well, I'm not a mod, nor do I play one on TV, but...
    ...These snippets from your "post" might have somethng to do with it:

    "A before and after 1/3 octave chart showing on axis and 40 degree off axis frequency response curves using a typical size monitor speaker with a surface mounted dome is included with every purchase along with a money back guarantee."

    and

    "Visit our site at diffractionbegone.com for pics and quotes to include one full review from AudiophileAudition.com".

    IMNSHO, this makes what otherwise might be a valid, informative, otherwise innocent post appear to be nothing more than a cheap way to place a free advertisement.

    Frankly, I'm surprised it wasn't deleted.

    If any mod wants to correct my thinking here, fell free. I'm just guessing.

    Also, I see you show seven posts on this site yet a search only turns up two. Any idea where the others went?
  • 07-04-2007, 06:07 AM
    JohnMichael
    I deleted the first post and someone locked the second post. As markw observed it looked like jim g was looking for free advertising and promotion.
  • 07-05-2007, 03:44 AM
    jim goulding
    Sorry JM and all . .
    I thought this was an appropriate place to introduce a new product. I wanted AR readers to have knowledge of this. Jim
  • 07-08-2007, 09:31 AM
    hifitommy
    is there a proper way to air this?
    i am not sure. query the moderators here and at other sites for suggestions.
  • 07-08-2007, 10:41 AM
    JohnMichael
    Jim if you go to the home page and scroll to the bottom you will see a link that reads "advertise with us". We have companies paying for advertising and if we let you post with a link to the product for purchase they will rightly ask why they are paying to advertise.

    I should also say that I agree that diffraction control is important and that is why I use it with my own speakers. I use a home made method of felt with adhesive backing designed to protect furniture. I became aware of the need years ago when reading about a speaker designer and he used self-adhesive foam used to insulate doors and windows to surround the tweeters.
  • 07-09-2007, 10:53 PM
    jim goulding
    jim's reply to john michael
    JM- Hi. If the product that you use is what I think it is I ran into it at Home Depot and it's used for what you said. It's quite thin and rather hard, right? The product that I'm offering is very thick and composed of highly absorbent wool minus symthetic fibers. I dare say you can do better. I would like to talk to you about that and why my classified has disappeared if you know anything. I would rather talk with you by phone at 281-468-3133 or by email at jimdgoulding@yahoo.com. I would welcome hearing from you. Thank you. Jim Goulding
  • 07-10-2007, 07:29 AM
    SlumpBuster
    It's getting shilly in here..... Goofball.
  • 07-10-2007, 07:50 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jim goulding
    JM- Hi. If the product that you use is what I think it is I ran into it at Home Depot and it's used for what you said. It's quite thin and rather hard, right? The product that I'm offering is very thick and composed of highly absorbent wool minus symthetic fibers. I dare say you can do better. I would like to talk to you about that and why my classified has disappeared if you know anything. I would rather talk with you by phone... I would welcome hearing from you. Thank you. Jim Goulding

    Pardon my intrusion here Jim Goulding, but it sounds like you're still trying to advertise your product here. I don't even remember now what exactly it is you're selling (a good thing), but like JM said, if you want to sponsor this site, he can help you. Maybe you're just starting up a new business and maybe you're not well versed on marketing over the internet, but any online community discussion forum I've seen requires advertisers to pay before they can peddle their wares. Since you're registered here on the AR forums you have the option of communicating with him privately. I'm not a person in a postion of power here, but I suggest you go the Private Message route. As it stands, you're running the risk of being banned from this website, IMO.
  • 07-10-2007, 08:28 AM
    noddin0ff
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jim goulding
    The product that I'm offering is very thick and composed of highly absorbent wool minus symthetic fibers.

    Wool minus synthetic fibers...that would be wool wouldn't it. Plain ol' wool. Sheep's clothing wool. Wool gathering wool. Or maybe, if you prefer, fleece. As in fleecing. Perhaps you obtain the fleece yourself? Are you a fleecer?
  • 07-10-2007, 08:32 AM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by noddin0ff
    Wool minus synthetic fibers...that would be wool wouldn't it. Plain ol' wool. Sheep's clothing wool. Wool gathering wool. Or maybe, if you prefer, fleece. As in fleecing. Perhaps you obtain the fleece yourself? Are you a fleecer?

