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    I really like Shirley's "I Remember Miles" CD.

    Give it a listen-

    http://www.amazon.com/I-Remember-Mil...3750255&sr=1-5

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    Oh I have listened to"I Remember Miles".

    Here are my two favorite Shirley Horn recordings. And they are not her albums, but she really shines on both. If you can, treat yourself to both of these..... These are outstanding CD's.





    Both of these CD's are really outstanding.

    IF you know anything about Golson and Haden, then you know they are truly in that "last of the great ones" still living today.
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    Frenchmon, thanks for the tips, check out this Charlie Hayden disc-

    Charlie Haden - Sophisticated Ladies CD Album
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven View Post
    Frenchmon, thanks for the tips, check out this Charlie Hayden disc-

    Charlie Haden - Sophisticated Ladies CD Album
    Thanks...I have been meaning to get that one. I like all the Quartet West stuff. I think they are very much underrated. And that Ernie Watts is something on that sax...especially to see him live is a real treat.
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    ernie watts has been appearing with kurt elling of late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hifitommy View Post
    ernie watts has been appearing with kurt elling of late.
    I bet thats nice.
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    get on his emailing list and know when he is in your area. i dont know if ernie goes on the road with him though.

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    Looks like the closes he comes to St. Louis is Chicago....a 4 hour drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RGA View Post
    I am in the non fan camp. Technically good but uninvolving - a number of stereo systems are like that I suppose.

    I much prefer someone like Sophie Milman. More soul IMO.

    Sophie Milman - I can't make you love me - YouTube
    COMPLETELY disagree. PB has more soul than 95% of female jazz singers. She actually feels the lyrics. IMO, Ella has great tone, but NO SOUL!

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    Sophie Milman. More soul? not nearly as much as bonnie raitt who put that song on the map for me.
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    tube fan...you want soul? Try some Billy Holiday. Boy you get inside her world and you get soul down in your bones! Oh...and Ella had soul....you just couldn't feel it because you cant feel her generation in which she lived in.
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    Soul is Cassandra Wilson singing "love is blindness" She feels it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon View Post
    tube fan...you want soul? Try some Billy Holiday. Boy you get inside her world and you get soul down in your bones! Oh...and Ella had soul....you just couldn't feel it because you cant feel her generation in which she lived in.
    Billy and Ray had more soul than any other singers IMO. Still don't get Ella.

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    I definitely agree with Cassandra Wilson but I can't agree with Sophie Milman having more soul. She's a nice singer and has a great band, I saw them play here in the Twin Cities.
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    " Still don't get Ella."

    i get that. some people dont identify with many of my favorites. we have inherent differences.
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    Ella was mostly "up beat" in her demeanor and very sweet and kind....but she had pain and sorrow. She was sexually abused and very poor as a child and mocked for her looks. Even as a young adult just breaking into the music scene after winning at the Apollo Theater, was mocked and called an Ugly Duckling by Chick Webb, who latter came to lover her. But she did show emotion and feel her songs. You watch some of her stuff on You tube.....Ella fitzgerald - Mack The Knife High quality - YouTube
    Man she is feeling it! ....And so can I!!!
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    Ella and Etta James rule!
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    etta's later releases are pretty good to say the least. for example-matriarch of the blues---check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven View Post
    Ella and Etta James rule!
    Ella's singing leaves me totally cold. I look for the communication of
    emotion in art. Ella gets an F from me!!!

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    maybe you should listen to adele.
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    Yeah...I think he should as well.
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    I'm coming to the party late here but Patrica is unique and unusual. Her covers are very good and I've really enjoyed her talents. I wouldn't have her every night but when I want to settle down for that kind of music, she is a go to along with several of the mentioned artists in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tube fan View Post
    Ella's singing leaves me totally cold. I look for the communication of
    emotion in art. Ella gets an F from me!!!
    Could it be you miss all the histrionics many singers unnecessarily add to their performances. Those histrionics are why I don't like Patti Labelle that much.

    Ella didn't need that. Those present when she won amateur night certainly wouldn't vote for a singer who didn't project a lot of emotion. You couldn't win anything at the Apollo amateur night competition unless you could communicate emotion.
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    All this talk of souls you might make me religious yet - err nope.

    This is somewhat silly since soul I suspect seems associated with a vocal range half or one octave lower than a Sophie Milman who has an easy breezy and "airy" voice. Unlike the slow methodical deeper voice that Barber and some others possess. Barber comes off calculating to me - same for Krall - the only album I really liked was the worst recorded one This song was from that album the name of which escapes me Diana Krall, departure bay - YouTube

    Besides that problem I can't seem to find songs that both of them sing to be able to make a comparison. The artist may do one cover better than someone else does another cover - I dislike comparisons of covers most of the time - so long as they bring something interesting to the cover I'll probably be on board with it.

    I tried barber again - listened to a bunch of youtubes and I keep having the feeling like I want to fall asleep - it's background music at Starbucks - so whatever supposed Soul she has isn't getting through to me. She sounds like she is forcing "soul" on me and I just don't buy it. To me her music comes off as pretentious.

    But the musicianship is first class

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