    Sounds kind of like the cheeseburger I got at Jolly-bee's in the Philippines. I asked for it plain. It came without the cheese or the meet. A little too plain for me.
  • 07-10-2007, 09:07 AM
    markw
    Jim, I think you still don't get it.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jim goulding
    JM- Hi. If the product that you use is what I think it is I ran into it at Home Depot and it's used for what you said. It's quite thin and rather hard, right? The product that I'm offering is very thick and composed of highly absorbent wool minus symthetic fibers. I dare say you can do better. I would like to talk to you about that and why my classified has disappeared if you know anything.

    It sure appears you're grasping for every opportunity to shill your product on this site for free and, when an entity stoops to that level, I automatically question their ethics and the value of the product.

    IOW, bite the bullet and pay for advertising..

    Somehow, I don't think you're long for this site.
  • 07-10-2007, 09:36 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by noddin0ff
    Wool minus synthetic fibers...that would be wool wouldn't it. Plain ol' wool. Sheep's clothing wool. Wool gathering wool. Or maybe, if you prefer, fleece. As in fleecing. Perhaps you obtain the fleece yourself? Are you a fleecer?

    Green chicklett for noddingOff! Very nice seguay sir!
  • 07-11-2007, 04:35 PM
    jim goulding
    JM- Please advise
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnMichael
    Jim if you go to the home page and scroll to the bottom you will see a link that reads "advertise with us". We have companies paying for advertising and if we let you post with a link to the product for purchase they will rightly ask why they are paying to advertise.

    I should also say that I agree that diffraction control is important and that is why I use it with my own speakers. I use a home made method of felt with adhesive backing designed to protect furniture. I became aware of the need years ago when reading about a speaker designer and he used self-adhesive foam used to insulate doors and windows to surround the tweeters.

    John Michael- Please advise me on how to pull this thread. I have read Audio Review for a very long time but have only been a member for a very short time. As I tried to explain in my first reply to you, I thought "News and Rumors" sounded like a hospitable place to introduce a new product. I apologized for commiting abuse although I was unaware that I was at the time. The reaction of members has been ugly and pretty ignorant in some cases. Can you pull this for me or tell me how to do it? I want to continue my membership and otherwise contribute when I can. Thank you. Jim
  • 07-11-2007, 04:59 PM
    bobsticks
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jim goulding
    I apologized for commiting abuse although I was unaware that I was at the time. The reaction of members has been ugly and pretty ignorant in some cases.

    Frankly I hope that this thread isn't deleted. Maybe prospective, new shills will see our ugliness and ignorance and seek greener pastures. Fortunately for the rest of us you have kindly apologized for "accidently" locking your thread and seek to educate the peasantry.

    I come to AR for a sense of community, some good humor and mutual sharing. I prefer none of these things to be tainted by questionable (at best) motives. Your "What, not me?!, I would never knowingly violate a rule held by every website on the web..." facade doesn't play to well with me.

    Can't wait for your contributions to other threads. I look forward to you telling me I need to put a few pounds of Magical Pixie Wool over my amps. If I want a sweater I'll go to Macy's.
  • 07-11-2007, 06:27 PM
    jim goulding
    Geez . . gimme a break!
    John Dunlavy wrote a treatise on the subject. Along with my own experience is the reason
    I think it makes a viable after market product for the speaker owners intended. Other box speaker manufacturers have included treatments for this and it should be pretty obvious that waveform behavior is on the mind of modern speaker designers. Typical commercially available wool felt contains synthetic fibers. It's known in the trade as wet wool but you don't have to take my word for it. That's what JM has if I'm not mistaken. Your point about shilling and your expectations on this or any forum is well taken. It's all I've been hearing about in case you haven't noticed, but your manner is elitist and obnoxious. To me, at any rate. There's another place you can put some wool or your thumb, whatever you prefer.
  • 07-11-2007, 06:33 PM
    Luvin Da Blues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jim goulding
    I thought "News and Rumors" sounded like a hospitable place to introduce a new product.

    It's a great place to introduce a new product...as long as it's not yours your trying to sell:crazy:
  • 07-11-2007, 06:37 PM
    Luvin Da Blues
    But if you wanna send all of us here a free sample to demo...that would be different
  • 07-12-2007, 03:17 PM
    bobsticks
    Thank you very little...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jim goulding
    Your point about shilling and your expectations on this or any forum is well taken. It's all I've been hearing about in case you haven't noticed, but your manner is elitist and obnoxious. To me, at any rate. There's another place you can put some wool or your thumb, whatever you prefer.

    Your posts are disingenuous and my manner is certainly not as elitist or obnoxious as your attempts to cast forth careful brush-asides and continue to pitch your product. Despite polite requests to stop you have continued with each post to detail your wares.

    It truly is a rather simple matter. Again, the site has paying advertisers who will become discontented if you are allowed to continue your salse pitch free of charge. If enough of them protest or move elsewhere then the boys and girls of AR got no place to play. If you really had been a lurker here for some time you'd know that all individuals attempting to use the site as a means of free advertisement are met with the same resistance. It's a consistency thing.

    Even if I suspected that your product had some merit, and if by some cataclysmic disaster I was unable to obtain this thing you call wool, I would sooner purchase it from the nearest Iraqi sympathizer because of your approach.
  • 07-12-2007, 06:58 PM
    SlumpBuster
    I'm having some problems with difraction control. Does anyone know where I could get a room treatment that would help with it?


    PS: I'm not afraid to throw alot of money at this problem as long as I see results.
  • 07-12-2007, 07:10 PM
    Luvin Da Blues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SlumpBuster
    I'm having some problems with difraction control. Does anyone know where I could get a room treatment that would help with it?


    PS: I'm not afraid to throw alot of money at this problem as long as I see results.

    Not a clue...sorry.

    :idea:

    You could DIY with Wool minus synthetic fibers tho.
  • 07-12-2007, 07:22 PM
    jim goulding
    When I first opened this thread, it was for some help to fix my post. Do you really think I would have asked for help if I thought I had done something wrong? When it became obvious to me that I had (JM), I apologized. And I would have left it that but JM mentioned that he used something similar. I know what that is, and, yes, I wanted him to know about another product. One member said I should have contacted him privately. Yes, I should have done that. My reply was meant for him, not everyone (little did I know at the time that it would get such a large turn out) and, as you may have gathered, or not, I think it’s an important development. One member didn’t seem to know what I was talking about, and on it went.

    I’ve enjoyed getting StickyBobby out of his comfort zone. What a self righteous condescending prick. What happened to Macy’s, Bob? That’s a rhetorical question, Bob.

    Some of you members were helpful and I thank you. I’m a hobbyist and love tripping with music of all kinds. I would welcome a little discourse if you gotta mind to. By all means, email me (promise not to try and “shill” you).
  • 07-13-2007, 04:42 AM
    markw
    Ya blew it, Jim.
    You claimed ignorance of the rules and you were disabused,

    Now, had you simply stopped after post four, you most likely would have maintained some credibility.

    Buy, by the cheap tricks you tried later in this thread, you trashed any possibility of maintaining credibility, at least with some of us long-time members.

    Are you getting any hits from this thread? I think I'll ask a mod to simply remove it, or at least edit out any contact information.

    Would you like that?
  • 07-13-2007, 04:49 AM
    Luvin Da Blues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jim goulding
    (promise not to try and “shill” you).


    and TRY being the Key word here eh Jim

    Lets see some posts on other topics if your legit.
  • 07-13-2007, 05:05 AM
    noddin0ff
    As much as I dislike shills and inversely (perversely?) enjoy the shear pleasure of abusing a wolf in sheep's clothing...at least Jim, is a participating shill. That, in my mind, is a zillion times better than the usual spam and go. Baaaa-d humor aside, perhaps a rough lamb-asting is just the price of admittance to the flock. All we like sheep have gone astray.